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The Telecom Digest for December 22, 2010
Volume 29 : Issue 345 : "text" Format

Messages in this Issue:

Re: Telstra loses directory copyright appeal(John Mayson)
Navigon MobileNavigator App Bests Standalone Devices(Monty Solomon)
Re: Navigon MobileNavigator App Bests Standalone Devices(tlvp)
Re: Telstra loses directory copyright appeal(Wes Leatherock)
Re: History--Eight Digit US telephone numbers?(Wes Leatherock)
Re: Phone-Wielding Shoppers Strike Fear Into Retailers(David Clayton)
Re: Telstra loses directory copyright appeal(David Clayton)
Re: Telstra loses directory copyright appeal(Adam H. Kerman)
Re: Telstra loses directory copyright appeal(Free Lunch)
Re: History--Eight Digit US telephone numbers?(Lisa or Jeff)
Number portability and the demise of line number pools in bankruptcy (Adam H. Kerman)
FCC Adopts First Open Internet Regulations(Neal McLain)
FCC Acts to Preserve Internet Freedom and Openness(Monty Solomon)
FCC Takes First Step to Help Revolutionize America's 9-1-1 Services for Consumers, First Responders. (Monty Solomon)


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Date: Mon, 20 Dec 2010 13:38:55 -0600 (Central Standard Time) From: John Mayson <john@mayson.us> To: telecomdigestmoderator.remove-this@and-this-too.telecom-digest.org. Subject: Re: Telstra loses directory copyright appeal Message-ID: <alpine.WNT.2.00.1012201335060.4276@AURM106297.americas.ad.flextronics.com> On Sun, 19 Dec 2010, Neal McLain wrote: > On a related note, is the Australian postal code directory copyrighted? I've > noted that the Canadian postal code directory is protected by a "crown > copyright"; i.e., copyrighted by Elizabeth II herself, so I assume the > Australian director is protected by a similar copyright. > > I have a mental image of HRH sitting at her laptop on her Jacobean desk, > corgis at her feet, busily editing postal code directories. I get a similar notice when I fire up my GPS as it contains Canadian maps. And I had a similar image of the Queen pouring over atlases or an old tan blobe and entering data into her laptop. And not to steer completely off the deep end here. I sometimes dream of pocket watches. I'm not sure why. I recently dreamed the Queen gave me a pocket watch. I said, "Oh boy! A pocket watch! I've always wanted one." She scowled at me and said in a stern voice, "Good sir, that pocket watch is property of the Crown and shall be returned immediately upon completion of this dream." So I can't get away with ripping off the Buckingham Palace even in my dreams. John -- John Mayson <john@mayson.us> Austin, Texas, USA ***** Moderator's Note ***** The watch represents your dedication and sense of pride in taking care of a machine that you are entrusted with, but cannot own. You are either an airline pilot, an astronaut, or a central office technician. Bill Horne Moderator
Date: Tue, 21 Dec 2010 08:07:41 -0500 From: Monty Solomon <monty@roscom.com> To: telecomdigestmoderator.remove-this@and-this-too.telecom-digest.org. Subject: Navigon MobileNavigator App Bests Standalone Devices Message-ID: <p062408a6c93656ac9793@[192.168.180.133]> Navigon MobileNavigator App Bests Standalone Devices by Adam C. Engst TidBITS 06 Dec 2010 Perhaps my favorite piece of consumer electronics over the past five years has been the car navigation GPS device, and I've reviewed a slew of them in TidBITS in that time (see our series "Find Yourself with GPS [1]"). But don't go looking for most of those models because they likely aren't available any more-the field moves quickly, rendering older models obsolete. My dirty little secret is that although I recommended these devices to friends and relatives, I never bought one for myself, since they were never quite perfect (though I liked the Garmin nüvi 255W quite a lot). I could see that the state of the art kept changing, and I didn't want to get stuck with a model that suffered greatly in comparison with later incarnations. You'll also notice that the last review in that series compared the device to early iPhone GPS navigation apps, G-Map and AT&T Navigator. I didn't feel that I could quite trust either of those in stressful driving situations. Hence my gift suggestion this year, for anyone who has an iPhone and could use navigation help when travelling in unfamiliar environs, is a GPS iPhone app I've tested extensively and feel comfortable recommending: Navigon MobileNavigator [2] (hereafter referred to as Navigon). Put simply, Navigon is as good as or better than every standalone GPS device I've used, with only a few minor qualifications. ... http://db.tidbits.com/article/11801
Date: Tue, 21 Dec 2010 14:33:11 -0500 From: tlvp <tPlOvUpBErLeLsEs@hotmail.com> To: telecomdigestmoderator.remove-this@and-this-too.telecom-digest.org. Subject: Re: Navigon MobileNavigator App Bests Standalone Devices Message-ID: <op.vn2wlli3itl47o@acer250.gateway.2wire.net> On Tue, 21 Dec 2010 08:07:41 -0500, Monty Solomon <monty@roscom.com> wrote: > Navigon MobileNavigator App Bests Standalone Devices > > http://db.tidbits.com/article/11801 Heh ... yet another web site that Opera can't render the meat of, while Safari can. Thank goodness for Opera's right-click "Open with ... >" alternative browser choices :-) . Cheers, -- tlvp -- Avant de repondre, jeter la poubelle, SVP
Date: Mon, 20 Dec 2010 13:19:35 -0800 (PST) From: Wes Leatherock <wleathus@yahoo.com> To: telecomdigestmoderator.remove-this@and-this-too.telecom-digest.org. Subject: Re: Telstra loses directory copyright appeal Message-ID: <777878.55011.qm@web111724.mail.gq1.yahoo.com> --- On Sun, 12/19/10, Neal McLain <nmclain@annsgarden.com> wrote: > From: Neal McLain <nmclain@annsgarden.com> >> Telstra has lost an appeal to keep telephone directories published >> by its subsidiary Sensis copyrighted. > > On a related note, is the Australian postal code directory > copyrighted? I've noted that the Canadian postal code > directory is protected by a "crown copyright"; i.e., > copyrighted by Elizabeth II herself, so I assume the > Australian director is protected by a similar copyright. > > I have a mental image of HRH sitting at her laptop on her > Jacobean desk, corgis at her feet, busily editing postal > code directories. > > Neal McLain In countries which accept the queen (or king) of England as their soverign, "the crown" in that sense means the govenrment. Wes Leatherock wleathus@yahoo.com wesrock@aol.com
Date: Mon, 20 Dec 2010 13:43:38 -0800 (PST) From: Wes Leatherock <wleathus@yahoo.com> To: telecomdigestmoderator.remove-this@and-this-too.telecom-digest.org. Subject: Re: History--Eight Digit US telephone numbers? Message-ID: <21066.84308.qm@web111724.mail.gq1.yahoo.com> --- On Sun, 12/19/10, jsw <jsw@ivgate.omahug.org> wrote: { ... ] > I don't know about any of these except Los Angeles, and it's been my > understanding that quite a bit of the El-Lay area was indie using AE > step, and Ma Bell simply went along. ;-) I do know that there was > quite a bit of #5 crossbar in Orange County in the early 1970s, as > well as some 1E making inroads into the area as well. I vaguely > recall much of Santa Ana being step as well. The first dial office in Oklahoma City, installed by the Bell company in 1920, was AE step equipment ordered through WE as required, since WE did not make step equipment at that time. In 1927, the rest of the city was coverted to dial with WE SxS equipment. The AE equipment remained compatible with additions to the first (AE) office being made with WE equipment. In the late 1950s I remember we put out a news story that the ringing sound would be different in that office because the old (AE) ringing machine was being replaced. It was being replaced, not from failure, but because with the continued growth of the office it had reached its capacity. Ten or 20 years later the entire office was replaced with ESS. It was like a picture out of history books to see the AE line switches in their glass cases. Of course all the later additions used line finders. Wes Leatherock wleathus@yahoo.com wesrock@aol.com
Date: Tue, 21 Dec 2010 07:43:06 +1100 From: David Clayton <dcstar@myrealbox.com> To: telecomdigestmoderator.remove-this@and-this-too.telecom-digest.org. Subject: Re: Phone-Wielding Shoppers Strike Fear Into Retailers Message-ID: <pan.2010.12.20.20.43.05.437301@myrealbox.com> On Sun, 19 Dec 2010 16:09:51 -0500, T wrote: > In article <pan.2010.12.19.03.46.42.541726@myrealbox.com>, > dcstar@myrealbox.com says... >> >> On Sat, 18 Dec 2010 15:27:19 -0500, Monty Solomon wrote: >> >> > TECHNOLOGY >> > >> > Phone-Wielding Shoppers Strike Fear Into Retailers >> > >> > By MIGUEL BUSTILLO And ANN ZIMMERMAN >> > DECEMBER 15, 2010 >> ......... >> > Until recently, retailers could reasonably assume that if they just >> > lured shoppers to stores with enticing specials, the customers could >> > be coaxed into buying more profitable stuff, too. >> > >> > Now, marketers must contend with shoppers who can use their >> > smartphones inside stores to check whether the specials are really so >> > special, and if the rest of the merchandise is reasonably priced. >> > >> > ... >> And we now await retailers to start lobbying law makers to be allowed to >> use mobile jamming devices in-store to protect their sales..... > > Until such time as someone throws a coronary and nobody can call for help. Then you can use the "approved" in-house phone (for a small fee, of course...) -- Regards, David. David Clayton Melbourne, Victoria, Australia. Knowledge is a measure of how many answers you have, intelligence is a measure of how many questions you have. ***** Moderator's Note ***** OK, we get it, fun is fun, etc. I'm closing the thread. Bill Horne Moderator
Date: Tue, 21 Dec 2010 07:49:52 +1100 From: David Clayton <dcstar@myrealbox.com> To: telecomdigestmoderator.remove-this@and-this-too.telecom-digest.org. Subject: Re: Telstra loses directory copyright appeal Message-ID: <pan.2010.12.20.20.49.49.998822@myrealbox.com> On Sun, 19 Dec 2010 21:51:34 -0600, Neal McLain wrote: > > Telstra has lost an appeal to keep telephone directories published by > > its subsidiary Sensis copyrighted. > > On a related note, is the Australian postal code directory copyrighted? According to them, it seems so: http://auspost.com.au/products-and-services/download-postcode-data.html But I suspect that the same ruling that affects the telephone directories would now apply to this as there are many similarities between the two. > I've noted that the Canadian postal code directory is protected by a > "crown copyright"; i.e., copyrighted by Elizabeth II herself, so I > assume the Australian directory is protected by a similar copyright. > > I have a mental image of HRH sitting at her laptop on her Jacobean > desk, corgis at her feet, busily editing postal code directories. The ruling classes figured out many thousands of years ago to let their minions do all the dirty work in their names, and it ain't changed today..... Perhaps sitting at the desk looking at the balance sheet and smiling? -- Regards, David. David Clayton Melbourne, Victoria, Australia. Knowledge is a measure of how many answers you have, intelligence is a measure of how many questions you have. ***** Moderator's Note ***** What is it about the phone company that makes my readers so cynical about higher authority? ;-) Bill Horne Moderator
Date: Tue, 21 Dec 2010 04:15:05 +0000 (UTC) From: "Adam H. Kerman" <ahk@chinet.com> To: telecomdigestmoderator.remove-this@and-this-too.telecom-digest.org. Subject: Re: Telstra loses directory copyright appeal Message-ID: <iep9k8$bi0$2@news.albasani.net> Neal McLain <nmclain@annsgarden.com> wrote: >>Telstra has lost an appeal to keep telephone directories published >>by its subsidiary Sensis copyrighted. >On a related note, is the Australian postal code directory copyrighted? >I've noted that the Canadian postal code directory is protected by a >"crown copyright"; i.e., copyrighted by Elizabeth II herself, so I >assume the Australian director is protected by a similar copyright. >I have a mental image of HRH sitting at her laptop on her Jacobean desk, >corgis at her feet, busily editing postal code directories. Hehehehe The United States Postal Service ZIP Code directory is copyrighted and competing directories are published under license. I suppose since the post office does the actual work assigning ZIP Codes that it's possible to copyright? ZIP Codes are basic information incorporated into any demographic and transporation routing database without license, so I'm not sure how it's possible to prevent someone else from publishing a ZIP Code directory.
Date: Tue, 21 Dec 2010 11:47:47 -0600 From: Free Lunch <lunch@nofreelunch.us> To: telecomdigestmoderator.remove-this@and-this-too.telecom-digest.org. Subject: Re: Telstra loses directory copyright appeal Message-ID: <2up1h6hh1je9t930qlrjql03751hu1hokh@4ax.com> On Tue, 21 Dec 2010 04:15:05 +0000 (UTC), "Adam H. Kerman" <ahk@chinet.com> wrote in comp.dcom.telecom: >Neal McLain <nmclain@annsgarden.com> wrote: > >>>Telstra has lost an appeal to keep telephone directories published >>>by its subsidiary Sensis copyrighted. > >>On a related note, is the Australian postal code directory copyrighted? >>I've noted that the Canadian postal code directory is protected by a >>"crown copyright"; i.e., copyrighted by Elizabeth II herself, so I >>assume the Australian director is protected by a similar copyright. > >>I have a mental image of HRH sitting at her laptop on her Jacobean desk, >>corgis at her feet, busily editing postal code directories. > >Hehehehe > >The United States Postal Service ZIP Code directory is copyrighted and >competing directories are published under license. I suppose since the >post office does the actual work assigning ZIP Codes that it's possible >to copyright? ZIP Codes are basic information incorporated into any >demographic and transporation routing database without license, so I'm >not sure how it's possible to prevent someone else from publishing a ZIP >Code directory. The USPS's concern is for their electronic program. They want complete accuracy if they are going to give junk mail and bills a discount. Even though the software that verifies Zip+4 or Carrier Route presort is not sold by the USPS, they want to make sure that it is accurate.
Date: Tue, 21 Dec 2010 08:14:36 -0800 (PST) From: Lisa or Jeff <hancock4@bbs.cpcn.com> To: telecomdigestmoderator.remove-this@and-this-too.telecom-digest.org. Subject: Re: History--Eight Digit US telephone numbers? Message-ID: <100c22b7-15c4-41c9-9226-da2857483138@p38g2000vbn.googlegroups.com> On Dec 19, 9:07 pm, Sam Spade <s...@coldmail.com> wrote: > jsw wrote: > > > Our own Pat has eluded to the Wabash office in Chicago being > > step, but I kind of question this, since I know a lot of > > Chicago was panel and #1 crossbar from the 30s through the > > 70s. > > Alas, there used to be a web site with recordings of all those switch > sounds, including panel. I recently heard that on You-Tube there are recordings of such sounds. * * * * Regarding the number of proportion of various switch types, the Bell Labs history books have some statistics, but they're buried in footnotes and not indexed, so they're hard to find. (If I find them up I'll post them.) What is interesting is that for each switch type there are two statistics that are not at the same time. One statistic is the maximum proportion the switch held, and the other, usually later, is the maximum number of lines served by that switch. For example, in its heydey, step-by-step was the biggest switch used by the Bell System. But although other switches like crossbar and ESS entered service, SxS continued to grow, with its peak volume occuring in 1974. Unfortunately, the history books were published before the completion of ESS. I would be interested to see the stats on analog ESS and digital ESS relative to the older types. The statistics refer only to the Bell System. I don't know if the independents, which tended to serve smaller locations, had panel; though they did have their own crossbar and ESS. In one sense, very small telephone companies may have had trouble getting capital to replace their old SxS exchanges with ESS. But the footprintspace, maintenance, and labor savings for ESS was a big issue, especially for smaller community exchanges. Small exchanges were often unattended and a serviceman sent out (driving a considerable distance) only when necessary. ESS eliminated many of those trips. Small communities had big growth but no physical room to expand the exchange, and again ESS allowed that to happen. Finally, ESS allowed for new service options and increased revenue. * * * Someone mentioned patents. According to the Bell Labs history, Bell made a patent agreement with Automatic Electric to use their switches (and presumably AE got use of Bell's improvements). In the early years Bell contracted with AE to build switches for Bell under Bell specs. * * * Regarding the choice of whether to automate a city with step or panel, part of the decision depended on the expectation of future growth and the need to interconnect _automatically_ with other exchanges. A city not expected to grow that fast got step. Certain cities were experiencing extremely rapid growth in the 1920s and they got panel. Note that a big advantage of panel over step was in more efficient trunk usage between offices thanks to panel's ability to translate decimal numbers to whatever was needed for the trunk groups. Step got cumbersome, especially with high traffic to other offices. As to the interconnection, in cities a call from a dial exchange to a manual one was often not a toll call and thus could be handled automatically. The panel interface with manual boards worked out well for that. But in towns where calls to a manual exchange was usually toll, then an operator was required so the interface capability of panel wasn't needed. Panel had the capability to have a counter-meter for each subscriber to count up local calls. Calls could be timed and the meter incremented after each period, as they apparently were in NYC. I don't believe Step got this capability until much later. [The Bell Labs history spends quite a few pages on this subject.]
Date: Tue, 21 Dec 2010 04:09:42 +0000 (UTC) From: "Adam H. Kerman" <ahk@chinet.com> To: telecomdigestmoderator.remove-this@and-this-too.telecom-digest.org. Subject: Number portability and the demise of line number pools in bankruptcy Message-ID: <iep9a6$bi0$1@news.albasani.net> A hypothetical VoIP service doesn't resell line numbers from bandwidth.com or one of its competitors that do nothing but provide line numbers at needed rate centers. Instead, the VoIP company obtains its own pool of line numbers and an adequate physical presence at various telephone company central offices and participates in number portability following existing telco rate center polygons. A few of its subscribers become dissatisfied with the service, subscribe to a competing service that participates in number portability and port their numbers to the competitor. What happens when the VoIP service goes out of business? I assume that they lose the line number pool and that existing subscribers lose service if no other company bought the subscriber base from the bankruptcy trustee. What happens to the ported numbers? Is routing to the pool simply shut down? I assume that there is no obligation by the incumbent telephone company to switch those virtual lines. Or do the ported line numbers continue to exist on the equipment of the phone companies they were ported to? In that case, how is routing handled? The freed-up pool of unassigned line numbers is now available for assignment to whatever carrier needs it at any rate center in the area code. It won't necessarily be re-assigned to another carrier in the existing rate center, nor should it be if there's no need for it.
Date: Tue, 21 Dec 2010 13:24:24 -0600 From: Neal McLain <nmclain@annsgarden.com> To: telecomdigestmoderator.remove-this@and-this-too.telecom-digest.org. Subject: FCC Adopts First Open Internet Regulations Message-ID: <4D10FEE8.9000603@annsgarden.com> Party Line Vote Exposes Deep Divisions; Two Republican Commissioners Are Harshly Critical by John Eggerton -- Multichannel News, 12/21/2010 | The Federal Communications Commission voted along strict | party lines Tuesday to adopt regulations on Internet | access. | | The meeting was characterized by cordial delivery of | scathing dissents by the Republicans and a less-than | enthusiastic concurrence by swing vote Democratic | commissioner Michael Copps, who said he had seriously | considered dissenting before concluding it was at least | a first step in the right direction. Republican | commissioners said the order would be overturned by the | courts, as the FCC's BitTorrent ruling had been. http://tinyurl.com/3yax45g Neal McLain
Date: Tue, 21 Dec 2010 18:01:16 -0500 From: Monty Solomon <monty@roscom.com> To: telecomdigestmoderator.remove-this@and-this-too.telecom-digest.org. Subject: FCC Acts to Preserve Internet Freedom and Openness Message-ID: <p062408abc936e18b23fa@[192.168.180.133]> December 21, 2010 FCC Acts to Preserve Internet Freedom and Openness. Action Helps Ensure Robust Internet for Consumers, Innovation, Investment, Economic Prosperity Washington, D.C. - The Federal Communications Commission today acted to preserve the Internet as an open network enabling consumer choice, freedom of expression, user control, competition and the freedom to innovate. ... http://hraunfoss.fcc.gov/edocs_public/attachmatch/DOC-303746.pdf Genachowski Statement http://hraunfoss.fcc.gov/edocs_public/attachmatch/DOC-303746A1.pdf Copps Statement http://hraunfoss.fcc.gov/edocs_public/attachmatch/DOC-303746A2.pdf McDowell Statement http://hraunfoss.fcc.gov/edocs_public/attachmatch/DOC-303746A3.pdf Clyburn Statement http://hraunfoss.fcc.gov/edocs_public/attachmatch/DOC-303746A4.pdf Baker Statement http://hraunfoss.fcc.gov/edocs_public/attachmatch/DOC-303746A5.pdf ***** Moderator's Note ***** I don't think the FCC action will produce the competition that their PR statement predicts, but the readers will have to make up their own mind about that, and here's some of the information needed. Bill Horne Moderator
Date: Tue, 21 Dec 2010 18:10:31 -0500 From: Monty Solomon <monty@roscom.com> To: telecomdigestmoderator.remove-this@and-this-too.telecom-digest.org. Subject: FCC Takes First Step to Help Revolutionize America's 9-1-1 Services for Consumers, First Responders. Message-ID: <p062408adc936e36a9450@[192.168.180.133]> December 21, 2010 FCC Takes First Step to Help Revolutionize America's 9-1-1 Services for Consumers, First Responders. Rapid Sharing of Videos, Photos and Data to Improve Emergency Response Washington, D.C. --The Federal Communications Commission today took an important step to revolutionize America's 9-1-1 services for consumers and first responders by adopting a Notice of Inquiry (NOI) seeking public comment on how Next Generation 911 (NG911) can enable the public to obtain emergency assistance by means of advanced communications technologies beyond traditional voice-centric devices. The FCC has undertaken this proceeding in response to a recommendation in the National Broadband Plan seeking to harness the life-saving potential of text messaging, email, video and photos from mobile and landline broadband services. Despite the fact that there are more than 270 million wireless consumers nationwide and that approximately 70 percent of all 9-1-1 calls are made from mobile hand-held devices, today's 9-1-1 systems support voice-centric communications only and are not designed to transfer and receive text messaging, videos or photos. In some emergency situations --especially in circumstances where a call could further jeopardize someone's life and safety --texting may be the only way to reach out for help. In addition, many Americans, particularly those with disabilities, rely on text messaging as their primary means of communication. The sharing of timely and relevant videos and photos would provide first responders with on-the-ground information to help assess and address emergencies in real-time. For example, these technologies could help report crimes as they are happening thus giving law enforcement officials an increased advantage when responding. ... http://hraunfoss.fcc.gov/edocs_public/attachmatch/DOC-303733A1.pdf NOI http://hraunfoss.fcc.gov/edocs_public/attachmatch/FCC-10-200A1.pdf Fact Sheet http://hraunfoss.fcc.gov/edocs_public/attachmatch/DOC-303733A2.pdf Genachowski Statement http://hraunfoss.fcc.gov/edocs_public/attachmatch/FCC-10-200A2.pdf Copps Statement http://hraunfoss.fcc.gov/edocs_public/attachmatch/FCC-10-200A3.pdf McDowell Statement http://hraunfoss.fcc.gov/edocs_public/attachmatch/FCC-10-200A4.pdf Clyburn Statement http://hraunfoss.fcc.gov/edocs_public/attachmatch/FCC-10-200A5.pdf Baker Statement http://hraunfoss.fcc.gov/edocs_public/attachmatch/FCC-10-200A6.pdf
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