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The Telecom Digest for Jan 17, 2015
Volume 34 : Issue 10 : "text" Format
Messages in this Issue:
Re: The Town Without Wi-Fi (tlvp)
Re: The Town Without Wi-Fi (Michael D. Sullivan)
Re: The Town Without Wi-Fi (Barry Margolin)
Re: The Town Without Wi-Fi (Fred Goldstein)
From the AT&T Archives "The Hello Machine," 1974 (Gary)

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Date: Thu, 15 Jan 2015 01:00:08 -0500 From: tlvp <mPiOsUcB.EtLlLvEp@att.net> To: telecomdigestsubmissions.remove-this@and-this-too.telecom-digest.org. Subject: Re: The Town Without Wi-Fi Message-ID: <qh7au1l9zch2$.692kl2mncce6.dlg@40tude.net> On Wed, 14 Jan 2015 17:14:51 -0500, Bill Horne wrote: > ... I'm not qualified to say whether "electrosensitives" can actually feel > the energy coming from a wi-fi transmitter, ... Nor am I. I can say, though, that a few decades ago, when my hearing was keener than it is today, I could often tell which motel rooms were occupied by hearing their television set's horizontal sweep oscillator's uniquely high-pitched squeal from outside their locked entrance doors. Utterly mystified my spouse of the time, who couldn't hear that squeal at all, even while seated directly in front of a TV. So I'd rather give the "electrosensitives" the benefit of the doubt :-) . Cheers, -- tlvp -- Avant de repondre, jeter la poubelle, SVP.
Date: Thu, 15 Jan 2015 07:08:36 -0500 From: "Michael D. Sullivan" <mds@camsul.com> To: telecomdigestsubmissions.remove-this@and-this-too.telecom-digest.org. Subject: Re: The Town Without Wi-Fi Message-ID: <CA+K-LfaoX9QpPR_N0XOqV07oqGMJTZXTseF9=74LbKOHqvb99w@mail.gmail.com> On 14 Jan 2015 17:14:51 -0500, Bill Horne wrote: >I think the residents of Green Bank have the best of both worlds. >They still have wired phones, and (I assume) access to DSL, so I doubt >they are as cut off as the report makes them out to be. As for not >having cellular service, think about it: wouldn't you like to know >that once you left work, your time was all your own? > >I envy them. I don't know whether residents of Green Bank have access to DSL, and would not assume that they do. DSL requires relatively short distances between the CO and the customer location, and accordingly is not available in many rural areas. While Frontier apparently offers DSL in some parts of the area, satellite providers are also common, suggesting that wireline access is far from universal. https://www.inmyarea.com/internet/24944/providers -- Michael D. Sullivan Bethesda, MD
Date: Wed, 14 Jan 2015 17:56:25 -0500 From: Barry Margolin <barmar@alum.mit.edu> To: telecomdigestsubmissions.remove-this@and-this-too.telecom-digest.org. Subject: Re: The Town Without Wi-Fi Message-ID: <barmar-3497A5.17562514012015@88-209-239-213.giganet.hu> In article <20150114221451.GA20888@telecom.csail.mit.edu>, Bill Horne <bill@horneQRM.net> wrote: > I think the residents of Green Bank have the best of both worlds. > They still have wired phones, and (I assume) access to DSL, so I doubt > they are as cut off as the report makes them out to be. As for not But they can only use wired computers. No tablets, for instance, so they're stuck using the computer at a particular location in the home. They can't take a laptop or tablet to Starbucks, for instance. > having cellular service, think about it: wouldn't you like to know > that once you left work, your time was all your own? Having a cell phone doesn't automatically mean that your work is allowed to call you at all hours. That's a function of your job duties, not your high tech equipment. Consider this: you could have a cell phone, but NOT give the number to your office. Wouldn't you like to know that if your car breaks down, you can call a tow truck? -- Barry Margolin, barmar@alum.mit.edu Arlington, MA *** PLEASE post questions in newsgroups, not directly to me ***
Date: Wed, 14 Jan 2015 19:51:00 -0500 From: Fred Goldstein <fg_es@ionaryQRM.com> To: telecomdigestsubmissions.remove-this@and-this-too.telecom-digest.org. Subject: Re: The Town Without Wi-Fi Message-ID: <m972sl$4kt$1@dont-email.me> On 1/13/2015 10:17 AM, Pete Cresswell wrote: > Per Monty Solomon: >> >> >> http://www.washingtonian.com/articles/people/the-town-without-wi-fi/ >> > > I have to wonder whether electrosensivity is a binary condition or it's > just that electrosensitives are so sensitive that they are consciously > aware of the stress - and the rest of us are still affected, but not > enough to feel it. > I'd like to see a scientifically-valid blind test on these self-proclaimed electrosensitives. Put them in a room and turn on and off various frequencies and power levels, not telling them when. Let them tell when it's on or off. Instead we hear anecdotes that seem terribly psychosomatic. WiFi is mostly very low power. Cellular phones are weak but close to the body. Broadcast transmitters put out real power.
Date: Thu, 15 Jan 2015 15:46:11 -0500 From: Gary <bogus-email@hotmail.com> To: telecomdigestsubmissions.remove-this@and-this-too.telecom-digest.org. Subject: From the AT&T Archives "The Hello Machine," 1974 Message-ID: <m998u5$mah$1@dont-email.me> Watch the manufacturing, installation, testing and use of an "ESS Mainframe," (a.k.a. a 1ESS) in this 1974 "wordless poem" from the AT&T Archives. http://youtu.be/8uMbpaFp3i4 Enjoy!

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