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The Telecom Digest for June 30, 2013
Volume 32 : Issue 142 : "text" Format
Messages in this Issue:
Re: It's vacation time again (Neal McLain)
Re: Walmart cellphone plans? (tlvp)
Re: Access Recovery Charge (T)

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Date: Sat, 29 Jun 2013 04:16:03 -0700 (PDT) From: Neal McLain <nmclain.remove-this@and-this-too.annsgarden.com> To: telecomdigestmoderator.remove-this@and-this-too.telecom-digest.org. Subject: Re: It's vacation time again Message-ID: <bb2422d4-5412-4d7b-9b68-f7795d05106d@googlegroups.com> On Friday, June 28, 2013 3:45:52 PM UTC-5, Thad Floryan wrote: > D'oh! Headslap and facepalm -- I didn't know comp.dcom.telecom > was also being distributed via a mailing list. > Learn something new every day! :-) T-D is also available as a Google Group. If you have a Google account attached to the same email address that you use for T-D, log in to Google with that address. From the Google home page, click More -> Even more -> Groups -> My Groups, and you should see a link to T-D. You can read every one of 68,960 messages currently in the archive, search by name or topic, comment on any message, or start a new topic. You can also discover other interesting factoids, such as the Most Active Posters of all time: Monty Solomon, Lisa Hancock, and John Levine. Neal McLain ***** Moderator's Note ***** What Neal is pointing out is that Google will, with some prodding, let its users see the Usenet archives. These are not, however, "Google" groups: I reserved a group for the digest some time ago, but it's not in use. It's just a placeholder, to keep the name. Bill Horne Moderator
Date: Sat, 29 Jun 2013 19:47:06 -0400 From: tlvp <mPiOsUcB.EtLlLvEp@att.net> To: telecomdigestmoderator.remove-this@and-this-too.telecom-digest.org. Subject: Re: Walmart cellphone plans? Message-ID: <1c6wh4qt1jgxk.blvl8borb2ob.dlg@40tude.net> On 27 Jun 2013 00:14:54 -0400, Brian Gordon wrote: > So the plethora of Walmart ads say you can keep your phone(s) and number(s) and > switch to their off-brand carriers for the same networks and a lot less money. > > Anyone try that? Experiences? Is one better than others? We use cellphones as > phones, with a little texting, nothing exotic. Sprint prices aren't that > great. Any recommendations? Another "off-brand carrier" (actually, MVNO) is Page Plus Cellular, https://www.pagepluscellular.com/ , through whom you can get service for many (if not all) Verizon handsets, at tariffs ranging from $10 every 120 days (rolling over if renewed by day 120), good for about 80 minutes, to plans for really heavy users (like unlimited calling, unlimited texting, and 5GB data for ~$70/month). Mexico's Carlos Slim is said to be buying them out, but their web site seems virtually unchanged ... . Walmart doesn't sell Page Plus refills, AFAICT; but an outfit called Calling Mart does, often at 5% off: https://www.callingmart.com/ . Cheers, -- tlvp (a satisfied, el cheapo, PP/CM customer) -- Avant de repondre, jeter la poubelle, SVP.
Date: Sat, 29 Jun 2013 15:01:10 -0400 From: T <kd1s.nospam@cox.nospam.net> To: telecomdigestmoderator.remove-this@and-this-too.telecom-digest.org. Subject: Re: Access Recovery Charge Message-ID: <MPG.2c38f9028097c98e989e10@news.eternal-september.org> In article <kptsfu$25g$1@dont-email.me>, dave.garland@wizinfo.com says... > > Having just received a bill in which CenturyLink (motto: "proving > Qwest wasn't so bad after all") raises my Access Recovery Charge, I > started to wonder. The bill says the charges are "to recover costs > of providing access to the telephone network". Since I do not receive > any telephone service from CenturyLink (only DSL, a non-regulated > service), or the "telephone network" (aside from the copper from my > house back to the pedestal 2 blocks away) should I be subject to this > charge? > > Google finds FCC filings and rulings regarding the Access Recovery > Charge, so is this actually a federally regulated thing (and not just > another BS "extra charge for being alive")? And if so, should I be > charged it, since I'm not using the switched telephone network? Like most of the fees and other 'taxes' on our phone bills this is just a money grab by the incumbent telco. It's why I ditched even Vonage - they were getting ridiculous on the fees. And I'm still getting email from them asking me to come back. Yeah, right.
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