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The Telecom Digest for October 21, 2010
Volume 29 : Issue 283 : "text" Format

Messages in this Issue:

Re: Bell System Technical Journal(Thad Floryan)
Re: Bell System Technical Journal(John Levine)
Re: Happy anniversary cellphone!(Fred Atkinson, WB4AEJ)
Re: Facebook in Privacy Breach(Thad Floryan)
Re: Verizon Wireless Offers iPad at Stores Nationwide on October 28 (Bob Goudreau)
ACLU Net Neutrality report highly critical of FCC and business (Thad Floryan)
Re: Happy anniversary cellphone!(Richard)
Re: Bell System Technical Journal(Richard)
Re: Bell System Technical Journal(Rob Warnock)
Re: Bell System Technical Journal(Richard)
Re: Please identify this hold music(Rudy Valencia)
Re: Facebook in Privacy Breach(Tom Horne)
California Town Gets Phone Service for First Time in History(Richard)
Texting Trends & Human Contact(Monty Solomon)
Apple Brings FaceTime to the Mac(Monty Solomon)


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Date: Tue, 19 Oct 2010 19:20:38 -0700 From: Thad Floryan <thad@thadlabs.com> To: telecomdigestmoderator.remove-this@and-this-too.telecom-digest.org. Subject: Re: Bell System Technical Journal Message-ID: <4CBE51F6.9060102@thadlabs.com> On 10/18/2010 8:24 PM, tlvp wrote: > On Mon, 18 Oct 2010 05:08:03 -0400, Thad Floryan <thad@thadlabs.com> wrote: > >> On 10/17/2010 6:44 PM, Neal McLain wrote: >>> http://bstj.bell-labs.com/ Answering your (tlvp's) Q here: that URL is correct. I do receive a full web page with listings of articles just a moment ago at 7:15pm PDT 19-OCT-2010 from here in Silicon Valley. >> Fantastic! And every article is an individual PDF! >> >> *HOWEVER*, http://bstj.bell-labs.com/ must be the endpoint of a T1 or, >> perhaps, a 56K modem or even some tin cans connected by string ... >> ... >> Traceroutes (from here, Silicon Valley) are fine until *.NYC8.ALTER.NET >> and then bog down incredibly at lucent-gw.customer.alter.net beyond which >> is a maze of twisty little passages, all alike, with hollow echoes. :-) > > Heh ... trying traceroute from here leads, after > lucent-gw.customer.alter.net > (at [63.111.127.186]) only to [0.0.0.0] = [MyOwnComputerName]. 'Zat what > you > call "a maze of twisty little passages, all alike, with hollow echoes"? Yes. :-) >> ... http://bstj.bell-labs.com/BSTJ/images/Vol31/bstj31-6-1121.pdf > > That started to come in, s l o w l y , and then Adobe opened a little > monologue box > to inform me of an I/O error from the remote site, [OK]? OK, I guess. Pity. Right. :-( I let a wget run for awhile but it simply crawls so I killed it. It appears that after 1% or so has been transferred the outbound speed is dramatically throttled. I'm not going to wait 24 hours for an article.
Date: 20 Oct 2010 22:19:50 -0000 From: John Levine <johnl@iecc.com> To: telecomdigestmoderator.remove-this@and-this-too.telecom-digest.org. Subject: Re: Bell System Technical Journal Message-ID: <20101020221950.95572.qmail@joyce.lan> >> That started to come in, s l o w l y , and then Adobe opened a little >> monologue box >> to inform me of an I/O error from the remote site, [OK]? OK, I guess. Pity. Odd, I downloaded several articles, including several on the 1956 Atlantic telephone cable, with no trouble at all. I'm on ordinary non-Bell telco DSL. R's, John
Date: Tue, 19 Oct 2010 20:24:26 -0600 From: "Fred Atkinson, WB4AEJ" <fred@remove-this.wb4aej.com> To: telecomdigestmoderator.remove-this@and-this-too.telecom-digest.org. Subject: Re: Happy anniversary cellphone! Message-ID: <20101020022418.34427.qmail@gal.iecc.com> >I seem to be seeing an increase in the numbers of motor vehicles >with amateur radio call sign plates around here in the Appleton, WI >area, too. You can get car plates with your call sign here in >Wisconsin, same as in many other states. > >I also know some hams in the area who are in their 20s (I am a >moderately active rail enthusiast and MANY railfans, especially >younger ones, are also licensed hams). > >I haven't yet taken the plunge into the ranks of licensed hams, >though, but very well might someday. If and when I do, I'll likely >limit myself to the VHF bands and not venture into the world of the >high-power AM bands. > >-- >___________________________________________ __ _______________ >Regards, | |\ __ > | | | | |\ >Michael G. Koerner May they | | | | | | rise again! >Appleton, Wisconsin USA | | | | | | >___________________________________________ | | | | | | _______________ > >***** Moderator's Note ***** Michael, and other hams that may be on T.D., You can get your call sign on a license plate in all fifty states and most U.S. territories. Most states charge very little for ham radio plates because it helps the police and other rescue workers identify their vehicles when they are assisting in emergency situations. Here in New Mexico, it is only an extra five dollars per year above your regular renewal rate. Check out http://www.arrl.org/amateur-license-plate-information Some of the links may be out of date. This is because DMVs sometimes their Web sites around and ARRL hasn't gotten the word about it. If the links don't work, go to the Web site of your local DMV and search on 'amateur radio plate', 'ham radio tag', etc.. If you find the right link, there is an email link near the top of the page that you can send them the corrected link. They'll update it. 73, Fred, WB4AEJ
Date: Tue, 19 Oct 2010 19:28:25 -0700 From: Thad Floryan <thad@thadlabs.com> To: telecomdigestmoderator.remove-this@and-this-too.telecom-digest.org. Subject: Re: Facebook in Privacy Breach Message-ID: <4CBE53C9.6010700@thadlabs.com> On 10/19/2010 11:02 AM, Steven wrote: > On 10/19/10 7:54 AM, Monty Solomon wrote: >> >> Facebook in Privacy Breach >> October 18, 2010 >> >> Many of the top applications on Facebook have been transmitting >> identifying information to Internet tracking and ad companies. Eighth >> in a series. >> >>

http://online.wsj.com/article/SB10001424052702304772804575558484075236968.html >> >> > What really pisses me off on this even if you did not use the apps, > because one of your friends did then they get your private data, I hope > some low life attorney takes them apart. I look askance at anyone who uses Fecebook, Twitter, etc. given the purpose of those sites (remembering that the user is the product and NOT the customer): Fecebook: http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?f=/g/a/2010/10/14/businessinsider-whats-missing-from-the-social-network.DTL http://www.businessinsider.com/how-facebook-was-founded-2010-3 http://www.businessinsider.com/how-mark-zuckerberg-hacked-into-the-harvard-crimson-2010-3 http://www.businessinsider.com/how-mark-zuckerberg-hacked-connectu-2010-3 Twitter: http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?f=/c/a/2010/08/22/MNP11EPMUB.DTL "TANSTAAFL" = There Ain't No Such Thing As A Free Lunch, from Robert Heinlein's "The Moon is a Harsh Mistress".


Date: Wed, 20 Oct 2010 00:43:53 -0400 From: "Bob Goudreau" <BobGoudreau@nc.rr.com> To: telecomdigestmoderator.remove-this@and-this-too.telecom-digest.org. Subject: Re: Verizon Wireless Offers iPad at Stores Nationwide on October 28 Message-ID: <7014A85DD1BF4B81831E1C14E266D816@meng.lab.emc.com> colin <colins@swiftdsl.com.au> wrote: >> Er, Bill, you do realize that the iPad is not a phone, but a tablet >> computer, right? Though I am amused at the mental image of you in a store >> holding a device the size of a National Geographic up to your ear, trying >> in vain to get it to put your phone call through... :-) > > Er, Bob, the iPad works just fine as a speakerphone with Skype: you can > connect a headset too if you need privacy. Geez, way to spoil the joke! You must be fun to have in the audience at comedy clubs :-). > ***** Moderator's Note ***** > > If it's offered by Verizon Wireless, it is, as far as I'm concerned, a > cell phone. It might be bigger than an Iphone, or smaller than a > building, but the fundamental paradigm of charging by the microsecond > and treating customers like cattle will remain, no matter if it's data > or voice that's being transmitted. What makes you think there is any time-based charging involved? Ipads sold by Verizon or AT&T are like the laptop dongles offered by all the wireless vendors, in that they require data plans (often with various monthly caps measured in bytes) in order to use the wireless telco's network. But there are no time-based costs such as "plan minutes" involved. Of course, the (cheaper) WiFi-only version of the iPad doesn't require any wireless plan at all if you don't have any need for a mobile hotspot. Bob Goudreau Cary, NC
Date: Wed, 20 Oct 2010 07:10:21 -0700 From: Thad Floryan <thad@thadlabs.com> To: telecomdigestmoderator.remove-this@and-this-too.telecom-digest.org. Subject: ACLU Net Neutrality report highly critical of FCC and business Message-ID: <4CBEF84D.7080009@thadlabs.com> Interesting report released yesterday (19-OCT-2010): http://www.aclu.org/files/assets/NetNeutrality_report_20101019.pdf 27 pages and 812KB. Following is an extract from Slashdot: " " "Freedom of expression isn't worth much if the forums " where people actually make use of it are not themselves " free. And the Internet is without doubt the primary place " where Americans exercise their right to free expression. " It's a newspaper, an entertainment medium, a reference " work, a therapist's office, a soapbox, a debating stand. " It is the closest thing ever invented to a true "free " market" of ideas." " " The report then goes on to argue that ISPs have incentive " and capability of interfering with internet traffic. And not " only that but the argument that it is only 'theoretical' " are bogus given they list ten high profile cases of it " actually happening. If the ACLU can successfully argue that " Net Neutrality is a First Amendment Issue then it might not " matter what businesses (who fall on either side of the issue) " want the government to do.
Date: Tue, 19 Oct 2010 20:51:40 -0700 From: Richard <rng@richbonnie.com> To: telecomdigestmoderator.remove-this@and-this-too.telecom-digest.org. Subject: Re: Happy anniversary cellphone! Message-ID: <dfosb61kpr9i5oae1vihfnrsmnm4e5aoc1@4ax.com> On Tue, 19 Oct 2010 02:59:37 -0500, "Michael G. Koerner" <mgk920@dataex.com> wrote: >***** Moderator's Note ***** > >Michael, > >Although it's still possible to use "high-power AM", and I sometimes >do, you're more likely to find Single-Sideband being used instead. > >SSB has been around long enough that reasonably-priced second-hand >rigs are easy to come by, and if your tastes include Morse code, you >can get very inexpensive "CW" rigs for next to nothing. > >We'll welcome you on any band you choose to use: you don't need to >limit yourself to any one mode, power, or frequency. Let me expand on "modes": Besides Morse code and phone (voice-modulated AM, FM, SSB), hams can and do use many other modes: Digital modes: We couple computers to transceivers, and send words and data digitally. Amateur Packet Radio was developed in the late 1970's and early 1980's by coupling early computers (Atari, Apple I, etc.) to 2-meter FM transmitters. Hams built a nation-wide digital network with email and bulletin board file systems years before the big Internet. Nowadays, this technology is used for emergency traffic on HF (short-wave) and VHF not only by hams but by the military's MARS system. RTTY (teletype) is an early digital mode. Nowadays, computer sound cards are used to generate and decode digital traffic in a multitude of modes. There are even specialized modes for communication using reflections from meteor trails which last for a second or two. Image modes: Fast-scan live TV (initially NSTC in the US, PAL in Europe; now digital) on frequencies above 420MHz. Slow-scan TV (similar to facsimile) on lower frequencies, particularly HF. We can use spread-spectrum. My hearing is bad: High-frequency roll-off about 1500 Hz, and nearly deaf in one ear due to an attack of Shingles. So I have great difficulty hearing phone transmission on HF or any high pitched voice, such as a child or women. But I have no trouble with digital modes. At Field Day, I run one of the the digital-communication stations. Dick AC7EL
Date: Tue, 19 Oct 2010 20:59:50 -0700 From: Richard <rng@richbonnie.com> To: telecomdigestmoderator.remove-this@and-this-too.telecom-digest.org. Subject: Re: Bell System Technical Journal Message-ID: <m6qsb6h3pif836fnmkrjqa8ermqjvemfrr@4ax.com> On Mon, 18 Oct 2010 22:48:38 -0400, tlvp <tPlOvUpBErLeLsEs@hotmail.com> wrote: >On Sun, 17 Oct 2010 21:44:26 -0400, Neal McLain <nmclain@annsgarden.com> >wrote: > >> Cross-posted from the TCI list: >> >> Alcatel-Lucent has made the complete set of back issues of "Bell System >> Technical Journal," 1922-1983, available online at >> http://bstj.bell-labs.com/ >> >> Neal McLain > >Had to look into that ... but I get a blank page, with complete HTML source >showing only as: > ><!DOCTYPE html PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 4.01 >Transitional//EN"><html><head><title></title></head><body></body></html> > >URL typo, perhaps? Cheers, -- tlvp I get the page to come up properly with the latest versions of Internet Explorer, Firefox and Safari. Dick
Date: Wed, 20 Oct 2010 00:12:16 -0500 From: rpw3@rpw3.org (Rob Warnock) To: telecomdigestmoderator.remove-this@and-this-too.telecom-digest.org. Subject: Re: Bell System Technical Journal Message-ID: <A-6dnZoXGryt5yPRnZ2dnUVZ_hOdnZ2d@speakeasy.net> tlvp <tPlOvUpBErLeLsEs@hotmail.com> wrote: +--------------- | Neal McLain <nmclain@annsgarden.com> wrote: | > Alcatel-Lucent has made the complete set of back issues of "Bell System | > Technical Journal," 1922-1983, available online at | > http://bstj.bell-labs.com/ | | Had to look into that ... but I get a blank page, with complete HTML source | showing only as: | | <!DOCTYPE html PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 4.01 | Transitional//EN"><html><head><title></title></head><body></body></html> | | URL typo, perhaps? Cheers, -- tlvp +--------------- No, I think it just got slashdotted for a while. It's back now... -Rob
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Date: Tue, 19 Oct 2010 21:08:41 -0700 From: Richard <rng@richbonnie.com> To: telecomdigestmoderator.remove-this@and-this-too.telecom-digest.org. Subject: Re: Bell System Technical Journal Message-ID: <1aqsb69rgh36j57s5tunujbte1llt11v5r@4ax.com> On Mon, 18 Oct 2010 15:42:12 -0700 (PDT), Lisa or Jeff <hancock4@bbs.cpcn.com> wrote: >On Oct 17, 9:44 pm, Neal McLain <nmcl...@annsgarden.com> wrote: > >> Alcatel-Lucent has made the complete set of back issues of "Bell System >> Technical Journal," 1922-1983, available online >athttp://bstj.bell-labs.com/ > >Thanks for sharing this good news with us. > >I only hope they put on the Bell Laboratories Record magazine. The >Technical Journal is not written for laymen, though the "Record" is. >The issues from the 1930s, 1940s, and 1950s are particularly >fascinating. I'd like to see that magazine online also. I was a coauthor of an article in the May 1974 edition, with my picture (boy, was I fat then!) on "The Authors" page at the end of the issue. The article described the 1A Radio Digital Terminals, a system to add one T1 digital stream to a broadband microwave FM Radio system, using unused baseband bandwith below that of the first analog voice circuit. Hence the nickname: Data Under Voice. Dick
Date: Wed, 20 Oct 2010 04:15:45 -0700 (PDT) From: Rudy Valencia <rudyvalencia@gmail.com> To: telecomdigestmoderator.remove-this@and-this-too.telecom-digest.org. Subject: Re: Please identify this hold music Message-ID: <51b86c28-0a64-42fb-b5cc-721b37b7b580@g18g2000yqk.googlegroups.com> On Oct 19, 7:40 pm, Thad Floryan <t...@thadlabs.com> wrote: > On 10/18/2010 6:16 PM, John Levine wrote: > > >> I'm trying to identify the hold music I recorded at > >>http://rudyvalencia.com/instrumental.mp3and I'm hoping the people > >> that read this could help. > > > It sounds like Spyro Gyra.  All their stuff sounds the same (good > > same, but the same nonetheless) so I can't tell you what it is. > > 'Tis funny, it sounds like something I've heard somewhere/someplace > but I couldn't identify it.  I sent it to a musician friend in Reno > who thought it was a TV or movie theme but, again, no ID.  He passed > it around to other musicians in Reno and both Spyro Gyro and The Pat > Metheny Group were returned as possibilities, but again no title ID. > > Was that clip, instrumental.mp3, only an extract?  Can the entire > piece be recorded? Have you asked whomever is using that music for > music on hold (MOH) for more info? > > When I setup a MOH for a client's Nortel PBX I asked my Reno friend > to assemble a collection of tunes whose arrangements were legally > freely available and I used those for the MOH. I had the complete list > of all selections with my friend being the performer -- he has a music > studio with Sibelius, etc. and a quad-Xeon Mac upon which he creates > music; he's 83 years old and both a composer and performer (weddings, > restaurants, even my "Star Parties" when he's in Silicon Valley). I asked about it when I recorded it, the person on the line at that time told me they didn't know. And that's pretty much all of it, I don't remember the place I recorded it from and it probably has changed since I recorded it. I've heard the longer version on several hotlines though - Microsoft comes to mind right away. Sorry I couldn't be any more help.
Rudy Valencia.
Date: Wed, 20 Oct 2010 08:56:36 -0700 (PDT) From: Tom Horne <hornetd@gmail.com> To: telecomdigestmoderator.remove-this@and-this-too.telecom-digest.org. Subject: Re: Facebook in Privacy Breach Message-ID: <9546e613-6fc2-4bd1-ac3e-28bcf4e95fb8@k22g2000yqh.googlegroups.com> On Oct 19, 2:02 pm, Steven <diespamm...@killspammers.com> wrote: > On 10/19/10 7:54 AM, Monty Solomon wrote: > > > Facebook in Privacy Breach > > October 18, 2010 > > > Many of the top applications on Facebook have been transmitting > > identifying information to Internet tracking and ad companies. Eighth > > in a series. > >http://online.wsj.com/article/SB10001424052702304772804575558484075236968.html > > What really pisses me off on this even if you did not use the apps, > because one of your friends did then they get your private data, I hope > some low life attorney takes them apart. > > -- > The only good spammer is a dead one!! Have you hunted one down today? > (c) 2010 I Kill Spammers, Inc. A Rot in Hell Co. Steven How is it that the attorney fighting to protect our right to privacy is a "low life." It is worth remembering that when the guy in the Shakespeare play says "The first thing we have to do is kill all the Lawyers" that he is part of a conspiracy to take away the peoples rights. My preferred version of the crayfish and lawyer story is that when your in hot water up to your eyeballs the Crayfish will crawl out and the lawyer will jump right in and take his chances with you. No I'm not a lawyer nor do I play one on public access cable television. -- Tom Horne
Date: Mon, 18 Oct 2010 10:45:38 -0700 From: Richard <rng@richbonnie.com> To: telecomdigestmoderator.remove-this@and-this-too.telecom-digest.org. Subject: California Town Gets Phone Service for First Time in History Message-ID: <pq1pb6teii52gtkqrolotatl3fdn2040lu@4ax.com> http://www.foxnews.com/us/2010/10/18/california-town-gets-phone-service-time-history/ California Town Gets Phone Service for First Time in History > The roughly 200 full-time residents in Iowa Hill, Calif. -- 58 miles > northeast of Sacramento -- finally got a dial tone last week. Up to now, all they had was very spotty cell service.
Date: Wed, 20 Oct 2010 13:32:33 -0400 From: Monty Solomon <monty@roscom.com> To: telecomdigestmoderator.remove-this@and-this-too.telecom-digest.org. Subject: Texting Trends & Human Contact Message-ID: <p0624080cc8e4d7bc49eb@[10.0.1.8]> Texting Trends & Human Contact On Point with Tom Ashbrook WBUR and NPR October 19, 2010 Talking on the phone is quaint. Land lines being cut. We look at the high speed evolution of American communication. Here's the news you may already have heard by text message: talking on the telephone is headed out. After a century of communication supremacy, the phone and yakking on it are now so yesterday. Texting is taking over. Minutes on the phone, talking, is headed down. The number of text messages per day, per month, per minute, is exploding. And it's not just a technology change. The rising generation isn't talking on the phone. It's texting. And those are very different human interactions. Efficiency is up. But nuance is, maybe, down. And a lot is in play. -Tom Ashbrook Guests: Katherine Rosman, reporter for the Wall Street Journal and author of the article, "The Texting Revolution is Here." She's also author of "If You Knew Suzy: A Mother, A Daughter, A Reporter's Notebook." Naomi Baron, professor of linguistics at American University. She's author of "Always on: Language in an Online and Mobile World." Lee Rainie, director of the Pew Internet and American Life Project. http://www.onpointradio.org/2010/10/texting-human-contact http://www.onpointradio.org/media-player?url=http://www.onpointradio.org/2010/10/texting-human-contact&title=Texting+Trends+%26%23038%3B+Human+Contact&pubdate=2010-10-19&segment=2
Date: Wed, 20 Oct 2010 15:08:58 -0400 From: Monty Solomon <monty@roscom.com> To: telecomdigestmoderator.remove-this@and-this-too.telecom-digest.org. Subject: Apple Brings FaceTime to the Mac Message-ID: <p06240810c8e4ee358e31@[10.0.1.8]> Apple Brings FaceTime to the Mac Macs Can Video Call Over 19 Million iPhone 4 & iPod touch Users CUPERTINO, California-October 20, 2010-Apple today announced the public beta of FaceTime for Mac, an entirely new application that allows Mac users to video call iPhone 4 and iPod touch* users as well as other Macs. Featuring an easy to use interface, FaceTime for Mac automatically uses your Address Book contacts so there's no need to create special buddy lists, and it works seamlessly with the built-in camera and mic on Mac notebooks, iMac and Apple LED Cinema Displays. ... http://www.apple.com/pr/library/2010/10/20facetime.html
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