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Volume 29 : Issue 82 : "text" Format
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Tabletop Telephone Company
more on school laptop webcame issue
Re: Walmart changing phone system after abuse
Re: Worldwide weekend of free WiFi with Skype Access
Re: Mississippi makes Caller ID spoofing illegal
Re:Tabletop Telephone Company
Re:Tabletop Telephone Company
Providers for sequential or rollover ringing of specified lines from one number
Re: Providers for sequential or rollover ringing of specified lines from one number
Re:Tabletop Telephone Company
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Date: Mon, 22 Mar 2010 07:47:29 -0700
From: Sam Spade <sam@coldmail.com>
To: telecomdigestmoderator.remove-this@and-this-too.telecom-digest.org.
Subject:Tabletop Telephone Company
Message-ID: <5qLpn.1672$EE6.861@newsfe23.iad>
In April my wife and I are spending a night at a great B&B in an
isolated small Arizona town called AJO.
I've been there twice before, but never checked out the local LEC. It
is Tabletop Telephone Company. They serve four other small, isolated
Arizona towns.
Ajo is in NPA 520, the other four are in NPA 928:
Seligman and Sanders on Interstate 40
Bagdad, an isolated copper mining town well west of Prescott
Aguila, a wide spot on a two-line highway well west of Wickenburg.
The drive to cover these five wire centers is gigantic. The towns must
very in size from 300 to 900 people. Ajo might top 1,000...barely.
The amazing fact is each town has a 5ESS switch. I didn't think the
economy of scale would make a 5ESS viable for such small towns.
Interesting, too, is that the Calling Guide doesn't list the tandem for
any of these switches.
Ajo 520-387
Seligman 928-422
Bagdad 928-633
Aguila 928-685
Sanders 928-688
Date: Mon, 22 Mar 2010 07:09:24 -0700 (PDT)
From: hancock4@bbs.cpcn.com
To: telecomdigestmoderator.remove-this@and-this-too.telecom-digest.org.
Subject: more on school laptop webcame issue
Message-ID: <f38e6ee6-6e17-45c8-99ba-28c54f0639b3@f8g2000yqn.googlegroups.com>
The Philadelphia Inqr had a long detailed article providing new
details about the laptops with webcams allegedly used to spy on
innocent students. The cameras were deployed to locate lost or stolen
laptops. A family has filed a lawsuit over the issue.
For full article please see:
http://www.philly.com/philly/education/88748377.html
Note that other families in the school district are opposed to the
lawsuit. They don't want the webcams to be used, but feel a lawsuit
would be a waste of their tax dollars and not the correct way to
handle the situation.
For article please see:
http://www.philly.com/philly/wires/ap/news/state/pennsylvania/88440707.html
Date: Mon, 22 Mar 2010 04:14:10 -0400
From: Barry Margolin <barmar@alum.mit.edu>
To: telecomdigestmoderator.remove-this@and-this-too.telecom-digest.org.
Subject: Re: Walmart changing phone system after abuse
Message-ID: <barmar-179F60.04141022032010@news.eternal-september.org>
In article
<317de4ef-9a9d-4097-9abc-cd4b10e1cc59@a16g2000pre.googlegroups.com>,
SVU <brad.houser@gmail.com> wrote:
> On Mar 20, 9:35 am, Barry Margolin <bar...@alum.mit.edu> wrote:
>
> > Presumably the change is something modern like requiring a PIN to be
> > entered.
>
> PINs can be learned, just like extension numbers.
>
> I used to work at a company that had this, and the abuse came in the
> form of inappropriate names: "Jack Mehoff, paging Jack Mehoff. Please
> call..." etc.
>
> The fix was all calls to the paging number went through a person.
By the name of Moe the Bartender, perhaps?
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Barry Margolin, barmar@alum.mit.edu
Arlington, MA
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Date: Mon, 22 Mar 2010 07:50:47 -0700 (PDT)
From: SVU <brad.houser@gmail.com>
To: telecomdigestmoderator.remove-this@and-this-too.telecom-digest.org.
Subject: Re: Worldwide weekend of free WiFi with Skype Access
Message-ID: <77ae5c2f-d5c9-40dc-8578-c7b7250cb366@a37g2000prd.googlegroups.com>
On Mar 20, 5:06 pm, danny burstein <dan...@panix.com> wrote:
> In <20100320175730.74190.qm...@simone.iecc.com> John Levine <jo...@iecc.com>
writes:
>
>> Telecom Digest Moderator wrote:
>>> Skype is, as I understand it, an outlier on the VoIP competition
>>> curve. Rather than resort to OEM solutions (Vonage), or
>>> purpose-built >>>hardware (MagicJack), it let's users employ PC's
>>> for VoIP. To me, that >>>implies that Skype has aimed at the
>>> "early adopter" market, but I'm >>>not sure it's a viable business
>>> model in the long term. Opinions?
>> You can get Skype wifi phones that look similar to normal cordless
>> phones. I know people who use them as their primary phones.
> Including.... the original, pre-Apple, "Iphone". Yes, childrrrrn,
> before Apple came out with their unit, Cisco (which had and has a
> very serious line of corporate and backbone/enterprise level
> voice-over-IP-offerings) dabbled in the consumer market with a Skype
> optimized 802.11 ("wifi") phone. Led to some ugly court battles when
> Apple first prepared its phone for the market.
> Mine works fine... with the annoying glitch that, while it can hook
> up to password protected bases, it can't handle the "splash screens"
> that some utilize.
I have the Skype Linksys (part of Cisco now) CIT200 iPhone, and while
being cordless, its base connects to my PC through USB.
Brad H
Date: Mon, 22 Mar 2010 03:10:25 -0400 (EDT)
From: Dan Lanciani <ddl@danlan.com>
To: telecomdigestmoderator.remove-this@and-this-too.telecom-digest.org.
Subject: Re: Mississippi makes Caller ID spoofing illegal
Message-ID: <201003220710.DAA15498@ss10.danlan.com>
bonomi@host122.r-bonomi.com (Robert Bonomi) wrote:
|>On Fri, 19 Mar 2010 18:35:16 -0400, John Levine <johnl@iecc.com> wrote:
|>
|>
|>Interesting: here in former SNET land, inbound calls from Poland to
|>our land-line never show any CLID, but inbound calls to our
|>cell-phones always *do*.
|
|Is there any possibility of STUPID caller-id CPE on the land-line?
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|One that only understands NANP format numbers -- and chokes, and therefore
|doesn't display anything, when confronted with something 'foreign'?
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|In years past, I've encountered a lot of budget CPE gear that was very
|US-centric.
What about stupid land-line switch (or perhaps "helpful" programming)?
I have some phones set up in an internal VOIP system. The number of
one such phone is "2". I can dial out to the PSTN via a VOIP gateway
service. When I call my POTS land line from "2" the caller ID is
out-of-area. I always assumed that either the gateway doesn't trust
me or the network doesn't trust the gateway. One day for some reason
I called my ISDN land line from "2" and was surprised to see "2" come
through as the caller id. I temporarily changed the station name of
"2" to something that looked like a normal 10-digit US phone number and
sure enough it showed up on my POTS land line caller ID. I suppose this
is all illegal now, at least in Mississippi. :)
Dan Lanciani
ddl@danlan.*com
Date: Mon, 22 Mar 2010 08:37:05 -0700
From: Steven <diespammers@killspammers.com>
To: telecomdigestmoderator.remove-this@and-this-too.telecom-digest.org.
Subject: Re:Tabletop Telephone Company
Message-ID: <ho82r0$b1v$1@news.eternal-september.org>
Sam Spade wrote:
> In April my wife and I are spending a night at a great B&B in an
> isolated small Arizona town called AJO.
>
> I've been there twice before, but never checked out the local LEC. It
> is Tabletop Telephone Company. They serve four other small, isolated
> Arizona towns.
>
> Ajo is in NPA 520, the other four are in NPA 928:
>
> Seligman and Sanders on Interstate 40
>
> Bagdad, an isolated copper mining town well west of Prescott
>
> Aguila, a wide spot on a two-line highway well west of Wickenburg.
>
> The drive to cover these five wire centers is gigantic. The towns must
> very in size from 300 to 900 people. Ajo might top 1,000...barely.
>
> The amazing fact is each town has a 5ESS switch. I didn't think the
> economy of scale would make a 5ESS viable for such small towns.
>
> Interesting, too, is that the Calling Guide doesn't list the tandem for
> any of these switches.
>
> Ajo 520-387
>
> Seligman 928-422
>
> Bagdad 928-633
>
> Aguila 928-685
>
> Sanders 928-688
>
My guess it they go either to Qwest or AT&T, Verizons switches out there
went to AT&T rather then to Palm Springs then to Onterio
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Date: 22 Mar 2010 21:59:54 -0000
From: John Levine <johnl@iecc.com>
To: telecomdigestmoderator.remove-this@and-this-too.telecom-digest.org.
Subject: Re:Tabletop Telephone Company
Message-ID: <20100322215954.57763.qmail@simone.iecc.com>
>> The amazing fact is each town has a 5ESS switch. I didn't think the
>> economy of scale would make a 5ESS viable for such small towns.
Welcome to the magic of the Universal Service Fund, where the more you
spend, the more you make. I hope there is one ESS with four remotes,
but I wouldn't count on it.
R's,
John
Date: Mon, 22 Mar 2010 11:57:59 -0700 (PDT)
From: John Bartley K7AAY <john.bartley@gmail.com>
To: telecomdigestmoderator.remove-this@and-this-too.telecom-digest.org.
Subject: Providers for sequential or rollover ringing of specified lines from one number
Message-ID: <4904d969-35ec-491c-ba0b-fccbd4d3dfef@h35g2000pri.googlegroups.com>
I'm looking for a telephony provider which will ring number A on an
incoming call, and if number A does not answer within x seconds, ring
number B, then number C if B does not answer within x seconds. Don't
want to install hardware on our premises, and a flat monthly rate is
preferred for the service without having to worry about running over
the specified number of minutes (as phone.com bills in tiers, and my
agency prefers a flat rate).
Your kind assistance would be appreciated.
Date: Mon, 22 Mar 2010 21:32:42 -0700
From: Steven <diespammers@killspammers.com>
To: telecomdigestmoderator.remove-this@and-this-too.telecom-digest.org.
Subject: Re: Providers for sequential or rollover ringing of specified lines from one number
Message-ID: <ho9g9a$fa7$1@news.eternal-september.org>
John Bartley K7AAY wrote:
> I'm looking for a telephony provider which will ring number A on an
> incoming call, and if number A does not answer within x seconds, ring
> number B, then number C if B does not answer within x seconds. Don't
> want to install hardware on our premises, and a flat monthly rate is
> preferred for the service without having to worry about running over
> the specified number of minutes (as phone.com bills in tiers, and my
> agency prefers a flat rate).
>
> Your kind assistance would be appreciated.
>
That sounds a little like Google Phone.
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The only good spammer is a dead one!! Have you hunted one down today?
(c) 2010 I Kill Spammers, Inc., A Rot in Hell. Co.
Date: Tue, 23 Mar 2010 04:05:25 +0000 (UTC)
From: David Lesher <wb8foz@panix.com>
To: telecomdigestmoderator.remove-this@and-this-too.telecom-digest.org.
Subject: Re:Tabletop Telephone Company
Message-ID: <ho9em5$ekg$1@reader1.panix.com>
Sam Spade <sam@coldmail.com> writes:
>The drive to cover these five wire centers is gigantic. The towns must
>very in size from 300 to 900 people. Ajo might top 1,000...barely.
>The amazing fact is each town has a 5ESS switch. I didn't think the
>economy of scale would make a 5ESS viable for such small towns.
I don't believe such at all. What I suspect is that each of
those towns has a remote of some kind off of a distant 5ESS.
I vaguely recall an ORM {Optically-coupled Remote Module} can be
hosted by a 5E within 150 miles. I suspect what's in each town
is something similar.
Someone with a LERG could tell us specifics.
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