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The Telecom Digest for Tue, 14 Aug 2018
Volume 37 : Issue 191 : "text" format

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Re: I'm looking for information about "Fight For The Future" John Levine
Re: I'm looking for information about "Fight For The Future" Dave Garland
Re: Backup Power for Cox [or other] ISPBob K
RE: Backup Power for COsBob Goudreau
Re: New Jersey gets new area codeJohn Levine
Re: New Jersey gets new area codeNeal McLain
Re: Backup Power for Cox [or other] ISPHAncock4
Re: Reining in UN's little known International Telecommunication UnionMarc Schaefer
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---------------------------------------------------------------------- Message-ID: <20180812125631.3C81620036BA99@ary.local> Date: 12 Aug 2018 08:56:30 -0400 From: "John Levine" <johnl@iecc.com> Subject: Re: I'm looking for information about "Fight For The Future" In article <20180811190847.GA8480@telecom.csail.mit.edu> you write: >I've been getting emails from an organization called "Fight For The >Future," for a while now, and I'd like to know if anyone reading this >knows who funds them and what their agenda is. Their major funders are on their web site. Looks like a bunch of good government types, mainstream foundations, and small to medium Internet companies including Yelp and Giganews/Golden Frog. https://www.fightforthefuture.org/supporters/ ------------------------------ Message-ID: <pkpnce$rtc$1@dont-email.me> Date: 12 Aug 2018 11:31:05 -0500 From: "Dave Garland" <dave.garland@wizinfo.com> Subject: Re: I'm looking for information about "Fight For The Future" On 8/11/2018 2:08 PM, Bill Horne wrote: > I've been getting emails from an organization called "Fight For The > Future," for a while now, and I'd like to know if anyone reading this > knows who funds them and what their agenda is. > > FFTF appears to be trying to prevent the FCC rule change which revokes > Net Neutrality from taking effect. Their arguments, although > hyperbolic, appear well-intentioned, but out of an abundance of > caution, I'd like to know who their backers are. Major funders for one or another of their operations are shown on their website: https://www.fightforthefuture.org/supporters/ Some that I'm familiar with the names are: Ford Foundation, Knight Foundation, Wallace Global Fund, Media Democracy Fund, Shuttleworth Foundation (Ubuntu), Private Internet Access (VPN), Credo (MVNO), Yelp (website), DuckDuckGo (web search), Namecheap (domain registrar), Reddit (website). And a bunch of others that I don't recognize, including several other VPNs. ------------------------------ Message-ID: <720c3273-8f68-3cb3-273b-602775e4ef44@Rochester.RR.com> Date: 10 Aug 2018 14:11:37 -0400 From: "Bob K" <SPAMpot@Rochester.RR.com> Subject: Re: Backup Power for Cox [or other] ISP > ***** Moderator's Note ***** > > As has been pointed out in the past, "UPS" devices are *NOT* intended > to provide power for any longer than it takes to shut the computer > down gracefully, i.e., without losing data. Anything longer than a few > minutes requires a power source, such as a generator, that can run > indefinitely. This isn't really 100% true. I have some cute little UPS things here that are sold for supplying power for network gateways, VoIP phones, and such for a period of time. True, they would not handle long power outages -- but certainly for an hour or two, they are supposed to fill in for when the power company takes a vacation. The ones I have here are made by APC, their model BGE90M, and were on sale for under $20. They are rated at providing 4.5 hours of backup for a 10 watt load, or 1.5 hours with a 20 watt load. I am sure there the same type of creature available from other manufacturers, also. ...Bob K ------------------------------ Message-ID: <002a01d43286$03b3d2b0$0b1b7810$@nc.rr.com> Date: 12 Aug 2018 17:47:03 -0400 From: "Bob Goudreau" <BobGoudreau@nc.rr.com> Subject: RE: Backup Power for COs In Message-ID: <959ce13a-0266-4c6a-1ded-2bf26935907e@ieee.org>, Eric Tappert <tappert@ieee.org> wrote: > Originally telephones had internal batteries, either Dry Cells or > Lead Acid batteries. The later [sic] gave rise to the phase "high > and dry" ... That's a nice "just so" story, but it doesn't hold up. The phrase "high and dry" has nautical origins and was already in use in the 1700s, long before dry cells, lead acid batteries or telephones were invented in the latter half of next century. See ... https://www.phrases.org.uk/meanings/high-and-dry.html for an example from 1796. Bob Goudreau Cary, NC ------------------------------ Message-ID: <20180813030159.901CD20036D20A@ary.qy> Date: 12 Aug 2018 23:01:59 -0400 From: "John Levine" <johnl@iecc.com> Subject: Re: New Jersey gets new area code In article <BYAPR13MB2232B81BEC622BB653EE437091260@BYAPR13MB2232.namprd13.prod.outlook.com> you write: >In particular, I am interested in the status of 406. NANPA has reports on their web site at www.nanpa.com. At this point they estimate that 406 will fill up in the 3rd quarter of 2029. R's, John P.S.: perhaps you could consider getting a touch tone phone between now and then. ------------------------------ Message-ID: <1f46fe5d04f6bdd77a262acff31281c7.squirrel@email.fatcow.com> Date: 13 Aug 2018 17:42:52 -0500 From: "Neal McLain" <nmclain.remove-this@and-this-too.annsgarden.com> Subject: Re: New Jersey gets new area code Message-ID: <BYAPR13MB2232B81BEC622BB653EE437091260@BYAPR13MB2232.namprd13.prod.outlook.com On 8 Aug 2018 23:19:55 Naveen Albert <wirelessaction@outlook.com> wrote: > For Neil (sic) McLain: > Is there to find out what NPAs are "at risk" for overlays? > In particular, I am interested in the status of 406. See "LincMad's New Area Code Dates" page: https://www.lincmad.com/areacode.html Area code 406 is not listed implying that it is not in jeopardy. Wikipedia doesn't mention any relief activity in 406. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Area_code_406 Neal McLain Brazoria, Texas ------------------------------ Message-ID: <d2668573-7446-4024-9015-c849afeed564@googlegroups.com> Date: 10 Aug 2018 10:18:27 -0700 From: HAncock4 <withheld@invalid.telecom-digest.org> Subject: Re: Backup Power for Cox [or other] ISP On Thursday, August 9, 2018 at 5:56:13 PM UTC-4, Tom Horne wrote: > UPS assemblies come in a huge range of capabilities, and that includes > the run time supported by the batteries used. I worked on one at the > US Government Printing Office (GPO): it was a conversion of the > gigantic wet cells in the basement from supplying nothing but > emergency lighting to supplying a huge UPS system that would keep the > printing presses' controllers from forgetting what they were doing > when power was lost. That would prevent very large amounts of waste > caused by starting large print jobs over from scratch. > > I also worked on a UPS system that included a 20 foot diameter > flywheel and a forward only clutch. The electric motor which turned > that flywheel was a genuine monster. The 2 parallel back up > generators were designed to come up to full operating voltage and > current in 2 minutes. At full designed load that flywheel would not > let the power fall more than 0.50 Hertz out from 60.0 Hertz for 5 > minutes. We often joked that if anything ever happened to that set of > bearings that people 25 miles away might be crushed. When you are > supplying computer arrays which bill communications satellite usage > time you do not allow the power to falter. Now that was a UPS! Here are some newspaper images (a little muddy) of telephone company battery/generators from the past. Catalina 1954 emergency power https://books.google.com/books?id=wJ9kAAAAIBAJ&lpg=PA6&dq=telephone%20%22central%20office%22%20batteries&pg=PA6#v=onepage&q&f=false Prescott AZ 1959 battery bank (right side, among various telephone articles) https://books.google.com/books?id=vrcKAAAAIBAJ&lpg=PA6&dq=telephone%20%22central%20office%22%20batteries&pg=PA6#v=onepage&q&f=false Bowling Green KY 1973 (right side) photo montage, checking voltage https://books.google.com/books?id=gSQqAAAAIBAJ&lpg=PA59&dq=telephone%20%22central%20office%22%20batteries&pg=PA59#v=onepage&q&f=false ------------------------------ Message-ID: <20180812090255.GA17409@alphanet.ch> Date: Sun, 12 Aug 2018 11:02:55 +0200 From: Marc SCHAEFER <schaefer@remove-this.alphanet.ch> Subject: Re: Reining in UN's little known International Telecommunication Union Funnily, seen from Europe, ITU-T seems very much important, and it seems important enough that the US puts a candidate forward: In article <20180811002910.GA5651@telecom.csail.mit.edu> you wrote: > So what can be done to correct course and allow the organization to > remain viable for the future? One of the paragraph of the given link's content reads: To complement this, the United States has put forth an eminently qualified and capable candidate [ ... ] Failure to take her candidacy seriously and give her all due respect and consideration would be a grave mistake for the ITU member states. It will further hasten those within the United States who wish to withdraw from the organization or limit our financial obligations. Do you think that that kind of semi-menace coming from a country whose current president has shown that he can go away from any treaty, agreement or resolution he wants when he wants will work very well ? ------------------------------ ********************************************* End of telecom Digest Tue, 14 Aug 2018

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