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The Telecom Digest for March 14, 2011
Volume 30 : Issue 65 : "text" Format

Messages in this Issue:

Re: Handhelds on Planes A Bigger Problem Than You Think(David Clayton)
Re: Annoyance Calls(Mike Spencer)
Re: Annoyance Calls(Wes Leatherock)
Re: Annoyance Calls(Lisa or Jeff)
Re: How does Comcast deliver dial tone?(T)
Re: How does Comcast deliver dial tone?(Adam H. Kerman)


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Date: Sat, 12 Mar 2011 08:50:36 +1100 From: David Clayton <dcstar@myrealbox.com> To: telecomdigestmoderator.remove-this@and-this-too.telecom-digest.org. Subject: Re: Handhelds on Planes A Bigger Problem Than You Think Message-ID: <pan.2011.03.11.21.50.32.604625@myrealbox.com> On Fri, 11 Mar 2011 09:17:45 -0600, John Mayson wrote: .......... > I was recently onboard a Boeing 777 and the captain said he couldn't push > back from the gate until all electronic devices were off. Usually just > the cabin crew made such an announcement on this airline. The captain > repeated this message two more times. I didn't see anyone turn anything > off, but it's a big plane. I have to wonder if someone's electronic > device was on and was interfering with the flight deck. He finally came > on, thanked us, and we pushed back. I would suspect that the new aircraft may have detection devices now that indicate any close sources of "unauthorised" RF sources in an attempt to warn the flight crew of any potential problems - at least I would hope that such things are now in "Fly by wire" commercial aircraft! -- Regards, David. David Clayton Melbourne, Victoria, Australia. Knowledge is a measure of how many answers you have, intelligence is a measure of how many questions you have.
Date: 12 Mar 2011 15:03:34 -0400 From: Mike Spencer <mds@bogus.nodomain.nowhere> To: telecomdigestmoderator.remove-this@and-this-too.telecom-digest.org. Subject: Re: Annoyance Calls Message-ID: <87oc5gf9fd.fsf@nudel.nodomain.nowhere> Fred Atkinson <fatkinson.remove-this@and-this-too.mishmash.com> wrote: > I got another call from those jerks in Harlingen, TX. > > The number was: (956)421-4967 . A quick google shows: Texas Fruit & Berry Address: 222 E Van Buren Ave Harlingen, TX, 78550-6823 Phone: 956-421-4967 Fax: 956-787-0916 at: http://www.macraesbluebook.com/search/company.cfm?company=561018 An odd sort of company to be doing phone spam unless perhaps the company name is descriptive of the proprietors rather than the products. Oh, wait, this place says TF&B is "CLOSED". http://www.yelp.com/biz/texas-fruit-and-berry-company-harlingen Ah, well, appears that TF&B may have been sued out of existence and now some telemarketing droids are using the number. ObTelecom: I wonder if s[cp]ammers and telemarketers watch the bankruptcy news and specifically apply for numbers widely reported as belonging to legit companies. -- Mike Spencer Nova Scotia, Canada
Date: Sun, 13 Mar 2011 16:57:54 -0700 (PDT) From: Wes Leatherock <wleathus@yahoo.com> To: telecomdigestmoderator.remove-this@and-this-too.telecom-digest.org. Subject: Re: Annoyance Calls Message-ID: <324645.23199.qm@web111717.mail.gq1.yahoo.com> --- On Sat, 3/12/11, Mike Spencer <mds@bogus.nodomain.nowhere> wrote: > Fred Atkinson <fatkinson.remove-this@and-this-too.mishmash.com> > wrote: > > > I got another call from those jerks > in Harlingen, TX. > > > > The number was: (956)421-4967 > . > > A quick google shows: > > Texas Fruit & Berry > > Address: 222 E Van Buren Ave > Harlingen, TX, > 78550-6823 > Phone: 956-421-4967 > Fax: 956-787-0916 > > at: http://www.macraesbluebook.com/search/company.cfm?companyV1018 > > An odd sort of company to be doing phone spam unless > perhaps the > company name is descriptive of the proprietors rather than > the > products. > > Oh, wait, this place says TF&B is "CLOSED". > Mike Spencer > Nova Scotia, Canada There used to be, and may still be, quite a few places in the Lower Rio Grande Valley (a semi-tropical area that grows many fruits the year round) that specialized in mail order sales especially in parts of the year when those fruits were out of season. I do not know if Texas Fruit & Berry was such a company, but many mail order companies make annoying calls. I do not know if that is or was Texas Fruit & Berry's business, but it is not implausible. Wes Leatherock wleathus@yahoo.com wesrock@aol.com
Date: Sun, 13 Mar 2011 12:01:09 -0700 (PDT) From: Lisa or Jeff <hancock4@bbs.cpcn.com> To: telecomdigestmoderator.remove-this@and-this-too.telecom-digest.org. Subject: Re: Annoyance Calls Message-ID: <7801c0ef-737a-4536-91c7-0cc7d868ccd5@11g2000prf.googlegroups.com> On Mar 12, 2:03 pm, Mike Spencer <m...@bogus.nodomain.nowhere> wrote: > A quick google shows: >   Texas Fruit & Berry > Oh, wait, this place says TF&B is "CLOSED". > Ah, well, appears that TF&B may have been sued out of existence and > now some telemarketing droids are using the number. Sometimes in situations like this a business is closed but the space and phones remain intact for a while until it is liquidated. Depending on the landlord, that can take quite a while. (We've looked at various commercial space and often the prior defunct tentant's stuff was left behind. In a low-rent district, that could be for a long time.) I'm just speculating here: Is it possible this business is closed but it's phones remain in service? Perhaps their system is broken and sending out false calls, but no one is around to fix it. It could take a few months before the service is disconnected for non-payment of bill.
Date: Sat, 12 Mar 2011 18:03:23 -0500 From: T <kd1s.nospam@cox.nospam.net> To: telecomdigestmoderator.remove-this@and-this-too.telecom-digest.org. Subject: Re: How does Comcast deliver dial tone? Message-ID: <MPG.27e5c5c6554c744e989d1f@news.eternal-september.org> In article <pan.2011.03.10.21.04.15.553841@myrealbox.com>, dcstar@myrealbox.com says... > > On Thu, 10 Mar 2011 15:54:35 +0000, Adam H. Kerman wrote: > > > Bill Horne <bill@horneQRM.net> wrote: > ......... > >>Does anyone know why Comcast has so many problems with their phone > >>connections? > > > > Sunspots. > > That may sound a little facetious to some people, but I wonder with our > increasing reliance on Wireless connections of all sorts that this sort of > thing will be an increasing issue over the upcoming decades? > > The number of individuals on the planet reliant on Wireless connections > must have exploded since the last 11-year Sunspot cycle. Sounds sort of what I'm going through with a client right now. One of their sites has terrible network performance but they won't tell me anything about the properties of that network. So I suggested sun spots, backhoe fade, etc.
Date: Sun, 13 Mar 2011 17:52:20 +0000 (UTC) From: "Adam H. Kerman" <ahk@chinet.com> To: telecomdigestmoderator.remove-this@and-this-too.telecom-digest.org. Subject: Re: How does Comcast deliver dial tone? Message-ID: <ilj08k$ji6$2@news.albasani.net> T <kd1s.nospam@cox.nospam.net> wrote: >dcstar@myrealbox.com says... >>On Thu, 10 Mar 2011 15:54:35 +0000, Adam H. Kerman wrote: >>>Bill Horne <bill@horneQRM.net> wrote: >>>>Does anyone know why Comcast has so many problems with their phone >>>>connections? >>>Sunspots. >>That may sound a little facetious to some people, but I wonder with our >>increasing reliance on Wireless connections of all sorts that this sort of >>thing will be an increasing issue over the upcoming decades? >>The number of individuals on the planet reliant on Wireless connections >>must have exploded since the last 11-year Sunspot cycle. >Sounds sort of what I'm going through with a client right now. One of >their sites has terrible network performance but they won't tell me >anything about the properties of that network. >So I suggested sun spots, backhoe fade, etc. Nah. You're taking jobs away from the customer service reps at their network provider whose job it is to read from the excuse of the day calendar when misfiling trouble tickets. You want the recession to end at some point, don't you?
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