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The Telecom Digest for September 19, 2013
Volume 32 : Issue 197 : "text" Format
Messages in this Issue:
NSA: No one "had a full understanding" of 2009 call-checking program (Monty Solomon)
The iPhones of Fall (Monty Solomon)
Overland Park, Kansas waves yellow flag at Google Fiber (Neal McLain)
Re: Overland Park, Kansas waves yellow flag at Google Fiber (danny burstein)
Senator Asks Cellphone Carriers: What Exactly Do You Share With Government? (Monty Solomon)
X.25 links still available? (B. Z. Lederman)

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Date: Sun, 15 Sep 2013 02:10:10 -0400 From: Monty Solomon <monty@roscom.com> To: telecomdigestmoderator.remove-this@and-this-too.telecom-digest.org. Subject: NSA: No one "had a full understanding" of 2009 call-checking program Message-ID: <p06240812ce5aff88ac78@[]> NSA: No one "had a full understanding" of 2009 call-checking program In call prior to FISA Court doc release, top intel officials defend policy. by Cyrus Farivar Sept 10 2013 Ars Technica The Office of the Director of National Intelligence (ODNI) has released a new batch of secret National Security Agency (NSA) documents Tuesday afternoon. The documents come from the Foreign Intelligence Surveillance Court (FISC), and they detail NSA violations of spying protocols from 2006 to 2009. They were released in relation to an Electronic Frontier Foundation lawsuit. On a Tuesday morning phone call with reporters, two top intelligence officials downplayed the court's findings, insisting that the court "did not find any intentional effort" to violate the law. "These are some incredibly complicated systems that NSA was not able to fully and accurately articulate to the court, in large part because no one at NSA had a full understanding of how the program was operating at the time," said Robert Litt, general counsel of the Office of the Director of National Intelligence. The new documents show that in 2009, the NSA checked an "alert list" of nearly 18,000 telephone numbers against daily reports it got of Americans' phone calls. The numbers on the alert list were supposed to be from suspected terrorists, but most of them didn't meet the standard of "reasonable articulable suspicion" (RAS). Specifically, an FISC judge wrote in March 2009 that "only 1,935 of the 17,835 identifiers on the alert list were RAS-approved." The FISC court judge slammed the government for exceeding its mandate and verging on dishonesty, but the government's lawyers clearly don't see it that way. ... http://arstechnica.com/tech-policy/2013/09/nsa-no-one-had-a-full-understanding-of-2009-call-checking-program/
Date: Sun, 15 Sep 2013 02:12:17 -0400 From: Monty Solomon <monty@roscom.com> To: telecomdigestmoderator.remove-this@and-this-too.telecom-digest.org. Subject: The iPhones of Fall Message-ID: <p06240813ce5afff5c602@[]> The iPhones of Fall By Ian Bogost The Atlantic When Apple launched the iPhone 4 in 2010, the company's website featured large images of the device with the text "This changes everything. Again." Change has been a constant refrain in Apple's marketing over the years. The famous 1984 Macintosh ads framed the computer as an agent of revolution. And the "Think Different" ads of the 1990s implied that purchasing one of these underdog machines put you in the same company as other misunderstood genius underdogs. But it goes back further than that, too. Ads for the Apple II and the business-oriented Apple III in the early 1980s compared their power to that of famous inventors of ages past, including Henry Ford, Thomas Jefferson, and Ben Franklin, among others. If you watch the original 2007 iPhone announcement, you'll be hard-pressed to deny the device's overall revolutionary claims. But the "change" associated with subsequent models has been fairly modest, despite Apple's frequent claims to the contrary. The iPhone 4 or 5S hardly compare to the Apple II, the Macintosh, or even the original iPhone in their implications and impact. They have offered small but important updates: high-resolution displays, more sensors, increased battery capacity, faster processors, better cameras. Fingerprint security in iPhone 5S is an interesting advance, but it's hardly an innovation akin the printing press or the airplane or the personal computer. Indeed, it's not an innovation at all, but merely a refinement and systematic roll-out of an old idea that hadn't yet caught on, but might be ready to do so. ... http://www.theatlantic.com/technology/archive/2013/09/the-iphones-of-fall/279620/
Date: Wed, 18 Sep 2013 03:06:21 -0700 (PDT) From: Neal McLain <nmclain.remove-this@and-this-too.annsgarden.com> To: telecomdigestmoderator.remove-this@and-this-too.telecom-digest.org. Subject: Overland Park, Kansas waves yellow flag at Google Fiber Message-ID: <d358e93c-f0bb-448a-8310-517292ec08a8@googlegroups.com> By Jim Barthold, FierceCable, September 17, 2013 | A technicality in the legal agreement between Overland Park, | Kansas and Google Fiber has caused the city to wave a yellow | flag in front of the search-engine-and-more's fast-moving | ultra-high-speed broadband network plans. | | While city officials didn't specify what, exactly, was | bothering them, The Kansas City Star suggested in a story that | this issue was a liability concern in the legal agreement | between the two parties that needed to be resolved before the | matter could proceed. A vote to approve or reject the | agreement is expected to be held Oct. 14 after both sides have | further studied the matter. Continued: http://tinyurl.com/mcvwstu This article cites an article from the Kansas City Star: http://tinyurl.com/k4n884l Some of the comments in the comment section of the KSC article do a better job of explaining the altercation than either FierceCable or KSC does. Neal McLain
Date: Wed, 18 Sep 2013 13:58:26 +0000 (UTC) From: danny burstein <dannyb@panix.com> To: telecomdigestmoderator.remove-this@and-this-too.telecom-digest.org. Subject: Re: Overland Park, Kansas waves yellow flag at Google Fiber Message-ID: <l1cbi2$lq1$1@reader1.panix.com> In <d358e93c-f0bb-448a-8310-517292ec08a8@googlegroups.com> Neal McLain <nmclain.remove-this@and-this-too.annsgarden.com> writes: [snip] >Continued: >http://tinyurl.com/mcvwstu > >This article cites an article from the Kansas City Star: > >http://tinyurl.com/k4n884l > >Some of the comments in the comment section of the KSC article do a better job of explaining the altercation than either FierceCable or KSC does. Thanks for the pointer to the comments. My default browser settings block the Facebook addition that carries them so I wouldn't have seen them otherwise. They made it a lot clearer. -- _____________________________________________________ Knowledge may be power, but communications is the key dannyb@panix.com [to foil spammers, my address has been double rot-13 encoded]
Date: Sun, 15 Sep 2013 02:15:55 -0400 From: Monty Solomon <monty@roscom.com> To: telecomdigestmoderator.remove-this@and-this-too.telecom-digest.org. Subject: Senator Asks Cellphone Carriers: What Exactly Do You Share With Government? Message-ID: <p06240814ce5b00f7025e@[]> Senator Asks Cellphone Carriers: What Exactly Do You Share With Government? By SOMINI SENGUPTA SEPTEMBER 12, 2013 Last year, Edward J. Markey, then a member of the House of Representatives, asked the country's major cellphone carriers to disclose how many data requests they received from federal and local law enforcement agencies. More than one million in 2011 alone, they said, revealing for the first time how ubiquitous cellphone records had become in criminal investigations. Now a member of the Senate, Mr. Markey is asking for this year's numbers and with more details. What exactly does the government seek from the carriers, he wants to know. How often do they ask for cellphone tower dumps, location data, content of text messages, browsing history and so on. How many of those requests did the companies comply with and how many did they deny and why? The letter to eight companies, including the largest carriers, AT&T, T-Mobile, and Verizon, was sent Thursday. It comes against the backdrop of mounting revelations about secret surveillance of Americans communications. ... http://bits.blogs.nytimes.com/2013/09/12/senator-asks-cellphone-carriers-what-exactly-do-you-share-with-government/
Date: Wed, 18 Sep 2013 09:16:41 -0500 (CDT) From: "B. Z. Lederman" <LEDERMAN@Encompasserve.org> To: telecomdigestmoderator.remove-this@and-this-too.telecom-digest.org. Subject: X.25 links still available? Message-ID: <01OYK6286E0I00GIEA@Encompasserve.org> | To: telecomdigestmoderator.remove-this@and-this-too.telecom-digest.org | Subject: Fwd: X.25 links still available? | Reply-To: lederman@encompasserve.org | | From: sampsal@gmail.com | Subject: X.25 links still available? | Date: Mon, 16 Sep 2013 18:40:41 -0700 (PDT) | | Does anybody know if it is possible to get an X.25 hook up nowadays? | | Ideally over the D channel of a basic ISDN connection. | | sampsa The anwer is almost certainly "no", unless you are already an existing customer. I was working at Digital Equipment / Compaq / HP when the port to Itanium was being done, back in the early 2000s. At that time, we had to decide what layered products to port. Since I had a background in Telecommunications, I researched the question of porting the PSI product set. Even back then, all of the carriers in North America and Europe that I could find had stopped accepting new customers for X.25 and related services: they only supported businesses that had their own private networks running over the packet network. At most, there was one very small carrier in Finland or Iceland that was privately operated that accepted new customers, and possibly one in Korea (couldn't read all of the web site). Most of the companies that had offered X.25 in the U.S. no longer existed at all. More than 10 years later, I would expect even most support for private networks to be gone. Bart ***** Moderator's Note ***** I thought all the credit-card processing networks were on X.25 - not so? Come to think of it, what happened to Tymnet and Telenet? Weren't they using X.25? Bill Horne Moderator
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