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The Telecom Digest for August 11, 2011
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Date: Tue, 09 Aug 2011 19:36:07 -0500 From: "John F. Morse" <firstname.lastname@example.org> To: email@example.com. Subject: Re: "splicing" into a fiber optic trunk Message-ID: <firstname.lastname@example.org> On Tue, 09 Aug 2011 10:28:54 -0400 Fred Goldstein wrote: > This is pretty standard practice nowadays. If it's aerial fiber, it only > costs a few hundred dollars of labor for two guys and a cherry picker > truck. Plus they run the lateral to you. Underground is a little > different; it's done in a manhole, but there are still slack loops down > there. Pulling an underground lateral into a building can require some > fancy digging under the street, sidewalks, and yards, so it can be very > expensive (five figures per site). As a former Southwestern Bell Telco Systems Tech, pre 1988, and later an HFC cable designer in 2001, I'm familiar with aerial fiber maintenance slack loops. But I've never seen underground fiber inside a manhole. How is the maintenance slack loop ran? Around the manhole wall a couple of times, or is there some kind of rack used to hold the extra length? -- John When a person has -- whether they knew it or not -- already rejected the Truth, by what means do they discern a lie?
Date: Tue, 09 Aug 2011 20:44:15 -0400 From: Ron <email@example.com> To: firstname.lastname@example.org. Subject: Re: AT&T to revoke unlimited data plans from some users Message-ID: <email@example.com> John Mayson <firstname.lastname@example.org> wrote: > Speaking of tethering (i.e. sharing your phone's broadband > connection with other devices), can someone explain to me the > justification for charging extra for this? You mean besides greed and "because they can"? It does cost them more. You have an account that is allowed to use up to X bytes. If you use fewer than X, they win: that bandwidth is available for other users. If you tether, you're likely to transfer more bytes. Even though you're still within your allotment, their network is busier. AT&T is annoyed with you for coming closer to using what you've paid them for. They'll penalize you for your audacity. -- Ron (user telnom.for.plume in domain antichef.com)
Date: Wed, 10 Aug 2011 17:04:14 -0400 From: tlvp <tPlOvUpBErLeLsEs@hotmail.com> To: email@example.com. Subject: Re: AT&T to revoke unlimited data plans from some users Message-ID: <firstname.lastname@example.org> On Tue, 09 Aug 2011 20:44:15 -0400, Ron <email@example.com> wrote: > ... > ... You have an account that is allowed to use > up to X bytes. If you use fewer than X, they win: that bandwidth is > available for other users. > > If you tether, you're likely to transfer more bytes. Even though > you're still within your allotment, their network is busier. AT&T > is annoyed with you for coming closer to using what you've paid them > for. They'll penalize you for your audacity. In effect, they want you to pay both for the right to be using it, and for actually using it. Golly gosh gump-gribble! Nefarious, that :-) . Cheers, -- tlvp -- Avant de repondre, jeter la poubelle, SVP
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