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The Telecom Digest for April 23, 2013
Volume 32 : Issue 87 : "text" Format
Messages in this Issue:
Timeline of Provo UT fiber network before Google, and a Google Gotcha (Thad Floryan)
Any opinions about xLink BT? (Julian Thomas)
Re: Do not mention his name (Jim Bennett)
Apple Finally Reveals How Long Siri Keeps Your Data (Monty Solomon)
"Fiber-backed" - mean anything specific, or marketing buzz? (Matt Simpson)

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Date: Sun, 21 Apr 2013 13:31:58 -0700 From: Thad Floryan <thad@thadlabs.com> To: telecomdigestmoderator.remove-this@and-this-too.telecom-digest.org. Subject: Timeline of Provo UT fiber network before Google, and a Google Gotcha Message-ID: <51744CBE.4040809@thadlabs.com> As many of you may know, Google has been offering to provide Gigabit Internet services with Austin TX being the second city to be so provisioned and Provo UT the third. Provo already had a failing fiber system (management and technical issues) that Google recently acquired. I was curious about Provo's failure and found this article showing the timeline of Provo's iProvo fiber network: http://www.heraldextra.com/news/local/central/provo/the-iprovo-timeline/article_92b618c2-3479-5125-bb89-96cd1e33b269.html I've copy'n'pasted the short timeline below. There's also an interesting 'Google Gotcha' for Provo: Google promised free Internet to every home but it never said anything about businesses. Whoops! A long article about that datelined today is here: http://www.heraldextra.com/news/local/central/provo/google-bringing--gig-internet-to-your-home-but-not/article_b0568f40-bacc-593f-ba95-5ecaa01945e0.html And here's Provo's fiber network timeline: 1998 -- The city began investigating a telecom project. November 2003 -- The Municipal Council voted to move it forward. January 2004 -- The council approved a $39.5 million bond for iProvo. October 2004 -- iProvo available for subscriptions. Early 2005 -- Fiber built out in Grandview neighborhood, other areas. July 2005 -- HomeNet, the first service provider, bails on iProvo; Mstar and Veracity take over. HomeNet later goes bankrupt. March 2006 -- Provo loans itself $980,000 to make the first bond payment on iProvo. 2006 -- Subscribers continue to grow, although not at the hoped-for rate. June 2007 -- Provo allocates $1.2 million in sales tax revenue for bond, while projecting the system will not be self-sustaining until 2011. September 2007 -- iProvo hits 10,000 subscribers. January 2008 --The state auditor began an investigation into how much money iProvo's providers owe the city. May 2008: Provo City sells iProvo to Broadweave for $40.6 million; city pays $2.6 million in sale costs. April 2009: Broadweave scales back on marketing, citing prohibitive costs of setting up new customers. August 2009: Broadweave and Veracity merge, ask for the city to take over some of the bond payment for 18 months. July 2011: Provo City prepares to take back the network from Veracity, which could not make enough revenue to make the bond payments. September 2011: Provo adds surcharge to every utility ratepayer's bill to pay off iProvo bond. City begins shopping the network. April 2013: Google Fiber announces takeover of the network.
Date: Sat, 20 Apr 2013 13:20:36 -0400 From: Julian Thomas <jt@jt-mj.net> To: telecomdigestmoderator.remove-this@and-this-too.telecom-digest.org. Subject: Any opinions about xLink BT? Message-ID: <CB1974EB-5654-476E-95BC-C29E87161841@jt-mj.net> The good, the bad, and the ugly. This is a device that connects your cell phones to the wired phones (including cordless base stations) in your home. search amazon or elsewhere for xlink bt thanks -- Julian Thomas jt@jt-mj.net http://jt-mj.net
Date: Mon, 22 Apr 2013 10:48:17 -0400 From: ajbcommconsulting@frontier.com (Jim Bennett) To: telecomdigestmoderator.remove-this@and-this-too.telecom-digest.org. Subject: Re: Do not mention his name Message-ID: <51754DB1.8080302@frontier.com> On 2013-04-20 02:59, Mark Kaminsky wrote: > On Thu, 18 Apr 2013 09:33:20 -0400, Bill Horne wrote: > >> Forget him. He deserves no less. > > There was a really good science fiction story a few years ago (sorry > that I cannot supply a citation, but memory says - for whatever that's > worth - that it was in Analog magazine), where someone found a gateway > to an alternate earth populated by highly civilized Neanderthals. In > their culture (among some other very interesting differences from > ours), those convicted of a serious crime AND THEIR ENTIRE FAMILIES > lost their names (I don't even think that the banned names became > vulgar curses, though that may have been a result which just didn't > fit into the story). > > The entire family had to choose some other name (with approval from > the record keepers who tracked all the banned names). It led to some > incredible family pressure to behave well (and of course, for richer > families, there was some incredible pressure to pervert justice to > prevent a conviction)! > > For my part, I would very much like to see that punishment become the > law here! Of course, there are lots of things I would love to change > - the world would be very different if I were in charge. I just don't > know if it would be any better. > > Mark > > I used to think it would be nice to be dictator, with enough power to right ALL of the wrongs that exist in society. Then I realized that it would be a messy, messy job. And pointless. Next on my reading list is George Carlin's "Last Words." Shortly before he passed, I heard an interview with him from way back. The NPR lady asked him why he felt the need to use so much profanity, and he replied that it was impossible for him to comment on the world around him without it. I know how he felt. And, despite the news media orgy going on right now, I will be following Bill's advice to the letter. I have not, and will not, speak, write, tap, or even think the name of <expletive deleted>. Jim Bennett =================================================================== The truth will set you free. But not until it is finished with you.
Date: Mon, 22 Apr 2013 01:42:18 -0400 From: Monty Solomon <monty@roscom.com> To: telecomdigestmoderator.remove-this@and-this-too.telecom-digest.org. Subject: Apple Finally Reveals How Long Siri Keeps Your Data Message-ID: <p06240811cd9a7dcc4340@[]> Apple Finally Reveals How Long Siri Keeps Your Data BY ROBERT MCMILLAN 04.19.13 All of those questions, messages, and stern commands that people have been whispering to Siri are stored on Apple servers for up to two years, Wired can now report. Yesterday, we raised concerns about some fuzzy disclosures in Siri's privacy policy. After our story ran, Apple spokeswoman Trudy Muller called to explain Apple's policy, something privacy advocates have asking for. This is the first time that Apple has said how long it's keeping Siri data, but according to Nicole Ozer, the American Civil Liberties Union lawyer who first brought these Siri privacy questions to our attention, there's still more that Apple could do. ... http://www.wired.com/wiredenterprise/2013/04/siri-two-years/ Siri Remembers Your Secrets, But for How Long? http://www.wired.com/wiredenterprise/2013/04/siri-privacy/
Date: Mon, 22 Apr 2013 13:00:08 -0400 From: Matt Simpson <net-news69@jmatt.net> To: telecomdigestmoderator.remove-this@and-this-too.telecom-digest.org. Subject: "Fiber-backed" - mean anything specific, or marketing buzz? Message-ID: <net-news69-24413A.13000822042013@news.eternal-september.org> Windstream, the local telco in this area, has just started running ads about their new "fiber-backed" internet service: We've just built 100% fiber-backed high speed internet in Lexington After one of the largest local network upgrades in recent company history, Windstream¹s High-Speed Internet service in Lexington is now 100% backed by fiber technology. What does fiber tech mean for me? "Fiber-backed" simply means a reliable high speed internet connection is now closer to you than ever before. Fiber technology sends light pulsing at ultra high speeds over glass fiber strands that can transmit high-quality and massive amounts of information over longer distances. Our Lexington network now fully supports this technology, and the result is an enhanced network that, even during the heaviest online traffic, provides a fast, uninterrupted connection. I'm pretty sure their DSL customers still have copper running to their homes. They may have added more fiber somewhere in their backbone. "Closer to you than ever before" might mean they've run fiber to the neighborhoods. Considering that almost any internet service is probably going to involve some fiber somewhere, when is it appropriate to call a service "fiber-backed"? And how much more fiber do you need to be "100% fiber-backed"? Does this statement mean anything specific? Or just that they've buried some more fiber?
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