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Re: Is it Sp*m if They Are Offering to Set You Up as a Sp*mmer?

Steven Lichter (
Sat, 27 Aug 2005 00:32:26 GMT

Hudson Leighton wrote:

> Received the following email today, names and address removed to protect
> the guilty.

> ******

> BulletProof server:

> Fresh IPs
> 1024MB RAM
> P4 CPU
> Dedicated 100M fiber
> Unlimited Data Transfer
> Any software
> Based in China
> US$599.00 for per month

> May use the server for:

> Bulk Hosting
> Direct Mailing

> We also supply Target list according to your
> order and sending out your message for you.

> *****

> [TELECOM Digest Editor's Note: I've been thinking I should write a
> note to those people and ask them how many netters take them up on
> their offer to 'rent their server' for direct mail purposes. If
> they can get $599 per customer/month it would pay me to discontinue
> this Digest and turn my computer totally into a 'bullet proof' direct
> spam -- err, I mean, mail server. Even just one customer per month
> would pay off better for me than this Digest does at $599 each. PAT]

Problem is we know where you live and what you look like. Remember the
guy is Russia!!!!

The only good spammer is a dead one!! Have you hunted one down today?
(c) 2005 I Kill Spammers, Inc. A Rot in Hell Co.

[TELECOM Digest Editor's Note: That you do know about me. I still do
not understand why ICANN does not do a re-alignment of the general
domain naming system, to put things more in line with where they
really are: Suggested TLDs would be '.sex, .scam,' and '.spam' to make
a full transition to the kind of internet Vint Cerf and Esther Dyson
have always dreamed of having. PAT]

Date: Sat, 27 Aug 2005 00:43:06 GMT
From: Steven Lichter <>
Newsgroups: comp.dcom.telecom
Subject: Re: Last Laugh! Turning the Tables on Nigeria's E-Mail Conmen
Message-ID: <>
Organization: I Kill Spammers, Inc. (c) 2005 A Rot in Hell Co.
X-Telecom-Digest: Volume 24, Issue 387, Message 12 of 12
Lines: 62

Michael Quinn wrote:

> This BBC News article about getting back at the senders of "get rich
> quick" scam messages may amuse some Telecom Digest readers. The
> pictures alone are hilarious.

> Regards,
> Mike


> [TELECOM Digest Editor's Note: Thanks for passing this along. The
> pictures are funny. PAT]

The other day on a local TV station; reported that a Hollywood
producer called a friend and said he was being chased by people, it
was also reported that he had just gotten some money from people
involved in one of the 419 scams. That was the last time anyone had
heard from him.

It sounds like it could be pretty dangerous. The other day I got one
and gave a friends work phone number to them, he is with the FBI, I
let him know before I did it. Now to see what happens.

The only good spammer is a dead one!! Have you hunted one down today?
(c) 2005 I Kill Spammers, Inc. A Rot in Hell Co.

[TELECOM Digest Editor's Note: It _is_ a very dangerous area to be in.
The archenemy of all phishers and their phake banks, says rather plainly on their web site that
deterring (through time-wasting emails, etc) phishers and their phony
banks is _not_ a task for the faint hearted. In their forum for users,
the members fall into a few categories including newbie-baiters,
elite- baters and master-baiters, and all 'baiters' (their term for
the now thousands of internet users who play games with the 419
crooks) are asked to try and improve their skills, but _never, never
ever_ provide any real, accurate information about yourself, for good
reason, and always use a throw-away email address when you work at
nuking their web sites, etc. A couple of the real experts (known on
their site as 'master-baiters') have actually convinced a
couple of the Nigerian conmen to _send them money_ instead of the way
the Nigerians had it planned. They have a monthly 'laugh at the 419
phishers day' each month, but they tell everyone to take much care
against getting in 'too deep' with those people. I guess they have
shut down dozens of web sites run by those fools, but the job never
seems to end. They are always looking for new players to both run that
bot thing of theirs which always goes around attacking phisher web
sites 24-7 and the phake banks the phishers set up to 'prove' to you
that they are okay, should you ask for credentials about the 'bank'
holding your lottery money or your late Uncle's (the one killed in the
aeroplane crash leaving no relatives) money. They have various dummy
email accounts set up waiting for a phisher to abuse the 'bait',
(which is what you would be if you wished to play along) and although
you would start as a novice or newbie, the other guys there in the
user forum would teach you how to become a master baiter soon enough,
and maybe get some phisher to send you money in order for your bank
to 'cut a check' as has been done, just a few minutes before they
decided to nuke that particular 419 scammer out of business. PAT]

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