TELECOM Digest OnLine - Sorted: Apparent Junk Mail

Apparent Junk Mail

Carl Moore (cmoore@ARL.ARMY.MIL)
Thu, 2 Jun 2005 10:37:01 EDT

Notice the original message has
in the To header, so perhaps someone at your end could check to see
who would have gotten the original message.

Also enclosed in the mailing you are reading are my remarks to the
Secret Service. The usual case in "419" mail:

1. it's OK to see how I would respond to this (because there are no
contents other than "frank" here, all that's possible here is an
email to the address in the From header)
2. NO response by me to this (not even to correct grammar or to ask
that I be removed from the sender's list)(and it's understood
that we don't touch whatever list the following was sent to)

----- Forwarded message # 1:

Date: Thu, 2 Jun 2005
From: Carl Moore <>
Subject: no financial loss -- for your database

Sorry, but this is all I got. I do receive the Telecom digest,
thus apparently explaining the To header. The other system names
look familiar because they appear in other mail I have forwarded
to you in the "419" category.

----- Forwarded message # 1:

Received: from by VIP.ARL.ARMY.MIL id aa389032; 2 Jun 2005 08:50 EDT
Received: by (Postfix)
id C957673CB5; Thu, 2 Jun 2005 08:50:20 -0400 (EDT)
Received: from ( [])
by (Postfix) with ESMTP id E52DA73CB5
for <>; Thu, 2 Jun 2005 08:50:08 -0400 (EDT)
Received: from [] (HELO
by (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 4.1.8)
with ESMTP id 259487930; Thu, 02 Jun 2005 14:50:06 +0200
Received: from [] (account
by (CommuniGate Pro WebUser 4.1.8)
with HTTP id 774438285; Thu, 02 Jun 2005 14:50:06 +0200
From: "frank govery" <>
Subject: URGENT
X-Mailer: CommuniGate Pro WebUser Interface v.4.1.8
Date: Thu, 02 Jun 2005 14:50:06 +0200
Message-ID: <>
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="ISO-8859-1"
X-ARL-MailScanner-Information: Please contact the helpdesk for more information
X-ARL-MailScanner: Found to be clean
X-ARL-MailScanner-SpamCheck: not spam, SpamAssassin (score=3.366, required 5,
X-ARL-MailScanner-SpamScore: sss
Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable


----- End of forwarded messages

----- End of forwarded messages

[TELECOM Digest Editor's Note: Well Carl we know that the apparent
'email address' of '' is in fact
not an email address at all, but a Usenet message ID/serial number,
and volume 23, issue 354, message 10 was from July 23 a year ago.
It was dealing with 'blogs and bloggers and blogging' and had
absolutely nothing to do with the spam _you_ got in email from
'Frank'. Since true email addresses and Usenet newsgroup serial or
identification numbers are constucted exactly the same way and
easily mistaken, one for the other by an inexperienced spammer, so
all we really know is that the Mighty Frank from somewher in South
Africa probably bought a useless mailing list from someone. If anyone
else wishes to parse through the remainder of the header and make
something else of it, be my guest, and I imagine I speak for Carl
as well. Does anyone actually give a rat's behind about what happens
any longer on Usenet? PAT]

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