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The Telecom Digest for Aug 24, 2014
Volume 33 : Issue 142 : "text" Format
Messages in this Issue:
Your cellphone is killing you: What people don't want you to know about electromagnetic fields (Monty Solomon)
Re: Your cellphone is killing you ... (Thad Floryan)
Re: This has got to stop (Fred Goldstein)
Re: This has got to stop (Pete Cresswell)
Re: This has got to stop (John Levine)
Android Phones Hit by 'Ransomware' ? (Monty Solomon)

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Date: Sat, 23 Aug 2014 00:32:06 -0400 From: Monty Solomon <monty@roscom.com> To: telecomdigestsubmissions.remove-this@and-this-too.telecom-digest.org. Subject: Your cellphone is killing you: What people don't want you to know about electromagnetic fields Message-ID: <339CD473-544F-405F-9423-7114D8216707@roscom.com> Your cellphone is killing you: What people don't want you to know about electromagnetic fields MARTIN BLANK | April 12, 2014 http://www.salon.com/2014/04/12/your_cellphone_is_killing_you_what_people_ dont_want_you_to_know_about_electromagnetic_fields/ -or- http://goo.gl/kB0sCn
Date: Sat, 23 Aug 2014 21:26:22 -0700 From: Thad Floryan <thad@thadlabs.com> To: telecomdigestsubmissions.remove-this@and-this-too.telecom-digest.org. Subject: Re: Your cellphone is killing you ... Message-ID: <53F9696E.5060909@thadlabs.com> On 8/22/2014 9:32 PM, Monty Solomon wrote: > Your cellphone is killing you: What people don't want you to know > about electromagnetic fields > > MARTIN BLANK | April 12, 2014 > > > > http://www.salon.com/2014/04/12/your_cellphone_is_killing_you_what_people_ > dont_want_you_to_know_about_electromagnetic_fields/ > > -or- > > http://goo.gl/kB0sCn > Earlier this year, 15 April 2014, I read this article on SFGate which caught my eye because I live in Los Altos CA: Cell-phones' link to health problems debated - SFGate http://www.sfgate.com/health/article/Cell-phones-link-to-health-problems-debated-5091712.php which begins: " Every weekday morning, Bret Bocook sits in a cozy Starbucks in " downtown Los Altos. He sips coffee and reads the paper. But " mostly, he watches people as they chat on their cell phones. " " Then he walks over to deliver a message. " " "I was observing you on your cell phone," Bocook told a woman " after she wrapped up a lengthy call on a recent morning. "I used " a cell phone and I got a brain tumor." " " Startled, the woman politely listened. Bocook tends to command " attention, and not just because he has the tall, broad build of a " former competitive rower. The 49-year-old Los Altos man limps " with a cane, the result of a surgery that removed a malignant " brain tumor about four years ago but left him with shaky motor " skills. " " His right temple is indented where the tumor had once been. It's " also, he says, where he held his cell phone when he was a real " estate agent, racking up an estimated 1 million minutes over two " decades as he talked to clients. " " Bocook is now among a growing number of people who believe beyond " doubt that cell phones are a life-threatening health hazard. Some " medical experts have also begun to raise concerns about the " devices. " [...] I believe the statements in the above Salon article given the additional articles I found Googing using this bracketed search term based on the above SFgate article: [ guy who used cellphone has cancer where he held cellphone to his head ] which found the following among many other results: Fact or Fiction?: Cell Phones Can Cause Brain Cancer ... http://www.scientificamerican.com/article/fact-or-fiction-cell-phones-can-cause-brain-cancer/ Cell Phone Gave Man a Tumor, According to Major Court ... http://articles.mercola.com/sites/articles/archive/2012/11/07/heavy-cell-phone-use.aspx Are Cell Phones Causing Cancer? - EMF-Health.com Articles http://www.emf-health.com/articles-cellphones-cancer.htm Cell phone radiation: Harmless or health risk? - CNET http://www.cnet.com/news/cell-phone-radiation-harmless-or-health-risk/ Cell phones, Cancer and Brain Tumors - EHSO.com http://www.ehso.com/ehshome/cellphonecancer.php Can Cell Phones Harm Our Health? | Cancer Prevention ... http://www.stopcancerfund.org/p-brain-cancer/can-cell-phones-harm-our-health-2/ Keep mobile phones, tablets or laptops away from your body http://peperperspective.com/2013/04/27/keep-mobile-phones-tablets-or-laptops-away-from-your-body-wireless-devices-may-cause-harm/ Mobile phone safety. The real truth about the hazards ... http://www.psrast.org/mobileng/mobilstarteng.htm Guys, I Have Brain Tumors - HelloGiggles http://hellogiggles.com/guys-i-have-brain-tumors And then there's this interesting article regarding folks who have appeared on the Larry King show discussing cell phones and cancer: http://boonsrid.files.wordpress.com/2010/02/cell-phone-story.pdf with these extracted tidbits: [...] Siegal Sadetzki, a physician and epidemiologist at Sheba Medical Center and Tel Aviv University in Israel, published her results ahead of the final report of the Interphone study. Like Hardell, Sadetzki found a side-of-the-head correlation, with heavy phone users facing a 50 percent higher risk for developing a salivary gland tumor on the side where the phone was placed. "I don't see my results as conclusive but as a red light to be careful," Sadetzki says. "It's premature to make conclusions; it takes 20 to 40 years for cancer to develop." "We don't know the long-term risk of heating up your brain in those areas over 20 to 30 years," says Keith Black, neurosurgery department chairman at Cedars-Sinai Medical Center in Los Angeles. "All these studies have flaws." [...] He suggested that cell phones could have far broader health ramifications than smoking cigarettes, due in part to the fact that nearly three billion people talk on cell phones and only one billion smoke. [...] Larry King brought two oncologists and a neurosurgeon back to his show in July to address the subject. One of them, Keith Black, later said in a phone interview that "even if cell phones don't cause cancer, microwave energy heats up the tissue." [...] Reflect upon what a microwave oven does to food and how warm both a cellphone and the side of the head become after a long cellphone call. That's one of the reasons I installed Ooma VoIP in April 2014 as my home phone after abandoning landlines in 2002 becoming cellphone-only and why I now seldom use my cellphone. Thad
Date: Fri, 22 Aug 2014 23:52:24 -0400 From: Fred Goldstein <fg_es@ionaryQRM.calm> To: telecomdigestsubmissions.remove-this@and-this-too.telecom-digest.org. Subject: Re: This has got to stop Message-ID: <lt9356$9ba$1@dont-email.me> On 8/22/2014 12:13 AM, David Scheidt wrote: > Fred Goldstein <fg_es@ionaryqrm.calm> wrote: ... > Verizon, comcast, et al, have internal networks that are capable of > transporting the amount of data they're selling to their customers. > They have made that information available publically, sometimes in a > weird effort to blame netflix. In some places, there may be busy hour > congestion, but there's not much of it, and it's not a real problem > for most customers. Netflix is quite willing to pay the costs of > getting the bits to the edge of Verizon network, Verizon just wants to > get paid twice to deliver them. > > :This only applies to large providers. I know of many smaller ISPs who > :couldn't get Netflix into their own networks on a dare or via a bribe. > :And those are the ones with the highest upstream costs. > > Totally false. Netflix is willing to peer with anyone who meets > certain technical requirements, and who is located in one of the > (large number) of places they're located in. If you don't meet the > technical requirements, your not a real network, and you probably > aren't peering with anyone. It's very much in netflix's (and other > people who deliver big streams of data to end customers) interest to > peer with anyone who asks. > "The places they're" ... already ... "located in"? That does a lot of good (not) for rural providers, who are the ones that can't get Netflix except via backbone. For these ISPs, many of whom depend on fixed wireless, backbone connections are outrageously expensive due to middle mile -- the link from their area to a backbone node -- costs. The middle mile often has to come from the ILEC, at outrageous rates, since there isn't much competition to rural areas, unless the stimulus build (BTOP) added some. Yet the NN crowd proposes rules that would require wireless network operators in Wyoming or Maine or rural upstate NY to pay for the capacity to carry however much TV their subscribers might want to watch. You can denigrate them as "not real networks" but they're the only Internet access their customers have. For TV, they at least have satellite, but that's lousy for Internet. It's not the simple cases like Verizon FiOS that should determine the rules, it's the tough ones. ***** Moderator's Note ***** Slightly revised to clarify a quote Bill Horne Moderator
Date: Sat, 23 Aug 2014 17:51:24 -0400 From: Pete Cresswell <PeteCress@invalid.telecom-digest.org> To: telecomdigestsubmissions.remove-this@and-this-too.telecom-digest.org. Subject: Re: This has got to stop Message-ID: <l33iv99bokrflkacvfp24iqsc38c7i2kij@4ax.com> Per Fred Goldstein: > Yet the NN crowd proposes rules that would require wireless network > operators in Wyoming or Maine or rural upstate NY to pay for the > capacity to carry however much TV their subscribers might want to > watch. You can denigrate them as "not real networks" but they're > the only Internet access their customers have. For TV, they at > least have satellite, but that's lousy for Internet. It's not the > simple cases like Verizon FiOS that should determine the rules, it's > the tough ones. Wouldn't the only diff be that, with NN, they would need to explicitly bill the user? i.e. set up plans similar to cell phone data plans where the users who use more pay more... and maybe expanded to also account for bandwidth used? -- Pete Cresswell
Date: 24 Aug 2014 03:16:35 -0000 From: "John Levine" <johnl@iecc.com> To: telecomdigestsubmissions.remove-this@and-this-too.telecom-digest.org. Subject: Re: This has got to stop Message-ID: <20140824031635.86224.qmail@joyce.lan> In article <l33iv99bokrflkacvfp24iqsc38c7i2kij@4ax.com> you write: >Per Fred Goldstein: >> Yet the NN crowd proposes rules that would require wireless network >> operators in Wyoming or Maine or rural upstate NY to pay for the >> capacity to carry however much TV their subscribers might ... > Wouldn't the only diff be that, with NN, they would need to > explicitly bill the user? i.e. set up plans similar to cell phone > data plans where the users who use more pay more... and maybe > expanded to also account for bandwidth used? That assumes the bandwidth is there. Wireless systems are not like fiber systems. With fiber, you have practically unlimited internal bandwidth, while with rural wireless, adding capacity costs real money. Having participated in a local project to find money to build out fixed wireless to the hilly rural parts of the county not covered by the urban cable systems, I can say that it is very unlikely that the customers would be willing to pay the real costs for the amount of bandwidth they'd use, and even so, a couple of high bandwidth users could suck up all the bandwidth in their part of the network and lock everyone else out. R's, John
Date: Sat, 23 Aug 2014 20:57:06 -0400 From: Monty Solomon <monty@roscom.com> To: telecomdigestsubmissions.remove-this@and-this-too.telecom-digest.org. Subject: Android Phones Hit by 'Ransomware' ? Message-ID: <33B12DCA-014E-45BC-8E34-2D37ED60251B@roscom.com> Android Phones Hit by 'Ransomware'? Hackers have figured out how to lock people out of their Android devices and demand money in exchange for letting them back in. http://bits.blogs.nytimes.com/2014/08/22/android-phones-hit-by-ransomware/ ***** Moderator's Note ***** The nytimes site sometimes demands that people subscribe to read articles. Bill Horne Moderator

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