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The Telecom Digest for March 22, 2013
Volume 32 : Issue 68 : "text" Format
Messages in this Issue:
Re: Verizon's Latest Plan For Cable Fees Could Lower Your Cable Bill -- Eventually (Fred Atkinson)
More Extensions and Lightning Protection (Fred Atkinson)
Re: More Extensions and Lightning Protection (John Levine)
Re: More Extensions and Lightning Protection (Dave Garland)
Re: More Extensions and Lightning Protection (Retired)
Re: More Extensions and Lightning Protection (Bob)
Verizon switching building remade into data center (HAncock4)
Re: Verizon's Latest Plan For Cable Fees Could Lower Your Cable Bill -- Eventually (Garrett Wollman)

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Date: Wed, 20 Mar 2013 00:39:21 -0600 From: Fred Atkinson <fatkinson.remove-this@and-this-too.mishmash.com> To: telecomdigestmoderator.remove-this@and-this-too.telecom-digest.org. Subject: Re: Verizon's Latest Plan For Cable Fees Could Lower Your Cable Bill -- Eventually Message-ID: <86D402F8-72BC-457D-8B40-73E07A00ABD1@mishmash.com> On Mar 19, 2013, at 10:26 PM, Neal McLain <nmclain@annsgarden.com> wrote: > > Bill Horne <bill@horneQRM.net wrote: > >> Verizon's Latest Plan For Cable Fees Could Lower Your Cable Bill -- Eventually >> >> By Alexis Kleinman >> >> What if, instead of paying for all of the hundreds of channels that >> your cable provider offers when you sign up, you could choose exactly >> which ones you want? That's definitely a dream of most cable >> subscribers, riled by ever-high fees. And while Verizon isn't ready to >> start offering a-la-carte channels, a new plan of theirs, reported in >> The Wall Street Journal, could take us one step closer to making that >> dream a reality. > > > http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/03/18/verizon-cable-fees_n_2901271.html > > > Good luck with that. I worked in the retail end of CATV industry for > 25 years and I've been writing about it for another dozen years since > I retired. "The dream of most cable subscribers" is also the dream of > many CATV retailers. > > Retailers are companies that sell video services to end consumers; > e.g., franchised cable TV companies, non-franchised "private cable" > companies, telephone companies (Verizon FiOS, AT&T U-Verse), and > satellite TV companies (DirecTV and Dish Network). > > Programmers are companies that produce video programming and provide > it to retailers. Programmers fall into three categories: - Television > broadcast stations. - PEG (Public Access, Educational Access, > Government Access) channels. - Non-broadcast channels. > > In any discussion of a-la-carte, the programmers hold the winning > hand: > > - Broadcast station licensees have a legal right to force retailers to > carry their signals on the basic tier. > > - Broadcast licensees have federally-mandated geographic markets > ("Designated Market Area" or DMA). In any other industry, this > arrangement would be called a "geographic monopoly." In the > upside-down world of television broadcasting, it's called "consumer > protection." > > - CATV franchising authorities have a legal right to force retailers > to carry PEG channels on the basic tier. > > - Any programmer that owns non-broadcast programming and a broadcast > station licensee has a legal right to force retailers to carry the > non-broadcast programming on the basic tier as a condition for > granting retransmission consent for the broadcast signal. > > As I've noted before in this space, if Verizon or any other retailer > wants to offer programming a-la-carte, it has to start by getting > Congress to repeal the grotesquely misnamed "Cable Television Consumer > Protection and Competition Act of 1992" and companion legislation > governing satellite retailers. > > All that said, I have some doubt that a-la-carte would actually lower > retail prices anyway. My narrative about that is at: > > > http://theoldcatvequipmentmuseum.org/320/321/index.html > This is probably a diversion. I've been using a box called Roku (www.roku.com) which allows me to take video programs over the Internet. Aside from Fox News, there isn't anything on cable which I particularly care to watch. But the Roku box gives me plenty that I enjoy. Though I haven't counted them, they claim over seven hundred channels. And it is a one time fee versus monthly payments. Many of the services are free. Some (like Netflix) you pay a small monthly fee (not to Roku). But as I get unlimited Internet from Roku for a mere eight dollars per month, it is a lot cheaper than paying for a lot of cable channels I never use. In fact, I decided that what I was paying the cable companies [just so I could watch Fox News] wasn't cost efficient. And I could listen to them on my XM radio. So I called our cable company and asked them what the difference in my bill would be if I returned the cable box and kept only the high speed Internet. They freaked when I asked them that. They gave me a special two year deal that saves me forty dollars per month for the first year and twenty a month for the second year so I would not cancel the cable portion of my service. I can cancel at any time with what I consider to be a reasonable fee for early cancellation. And as I am in the process of purchasing a new home, I can take the deal with me when I move. Another solution by the free market. Fred
Date: Wed, 20 Mar 2013 13:34:26 -0600 From: Fred Atkinson <fatkinson.remove-this@and-this-too.mishmash.com> To: telecomdigestmoderator.remove-this@and-this-too.telecom-digest.org. Subject: More Extensions and Lightning Protection Message-ID: <20130320193427.4A61C5EF9AC5D@gateway11.websitewelcome.com> Folks, I'm on my way to closing on a house. I have a Linksys VOIP terminal adapter to support my phones. Though it will support two lines, I'm only using one at the present time. Linksys says the maximum number of extensions on one line is two. Since I'm moving into a three bedroom house with a large living area, a garage, and a workshop out back, I am likely going to want to support more than two extension phones on one line. Does anyone know of a device that will plug into the RJ11 jack of my ATA and then providesupport for five lines or more (so I can connect up to five extensions)? Also, I plan to run wire from the house to the workshop out back. I'll need some form of lightning protector. I've struck out with Mike Sandman. So I thought the rest of you might have some suggestions. Regards, Fred
Date: Thu, 21 Mar 2013 18:42:57 +0000 (UTC) From: John Levine <johnl@iecc.com> To: telecomdigestmoderator.remove-this@and-this-too.telecom-digest.org. Subject: Re: More Extensions and Lightning Protection Message-ID: <kifkbh$7fd$1@leila.iecc.com> > Linksys says the maximum number of extensions on one line is > two. Linksys is being very conservative. Three phones will probably work fine, particularly if they are modern phones with electronic ringers. -- Regards, John Levine, johnl@iecc.com, Primary Perpetrator of "The Internet for Dummies", Please consider the environment before reading this e-mail. http://jl.ly
Date: Thu, 21 Mar 2013 14:54:01 -0500 From: Dave Garland <dave.garland@wizinfo.com> To: telecomdigestmoderator.remove-this@and-this-too.telecom-digest.org. Subject: Re: More Extensions and Lightning Protection Message-ID: <kifodf$26a$1@dont-email.me> On 3/20/2013 2:34 PM, Fred Atkinson wrote: > I have a Linksys VOIP terminal adapter to support my phones. > Though it will support two lines, I'm only using one at the present > time. > > Linksys says the maximum number of extensions on one line is > two. > > Since I'm moving into a three bedroom house with a large > living area, a garage, and a workshop out back, I am likely going to > want to support more than two extension phones on one line. > > Does anyone know of a device that will plug into the RJ11 jack > of my ATA and then providesupport for five lines or more (so I can > connect up to five extensions)? Do you mean individually addressable extensions, or just phones on the line? If this is an SPA2102 or suchlike, I've got 5 phones hooked onto one line without any problem. I can't imagine why there would be any limit except for ringer load and current draw (if line-powered). The SPA2102 has a maximum ringer load of 3 REN, Since modern (no 2500 sets, please) phones have a REN of 0.1 or less, that wouldn't be a problem. > > Also, I plan to run wire from the house to the workshop out > back. I'll need some form of lightning protector. Dunno there. I'd bury it, myself. I'd trust a lightning protector to keep from burning the house down, but not to keep it from crisping the electronics.
Date: Thu, 21 Mar 2013 16:58:09 -0400 From: Retired <Retired@home.com> To: telecomdigestmoderator.remove-this@and-this-too.telecom-digest.org. Subject: Re: More Extensions and Lightning Protection Message-ID: <4ZudnYpRQML_6dbMnZ2dnUVZ5rqdnZ2d@giganews.com> On 3/20/13 3:34 PM, Fred Atkinson wrote: > Folks, > > I'm on my way to closing on a house. > > I have a Linksys VOIP terminal adapter to support my phones. > Though it will support two lines, I'm only using one at the present > time. > > Linksys says the maximum number of extensions on one line is > two. > > Since I'm moving into a three bedroom house with a large > living area, a garage, and a workshop out back, I am likely going to > want to support more than two extension phones on one line. > > Does anyone know of a device that will plug into the RJ11 jack > of my ATA and then providesupport for five lines or more (so I can > connect up to five extensions)? > > Also, I plan to run wire from the house to the workshop out > back. I'll need some form of lightning protector. > > I've struck out with Mike Sandman. So I thought the rest of > you might have some suggestions. > > Regards, > > > > > Fred > Is there a reason to not use a cordless base at the ATA, and multiple cordless remotes around the house, and maybe even in the garage ??
Date: Thu, 21 Mar 2013 17:47:30 -0700 From: Bob <RBF1147-UN@YAH0O.COM> To: telecomdigestmoderator.remove-this@and-this-too.telecom-digest.org. Subject: Re: More Extensions and Lightning Protection Message-ID: <kig9im$2j9$1@dont-email.me> On 3/20/2013 12:34, Fred Atkinson wrote: > Does anyone know of a device that will plug into the RJ11 jack > of my ATA and then providesupport for five lines or more (so I can > connect up to five extensions)? The easiest solution would be a cordless system with multiple handsets.
Date: Wed, 20 Mar 2013 11:26:46 -0700 (PDT) From: HAncock4 <withheld@invalid.telecom-digest.org> To: telecomdigestmoderator.remove-this@and-this-too.telecom-digest.org. Subject: Verizon switching building remade into data center Message-ID: <dd5405ae-a050-47f1-a124-e393e5a76cc9@w3g2000vba.googlegroups.com> The NY Times reported that a former Verizon (NY Telephone Co.) switching center is being remade into a secured data center where companies can place their servers. "There will be uninterrupted power, cooling and security. The first phase, now nearing completion, has the capacity to handle 5.4 megawatts of electrical demand; up to 40 megawatts of demand" The building's floors can handle much heavier loads and there is space for ductwork. Vz still uses three floors. for full article please see: http://cityroom.blogs.nytimes.com/2013/03/20/a-new-purpose-for-an-old-telephone-building-but-its-dull-face-remains/?ref=nyregion In Philadelphia, a major Bell Telephone Company of Pennsylvania downtown central office has been remade into luxury apartments. www.1835arch.com
Date: Wed, 20 Mar 2013 05:43:19 +0000 (UTC) From: wollman@bimajority.org (Garrett Wollman) To: telecomdigestmoderator.remove-this@and-this-too.telecom-digest.org. Subject: Re: Verizon's Latest Plan For Cable Fees Could Lower Your Cable Bill -- Eventually Message-ID: <kibi9n$1sju$1@grapevine.csail.mit.edu> In article <51493A76.1070100@annsgarden.com>, Neal McLain <nmclain@annsgarden.com> wrote: [I reordered his comments somewhat] >- Broadcast station licensees have a legal right to force retailers to > carry their signals on the basic tier. >- Any programmer that owns non-broadcast programming and a broadcast > station licensee has a legal right to force retailers to carry the > non-broadcast programming on the basic tier as a condition for > granting retransmission consent for the broadcast signal. Note that these mechanisms are mutually exclusive: a broadcaster can elect retrans consent or must-carry but not both. There are also limits to how much channel capacity can be tied up with mandatory-carriage channels, but there are likely few cable systems left that qualify for anything other than the highest tier. >- Broadcast licensees have federally-mandated geographic markets > ("Designated Market Area" or DMA). In any other industry, this > arrangement would be called a "geographic monopoly." In the > upside-down world of television broadcasting, it's called "consumer > protection." I'm not sure what you're on about here. DMA is Nielsen's invention and trademark, not the government's -- the FCC merely adopted it as a frame of reference for presumptively determining the boundaries of a market for CATV and SHVIA purposes. (Ownership limits in Arbitron-rated radio markets use a similar mechanism.) The only monopoly a television licensee has comes from its contracts with program providers (networks and syndicators) -- and those program proviers have a legal monopoly granted to them by their contracts with the copyright owners of those works. (There is less competition in broadcast television than there used to be, thanks to the partial repeal of the duopoly rule for large markets, and the "failing station" waiver that allows television duopolies in small markets. However, this is more than balanced out by the large number of additional non-broadcast options.) It is true, and maybe this is your point, that when CATV operators offer two stations that carry the same programming, they are generally required to substitute the programming from whichever station is considered "local" to their market, if that station requests it. >All that said, I have some doubt that a-la-carte would actually lower >retail prices anyway. My narrative about that is at: > > >http://theoldcatvequipmentmuseum.org/320/321/index.html > I strongly suspect that many consumers would be happy to pay only a token amount less in the knowledge that they are "not paying for" those channels that they have no interest in (whether it's EWTN or LOGO). -GAWollman -- Garrett A. Wollman | What intellectual phenomenon can be older, or more oft wollman@bimajority.org| repeated, than the story of a large research program Opinions not shared by| that impaled itself upon a false central assumption my employers. | accepted by all practitioners? - S.J. Gould, 1993
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