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Date: Sun, 17 Oct 2010 00:26:21 -0400
From: Monty Solomon <monty@roscom.com>
To: telecomdigestmoderator.remove-this@and-this-too.telecom-digest.org.
Subject: EPIC Alert 17.20
Message-ID: <p06240854c8e02a8ac2de@[192.168.180.230]>
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E P I C A l e r t
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Volume 17.20 October 14, 2010
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Published by the
Electronic Privacy Information Center (EPIC)
Washington, D.C.
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Table of Contents
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[1] Supreme Court to Examine Personal Privacy Rights of Corporations
[2] EPIC Seeks Details on New Government Crypto Regulations
[3] Senate Considers Data Security and Breach Notification Bill
[4] EPIC Submits Comments on Foreign Intelligence Surveillance Court
[5] Federal Court Protects Innocent Targets of Government Surveillance
[6] News in Brief
[7] EPIC Book Review: "Keeping Faith with the Constitution"
[8] Upcoming Conferences and Events
...
http://www.epic.org/alert/epic_alert_1720.htmlhttp://www.epic.org/alert/epic_alert_1720.html
Date: Mon, 18 Oct 2010 08:20:52 -0400
From: Monty Solomon <monty@roscom.com>
To: telecomdigestmoderator.remove-this@and-this-too.telecom-digest.org.
Subject: Will Apple's Culture Hurt the iPhone?
Message-ID: <p0624087bc8e1e81c82fc@[192.168.180.230]>
Will Apple's Culture Hurt the iPhone?
By MIGUEL HELFT
October 17, 2010
SAN FRANCISCO - If you want a smartphone powered by Google's Android
software, you could get Motorola's Droid 2 or its cousin, the Droid
X. Then there is the Droid Incredible from HTC, the Fascinate from
Samsung and the Ally from LG.
That's just on Verizon Wireless. An additional 20 or so phones
running Android are available in the United States, and there are
about 90 worldwide.
But if your preference is an Apple-powered phone, you can buy - an iPhone.
That very short list explains in part why, for all its success in the
phone business, Apple suddenly has a real fight on its hands.
Americans now are buying more Android phones than iPhones. If that
trend continues, analysts say that in little more than a year,
Android will have erased the iPhone's once enormous lead in the high
end of the smartphone market.
But this is not the first time Apple has found itself in this kind of
fight, where its flagship product is under siege from a loose
alliance of rivals selling dozens of competing gadgets.
In the early 1980s, the Macintosh faced an onslaught of competition
from an army of PC makers whose products ran Microsoft software. The
fight did not end well for Apple. In a few years, Microsoft all but
sidelined Apple, and the company almost went out of business.
Can Apple, which insists on tight control of its devices, win in an
intensely competitive market against rivals that are openly licensing
their software to scores of companies? It faces that challenge not
only in phones, but also in the market for tablet computers, where
the iPad is about to take on a similar set of rivals.
...
http://www.nytimes.com/2010/10/18/technology/18apple.html
Date: Tue, 19 Oct 2010 11:08:46 -0700
From: Steven <diespammers@killspammers.com>
To: telecomdigestmoderator.remove-this@and-this-too.telecom-digest.org.
Subject: Re: Will Apple's Culture Hurt the iPhone?
Message-ID: <i9kmrg$8ov$1@news.eternal-september.org>
On 10/18/10 5:20 AM, Monty Solomon wrote:
>
> Will Apple's Culture Hurt the iPhone?
>
> By MIGUEL HELFT
> October 17, 2010
>
> SAN FRANCISCO - If you want a smartphone powered by Google's Android
> software, you could get Motorola's Droid 2 or its cousin, the Droid
> X. Then there is the Droid Incredible from HTC, the Fascinate from
> Samsung and the Ally from LG.
>
> That's just on Verizon Wireless. An additional 20 or so phones
> running Android are available in the United States, and there are
> about 90 worldwide.
>
> But if your preference is an Apple-powered phone, you can buy - an iPhone.
>
> That very short list explains in part why, for all its success in the
> phone business, Apple suddenly has a real fight on its hands.
>
> Americans now are buying more Android phones than iPhones. If that
> trend continues, analysts say that in little more than a year,
> Android will have erased the iPhone's once enormous lead in the high
> end of the smartphone market.
>
> But this is not the first time Apple has found itself in this kind of
> fight, where its flagship product is under siege from a loose
> alliance of rivals selling dozens of competing gadgets.
>
> In the early 1980s, the Macintosh faced an onslaught of competition
> from an army of PC makers whose products ran Microsoft software. The
> fight did not end well for Apple. In a few years, Microsoft all but
> sidelined Apple, and the company almost went out of business.
>
> Can Apple, which insists on tight control of its devices, win in an
> intensely competitive market against rivals that are openly licensing
> their software to scores of companies? It faces that challenge not
> only in phones, but also in the market for tablet computers, where
> the iPad is about to take on a similar set of rivals.
>
> ...
>
> http://www.nytimes.com/2010/10/18/technology/18apple.html
>
>
The major reason Apple is not as huge as it could be in the computer
world is because of tight controls, this goes back to the Apple II
computers, they allowed some clones, but then pulled them back same went
for the Macs.
--
The only good spammer is a dead one!! Have you hunted one down today?
(c) 2010 I Kill Spammers, Inc. A Rot in Hell Co.
Date: Mon, 18 Oct 2010 12:09:03 -0700
From: Thad Floryan <thad@thadlabs.com>
To: telecomdigestmoderator.remove-this@and-this-too.telecom-digest.org.
Subject: Great Britain and Northern Ireland apparently going VoIP-only
Message-ID: <4CBC9B4F.7000700@thadlabs.com>
Unless I'm misinterpreting a lot of the marketing gobbledegook (words
that say nothing), it appears the UK via British Telecom is abandoning
its legacy telephony infrastructure and rolling-out a digital VoIP-only
replacement as quickly as possible.
Even re-reading some of these pages leaves me wondering "WTF?!". Does
anyone following this group have a better understanding of what is
really happening with BT in the UK and can share it with us?
Here are several of the pages:
http://www.btplc.com/21CN/WhatisBTsaying/QandA/ImplementationQandA/implementation.htm
http://www.btplc.com/21CN/Thetechnologyofthenetwork/Thetechnologyofthenetwork.htm
http://www.btplc.com/21CN/Theroadto21CN/Theroadto21CN.htm
which are aggregations of meaningless weasel words. Even this page:
http://www.btplc.com/21CN/Thetechnologyofthenetwork/21CNtechnologyglobally/21CNglobalharmonisation.htm
discusses NOTHING about the technology of BT's "21CN" which they claim
they've already implemented in 172 countries.
Color me confused and perplexed. :-)
P.S.: That 172 countries had me wondering, so I Googled a simple request
per "how many countries in the world" and it looks like it's between 189
and 195, inclusive, depending on a number of factors which, though quite
interesting, are off-topic here.
Date: Tue, 19 Oct 2010 22:17:40 +0100
From: Stephen <stephen_hope@xyzworld.com>
To: telecomdigestmoderator.remove-this@and-this-too.telecom-digest.org.
Subject: Re: Great Britain and Northern Ireland apparently going VoIP-only
Message-ID: <982sb6trp3neagd6p5bnli5mldgmegp1et@4ax.com>
On Mon, 18 Oct 2010 12:09:03 -0700, Thad Floryan <thad@thadlabs.com>
wrote:
>Unless I'm misinterpreting a lot of the marketing gobbledegook (words
>that say nothing), it appears the UK via British Telecom is abandoning
>its legacy telephony infrastructure and rolling-out a digital VoIP-only
>replacement as quickly as possible.
>
i think they are confusing the rollout of their latest broadband
flavours and the bits of 21CN that move copper phones lines to IP
backhaul
the telephony bits of 21CN are about keeping the copper phone last
mile access, but replacing conventional phone switches with an IP
Telephony core for PSTN
better broadband and FTTH / FTTC ar a side effect of that rollout, but
probably the only service improvement visible to customers - the IPT
stuff is for BT's benefit to reduce the phone network operating cost.
progress
http://www.btplc.com/21CN/Theroadto21CN/Keymilestones/Keymilestones.htm
Note the 75000 users in Wales have migrated - but they wer supposed to
be past that at least 2 or 3 years ago.
I make that less than 1% of the lines in the UK.....
>Even re-reading some of these pages leaves me wondering "WTF?!". Does
>anyone following this group have a better understanding of what is
>really happening with BT in the UK and can share it with us?
>
from your Q and A link:
<snip>
n 2006 BT began migrations of phone services on to 21CN platforms at
local exchanges in South Wales with the aim to migrate all exchanges
nationally over the next five years. Those plans to mass migrate phone
lines to 21CN have now been superseded as the attention turns to other
services including the deployment of fibre optic based services.
Consequently as there are no further mass migrations of phone services
from the existing phone network planned, there is now no further need
to communicate with end users about these migrations. As a result the
campaign has now been closed.
</snip>
which sounds like phone migration is on hold - given the hassle it
generated i am not surprised......
>Here are several of the pages:
>
>http://www.btplc.com/21CN/WhatisBTsaying/QandA/ImplementationQandA/implementation.htm
>
>http://www.btplc.com/21CN/Thetechnologyofthenetwork/Thetechnologyofthenetwork.htm
>
>http://www.btplc.com/21CN/Theroadto21CN/Theroadto21CN.htm
>
>which are aggregations of meaningless weasel words. Even this page:
>
>http://www.btplc.com/21CN/Thetechnologyofthenetwork/21CNtechnologyglobally/21CNglobalharmonisation.htm
>
>discusses NOTHING about the technology of BT's "21CN" which they claim
>they've already implemented in 172 countries.
>
>Color me confused and perplexed. :-)
>
>P.S.: That 172 countries had me wondering, so I Googled a simple request
>per "how many countries in the world" and it looks like it's between 189
>and 195, inclusive, depending on a number of factors which, though quite
>interesting, are off-topic here.
--
Regards
stephen_hope@xyzworld.com - replace xyz with ntl
Date: Tue, 19 Oct 2010 02:59:37 -0500
From: "Michael G. Koerner" <mgk920@dataex.com>
To: telecomdigestmoderator.remove-this@and-this-too.telecom-digest.org.
Subject: Re: Happy anniversary cellphone!
Message-ID: <7fCdnVT1ZJR-0iDRnZ2dnUVZ_j-dnZ2d@ntd.net>
On 2010.10.17 12:05:54, Richard wrote:
>> ***** Moderator's Note *****
>>
>> I think Ham Radio will regain much of the popularity it once held:
>> with the Internet now little more than an advertising channel where
>> even the most trivial of ftp tasks has been dumbed down to the point
>> that even football jocks can have a facetube page,
>> technically-inclined youth will, once again, turn to the airwaves.
>>
>> Bill Horne
>> Moderator
>
> I think you are correct, Bill. I am the leader of the Amateur Radio
> exam team in my small town of Pahrump, NV, (35,000 population) halfway
> between Las Vegas, NV and Death Valley, CA. Last spring we were
> getting 10 to 13 candidates at our every-other-month exam sessions,
> vs. 2 or 3 candidates in the previous years. About a third have been
> young people. The Las Vegas exam team has been seeing similar
> increases in numbers.
>
> The numbers have slackened off this summer, to 2 to 4 per session. But
> that's because it's so hot here in the summer (110 degres F), that
> many people go north to Montana and Idaho, returning in the autumn. We
> call them Snowbirds. I expect that this winter we will get large
> numbers of candidates again.
>
> Of course, we help things along with study programs, in January for
> those who want an entry-level license, and in February for those who
> want to upgrade to the General Class license.
I seem to be seeing an increase in the numbers of motor vehicles with amateur
radio call sign plates around here in the Appleton, WI area, too. You can get
car plates with your call sign here in Wisconsin, same as in many other states.
I also know some hams in the area who are in their 20s (I am a moderately
active rail enthusiast and MANY railfans, especially younger ones, are also
licensed hams).
I haven't yet taken the plunge into the ranks of licensed hams, though, but
very well might someday. If and when I do, I'll likely limit myself to the
VHF bands and not venture into the world of the high-power AM bands.
--
___________________________________________ __ _______________
Regards, | |\ __
| | | | |\
Michael G. Koerner May they | | | | | | rise again!
Appleton, Wisconsin USA | | | | | |
___________________________________________ | | | | | | _______________
***** Moderator's Note *****
Michael,
Although it's still possible to use "high-power AM", and I sometimes
do, you're more likely to find Single-Sideband being used instead.
SSB has been around long enough that reasonably-priced second-hand
rigs are easy to come by, and if your tastes include Morse code, you
can get very inexpensive "CW" rigs for next to nothing.
We'll welcome you on any band you choose to use: you don't need to
limit yourself to any one mode, power, or frequency.
Bill Horne
Moderator
Date: Tue, 19 Oct 2010 10:54:13 -0400
From: Monty Solomon <monty@roscom.com>
To: telecomdigestmoderator.remove-this@and-this-too.telecom-digest.org.
Subject: Facebook in Privacy Breach
Message-ID: <p0624089cc8e36150e20b@[192.168.180.230]>
Facebook in Privacy Breach
October 18, 2010
Many of the top applications on Facebook have been transmitting
identifying information to Internet tracking and ad companies. Eighth
in a series.
http://online.wsj.com/article/SB10001424052702304772804575558484075236968.html
Date: Tue, 19 Oct 2010 11:02:05 -0700
From: Steven <diespammers@killspammers.com>
To: telecomdigestmoderator.remove-this@and-this-too.telecom-digest.org.
Subject: Re: Facebook in Privacy Breach
Message-ID: <i9kmes$6fh$1@news.eternal-september.org>
On 10/19/10 7:54 AM, Monty Solomon wrote:
>
> Facebook in Privacy Breach
> October 18, 2010
>
> Many of the top applications on Facebook have been transmitting
> identifying information to Internet tracking and ad companies. Eighth
> in a series.
>
> http://online.wsj.com/article/SB10001424052702304772804575558484075236968.html
>
What really pisses me off on this even if you did not use the apps,
because one of your friends did then they get your private data, I hope
some low life attorney takes them apart.
--
The only good spammer is a dead one!! Have you hunted one down today?
(c) 2010 I Kill Spammers, Inc. A Rot in Hell Co.
Date: 19 Oct 2010 01:16:35 -0000
From: John Levine <johnl@iecc.com>
To: telecomdigestmoderator.remove-this@and-this-too.telecom-digest.org.
Subject: Re: Please identify this hold music
Message-ID: <20101019011635.92702.qmail@joyce.lan>
>I'm trying to identify the hold music I recorded at
>http://rudyvalencia.com/instrumental.mp3 and I'm hoping the people
>that read this could help.
It sounds like Spyro Gyra. All their stuff sounds the same (good
same, but the same nonetheless) so I can't tell you what it is.
R's,
John
Date: Tue, 19 Oct 2010 18:40:09 -0700
From: Thad Floryan <thad@thadlabs.com>
To: telecomdigestmoderator.remove-this@and-this-too.telecom-digest.org.
Subject: Re: Please identify this hold music
Message-ID: <4CBE4879.6050400@thadlabs.com>
On 10/18/2010 6:16 PM, John Levine wrote:
>> I'm trying to identify the hold music I recorded at
>> http://rudyvalencia.com/instrumental.mp3 and I'm hoping the people
>> that read this could help.
>
> It sounds like Spyro Gyra. All their stuff sounds the same (good
> same, but the same nonetheless) so I can't tell you what it is.
'Tis funny, it sounds like something I've heard somewhere/someplace
but I couldn't identify it. I sent it to a musician friend in Reno
who thought it was a TV or movie theme but, again, no ID. He passed
it around to other musicians in Reno and both Spyro Gyro and The Pat
Metheny Group were returned as possibilities, but again no title ID.
Was that clip, instrumental.mp3, only an extract? Can the entire
piece be recorded? Have you asked whomever is using that music for
music on hold (MOH) for more info?
When I setup a MOH for a client's Nortel PBX I asked my Reno friend
to assemble a collection of tunes whose arrangements were legally
freely available and I used those for the MOH. I had the complete list
of all selections with my friend being the performer -- he has a music
studio with Sibelius, etc. and a quad-Xeon Mac upon which he creates
music; he's 83 years old and both a composer and performer (weddings,
restaurants, even my "Star Parties" when he's in Silicon Valley).
Date: Tue, 19 Oct 2010 18:46:40 +0000 (UTC)
From: Paul <pssawyer@comcast.net.INVALID>
To: telecomdigestmoderator.remove-this@and-this-too.telecom-digest.org.
Subject: Re: Please identify this hold music
Message-ID: <Xns9E169655CEFC5Senex@188.40.43.230>
John Levine <johnl@iecc.com> wrote in
news:20101019011635.92702.qmail@joyce.lan:
>>I'm trying to identify the hold music I recorded at
>>http://rudyvalencia.com/instrumental.mp3 and I'm hoping the people
>>that read this could help.
>
> It sounds like Spyro Gyra. All their stuff sounds the same (good
> same, but the same nonetheless) so I can't tell you what it is.
>
> R's,
> John
>
>
There's an app for that:
http://www.ehow.com/how_2238363_identify-songs-iphone.html
(or so they tell me)
--
Paul
Date: Tue, 19 Oct 2010 18:47:34 -0700 (PDT)
From: Rudy Valencia <rudyvalencia@gmail.com>
To: telecomdigestmoderator.remove-this@and-this-too.telecom-digest.org.
Subject: Re: Please identify this hold music
Message-ID: <393d37fa-d77c-42ae-8e4d-46867e417148@26g2000yqv.googlegroups.com>
On Oct 18, 7:16 pm, John Levine <jo...@iecc.com> wrote:
> >I'm trying to identify the hold music I recorded at
> >http://rudyvalencia.com/instrumental.mp3and I'm hoping the people
> >that read this could help.
>
> It sounds like Spyro Gyra. All their stuff sounds the same (good
> same, but the same nonetheless) so I can't tell you what it is.
>
> R's,
> John
I checked under Spyro Gyra in Rhapsody. This file sounds similar, but
isn't by them.
Rudy Valencia.
Date: Mon, 18 Oct 2010 09:25:06 -0700
From: Richard <rng@richbonnie.com>
To: telecomdigestmoderator.remove-this@and-this-too.telecom-digest.org.
Subject: Re: Uptick in do-not-call violations
Message-ID: <dqsob652dtt3afc35eno8p3a57qsq74d64@4ax.com>
On Sun, 17 Oct 2010 16:06:54 -0400, "Bob Goudreau"
<BobGoudreau@nc.rr.com> wrote:
>Richard Bonnie wrote:
>
>> Obtelecom (in a way): Several years ago, while reviewing my credit
>> card charges online, I spotted a $25 charge for Internet service in
>> Leningrad, Russia. When I reported it, Citi agreed that it had to be
>> bogus, and that my card had been compromised.
>
>I'm surprised that you even had to complain in order for Citi to deem it
>fraudulent. The dodgy charge location information alone should have been
>sufficient for them to spot it as bogus. The country of Russia (either the
>prerevolutionary empire or the post-Soviet Russian Federation) has never
>contained a city named Leningrad, a name which was applied to the city only
>during (most of) the era when it was part of the Soviet Union. The city's
>name was restored to St. Petersburg before the USSR dissolved.
>
>The current Russian Federation does contain an oblast (province) still named
>Leningrad, which borders but does not include the city of St. Petersburg.
>However, I would be surprised to see such a nonspecific location on a credit
>card bill's charge detail -- "Leningrad, Russia" is analogous to "Texas,
>USA", "Manitoba, Canada" or "Bayern (Bavaria), Germany", in that it
>identifies only a broad geographical area within a country instead of a
>specific city in that area.
>
>Bob Goudreau
>Cary, NC
>
There was no indication of location on the credit card charge. Just a
URL with a .com suffix. I ran a Whois search on the URL, and learned
what it was. This was in the year 2000, or so.
Was it Leningrad? Or St. Peersburg? I don't remember exactly. All I
remember was that it was an ISP located in a northwestern city of
Russia.
Dick
Date: Mon, 18 Oct 2010 09:49:01 -0700
From: Richard <rng@richbonnie.com>
To: telecomdigestmoderator.remove-this@and-this-too.telecom-digest.org.
Subject: Re: XM Radio and Sirius merger
Message-ID: <f3uob655i58dn6ieg18p23i4d1l6jfokdv@4ax.com>
On Mon, 18 Oct 2010 07:57:24 -0500, Neal McLain
<nmclain@annsgarden.com> wrote:
>The Tundra Orbit is an even longer haul. Which means that a Sirius
>satellite, when over North America, is farther from earth than an XM
>satellite. But, as I noted above, the elevation angle is higher which
>reduces potential signal blockage from mountains and tall buildings.
Both XM and Sirius use ground based repeaters in metro areas to combat
blockage from buildings, so that you get continuous coverage as you
drive through these concrete canyons. Also the repeater power output
is high enough to penerate building walls, so if you have one of these
radios inside you don't need an outside antenna.
http://www.xm411.com/phpbb/viewtopic.php?t=616
http://www.sirius.com/servlet/ContentServer?pagename=Sirius/CachedPage&c=FlexContent&cid=1180555415601
Dick
Date: Mon, 18 Oct 2010 18:25:35 +0000 (UTC)
From: David Lesher <wb8foz@panix.com>
To: telecomdigestmoderator.remove-this@and-this-too.telecom-digest.org.
Subject: Hoot & Holler Re: Happy anniversary cellphone!
Message-ID: <i9i3ev$igf$1@reader1.panix.com>
> BTW, the circuit you're thinking of is called a "Hoot 'n Holler".
"Front clip for a '68 T-Bird.... Need a front clip for a 68 T-Bird"
The junkyards all used to be on Hoot'nHoller loops, with some
simple pricing mnemonic so the customer could not hear what the
wholesale price was.
These were 4-wire multidrop loops, with a WE107 speaker and a
500 set you picked up to talk.
--
A host is a host from coast to coast.................wb8foz@nrk.com
& no one will talk to a host that's close........[v].(301) 56-LINUX
Unless the host (that isn't close).........................pob 1433
is busy, hung or dead....................................20915-1433
Date: Mon, 18 Oct 2010 15:42:12 -0700 (PDT)
From: Lisa or Jeff <hancock4@bbs.cpcn.com>
To: telecomdigestmoderator.remove-this@and-this-too.telecom-digest.org.
Subject: Re: Bell System Technical Journal
Message-ID: <7d581473-3878-44cf-b77e-4e0e6629f498@h7g2000yqn.googlegroups.com>
On Oct 17, 9:44 pm, Neal McLain <nmcl...@annsgarden.com> wrote:
> Alcatel-Lucent has made the complete set of back issues of "Bell System
> Technical Journal," 1922-1983, available online
athttp://bstj.bell-labs.com/
Thanks for sharing this good news with us.
I only hope they put on the Bell Laboratories Record magazine. The
Technical Journal is not written for laymen, though the "Record" is.
The issues from the 1930s, 1940s, and 1950s are particularly
fascinating.
Date: Mon, 18 Oct 2010 22:48:38 -0400
From: tlvp <tPlOvUpBErLeLsEs@hotmail.com>
To: telecomdigestmoderator.remove-this@and-this-too.telecom-digest.org.
Subject: Re: Bell System Technical Journal
Message-ID: <op.vksx3ckfitl47o@acer250.gateway.2wire.net>
On Sun, 17 Oct 2010 21:44:26 -0400, Neal McLain <nmclain@annsgarden.com>
wrote:
> Cross-posted from the TCI list:
>
> Alcatel-Lucent has made the complete set of back issues of "Bell System
> Technical Journal," 1922-1983, available online at
> http://bstj.bell-labs.com/
>
> Neal McLain
Had to look into that ... but I get a blank page, with complete HTML source
showing only as:
<!DOCTYPE html PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 4.01
Transitional//EN"><html><head><title></title></head><body></body></html>
URL typo, perhaps? Cheers, -- tlvp
--
Avant de repondre, jeter la poubelle, SVP
Date: Mon, 18 Oct 2010 23:24:33 -0400
From: tlvp <tPlOvUpBErLeLsEs@hotmail.com>
To: telecomdigestmoderator.remove-this@and-this-too.telecom-digest.org.
Subject: Re: Bell System Technical Journal
Message-ID: <op.vkszq72citl47o@acer250.gateway.2wire.net>
On Mon, 18 Oct 2010 05:08:03 -0400, Thad Floryan <thad@thadlabs.com> wrote:
> On 10/17/2010 6:44 PM, Neal McLain wrote:
>> http://bstj.bell-labs.com/
>
> Fantastic! And every article is an individual PDF!
>
> *HOWEVER*, http://bstj.bell-labs.com/ must be the endpoint of a T1 or,
> perhaps, a 56K modem or even some tin cans connected by string ...
> ...
> Traceroutes (from here, Silicon Valley) are fine until *.NYC8.ALTER.NET
> and then bog down incredibly at lucent-gw.customer.alter.net beyond which
> is a maze of twisty little passages, all alike, with hollow echoes. :-)
Heh ... trying traceroute from here leads, after lucent-gw.customer.alter.net
(at [63.111.127.186]) only to [0.0.0.0] = [MyOwnComputerName]. 'Zat what you
call "a maze of twisty little passages, all alike, with hollow echoes"?
> ... http://bstj.bell-labs.com/BSTJ/images/Vol31/bstj31-6-1121.pdf
That started to come in, s l o w l y , and then Adobe opened a little monologue box
to inform me of an I/O error from the remote site, [OK]? OK, I guess. Pity.
Cheers, -- tlvp
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