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Volume 29 : Issue 62 : "text" Format

Messages in this Issue:
 Re: Catalina Island to the SoCal mainland
 Re: NYS "bill" in works to outlaw phone ID spoofing
 Re: NYS "bill" in works to outlaw phone ID spoofing
 Re: Speaking of microwave... 
 Re: Channel islands, was More about 5E remote from Catalina Island 
 Need minor part for 2500 phone 
 Re: Need minor part for 2500 phone 
 Re: Need minor part for 2500 phone 
 Re: US school district spied on students through webcams, court told 
 Re: Catalina Island to the SoCal mainland
 Clueless Woman Calls Tech Show When Her Stolen Wi-Fi Disappears


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Date: Mon, 01 Mar 2010 20:32:20 -0800 From: Thad Floryan <thad@thadlabs.com> To: telecomdigestmoderator.remove-this@and-this-too.telecom-digest.org. Subject: Re: Catalina Island to the SoCal mainland Message-ID: <4B8C94D4.8050507@thadlabs.com> On 3/1/2010 3:00 PM, Steven wrote: > dreamsofowls@sbcglobal.net wrote: >> [...] >> No, it wasn't that easy, I've not added all the shenanigans from >> Verizon and the local company. As Verizon tech support told me, >> you're too close to the tower to get a signal, you'll have to >> replace your telephone. But it works fine in Roseville CA, right >> under the tower there.. > > Years ago (before I retired from GTE/Verizon), I was working in > Idyllwild and right across from the CO there was a cell site, We were > unable to make cell calls from the CO, we had to go across the street, > we were told it was because we were below the tower. > [...] Odd, I had no such problems in San Mateo CA on the 10th (top) floor of the "Crossroads" office complex at US-101 and California Hwy 92. Not only was every cell phone vendor's gear atop the building, so was all the police, fire and sheriff radio gear. And on the 9th floor (beneath me) there was a company developing "something" for cellphones and they had their own set of "cell towers" operating low-power on that floor. 5 bars was the norm on everyone's cell phone no matter which carrier, AT&T, T-mobile, Verizon, etc. Less than a mile-away, though, the local AT&T store was nearly in a "black hole" and they finally had to move their operations to another location (27th street and El Camino) to be able to demonstrate product; that was strange because I could see the (old) AT&T store from the roof of the building -- direct line-of-sight to the Safeway shopping center flanking El Camino and Hwy 92.
Date: Mon, 01 Mar 2010 20:47:06 -0800 From: Thad Floryan <thad@thadlabs.com> To: telecomdigestmoderator.remove-this@and-this-too.telecom-digest.org. Subject: Re: NYS "bill" in works to outlaw phone ID spoofing Message-ID: <4B8C984A.5010102@thadlabs.com> On 3/1/2010 5:32 PM, Wesrock@aol.com wrote: > [...] > The NBC affiliate in Oklahoma City has an antique appraisal segment on > the news each Wednesday that the party calls in to seek to show their > stuff reaches a recording and the anchor warns that when they call you > back the caller ID will show 111-111-1111 so you'll know it's not an > unwanted call. > > I don't know how that will identify it as not spam because spam calls > also have come in with the same spoofed caller ID Agreed. I've seen 111-111-1111 and a variety of 800, 888, 877, and 866 numbers spam-spoofed but what really annoys me is seeing my own number as the caller. Needless to say, I never answer any of those and they've stopped for at least several months now. One thing I do is ask people from what number they would be calling me so I can have that number in my "phone book" as a known caller; most companies and people are receptive to this idea after I assure them I will answer the phone when called and not hassle them with voice mail (which is a benefit to me, too, since AT&T's cellular voice mail is the worst system I've ever had the displeasure of using: poorly designed menu system, poor voice quality, too-fast prompts, etc etc a real mess and my only gripe about AT&T Mobility). It's only when I'm driving that I let known callers go to voice mail and I'll usually return the call when safe to do so without even listening to any voice mail.
Date: Tue, 2 Mar 2010 05:36:28 +0000 (UTC) From: danny burstein <dannyb@panix.com> To: telecomdigestmoderator.remove-this@and-this-too.telecom-digest.org. Subject: Re: NYS "bill" in works to outlaw phone ID spoofing Message-ID: <hmi84s$37d$2@reader1.panix.com> In <3acfd.63ab4c4e.38bdc4c2@aol.com> Wesrock@aol.com writes: > > The NBC affiliate in Oklahoma City has an antique appraisal segment > on the news each Wednesday that the party calls in to seek to show > their stuff reaches a recording and the anchor warns that when they > call you back the caller ID will show 111-111-1111 so you'll know > it's not an unwanted call. > > I don't know how that will identify it as not spam because spam > calls also have come in with the same spoofed caller ID I recently had some tests at a hospital. During the prep they explained that, as part of quality assurance, I'd be getting a phone call from them in about a week. And.... to comply with HIPAA [a] privacy issues regarding medical care, she explained, the caller ID would not be the hospital, but would be (iirc) that same 111-111-1111, and could I please answer.... (Since she had a big needle with her I didn't argue the point). [a] HIPAA = The Health Insurance Portability and Accountability Act of 1996. Aka Kennedy-Kassebaum (the bill sponsors). - - _____________________________________________________ Knowledge may be power, but communications is the key dannyb@panix.com [to foil spammers, my address has been double rot-13 encoded] ***** Moderator's Note ***** They spoof their CID to comply with HIPAA? THAT's what they said? That's the most transparent and insulting pile of bull I've ever heard! They're not trying to comply with HIPAA: they're trying to channel all callbacks into their overseas paid-by-the-call-barely-speaks-English billing/renewals/our-medical-deities-can't-be-bothered voice mail system! HIPAA?? BULL! Bill Horne Moderator
Date: Tue, 2 Mar 2010 07:33:54 -0800 (PST) From: stan <tsanford@nf.sympatico.ca> To: telecomdigestmoderator.remove-this@and-this-too.telecom-digest.org. Subject: Re: Speaking of microwave... Message-ID: <d3c9cf7d-581d-4149-b4e4-41718458e178@f35g2000yqd.googlegroups.com> On Mar 1, 4:23pm, tlvp <mPiOsUcB.EtLlL...@att.net> wrote: > On Mon, 01 Mar 2010 08:15:39 -0500, earle robinson > > <earler.rem...@remove.gmail.com> wrote: >> LaGuardia, while mayor until 1945, changed the name of 6th Avenue [to] >> Avenue of the Americas. [It was a] mistake because it was a cumbersome >> name, and everyone still said 6th Avenue. Even LaGuardia admitted the >> error, alas never corrected. Thus, other than for postal addresses, no >> one speaks of Avenue of the Americas. > > And a later mayor made the same mistake for a stretch of 7th Avenue, > hoping to dub it Fashion Avenue. Only the street signs themselves now > say it that way, not the locals ... nor even the tourists :-) . Recollection that 'back in the 1950s' Bell Canada and ATT used long haul TD-2 microwave transmission systems in the 2000 megahertz (2.0 gig) band. Not sure what the bandwidth (number of telephone or TV channels they were capable of). These days 2.4 gig. is used for cordless home phones, microwave ovens etc.
Date: Tue, 2 Mar 2010 07:58:30 -0800 (PST) From: stan <tsanford@nf.sympatico.ca> To: telecomdigestmoderator.remove-this@and-this-too.telecom-digest.org. Subject: Re: Channel islands, was More about 5E remote from Catalina Island Message-ID: <3aec9492-51b0-450d-be79-d60d33b20d41@d2g2000yqa.googlegroups.com> On Feb 27, 5:34pm, John Levine <jo...@iecc.com> wrote: >> They are integrated with the UK financial system, but not part of the >> UK and not subject to UK or EU taxes. If you are doing business in >> the UK, but you're not subject to UK taxes because you're not a UK >> resident, Jersey's where you probably do your banking. > >> This means they have a lot more need for high-tech communication than >> your typical offshore island. No wonder they have all the fiber. > >> ***** Moderator's Note ***** > >> If I'm not a UK resident, and therefore not subject to UK taxes, why >> wouldn't I just do my banking in London? > > Because the banks would collect taxes and you'd have to try to get > them refunded. I do have an account in the UK, and I have here a tax > certificate saying that last year they withheld 102.38 from the > interest they paid me. In the US I can credit that small amount > against my US taxes but for larger amounts and other countries, it's a > lot more complicated. Large volumes of digital traffic being monitored by computers, eh? If so, one could post numerous 'false messages', spattered with words which might attract attention, such as bombing, explosion, Taliban, Islam, religious-zealots, right-wing extremists, liberal, communist, socialist, anti-governemnt etc. etc. That should keep CIA busy! Then the 'real' message would be coded and seemingly innocent.
Date: Tue, 2 Mar 2010 08:04:19 -0800 (PST) From: stan <tsanford@nf.sympatico.ca> To: telecomdigestmoderator.remove-this@and-this-too.telecom-digest.org. Subject: Need minor part for 2500 phone Message-ID: <b6286e5d-b9ea-4f47-84fe-95dab2973581@19g2000yqu.googlegroups.com> Our Bell System 2500 phone is missing one of the small white plastic plungers that press down the 'on hook' switch when the handset is placed on the cradle. Only one is needed to restore the phone to original health and reasonably good condition! Would much welcome advice as to possible source. TIA
Date: 2 Mar 2010 18:33:26 -0000 From: John Levine <johnl@iecc.com> To: telecomdigestmoderator.remove-this@and-this-too.telecom-digest.org. Subject: Re: Need minor part for 2500 phone Message-ID: <20100302183326.16031.qmail@simone.iecc.com> > Our Bell System 2500 phone is missing one of the small white plastic > plungers that press down the 'on hook' switch when the handset is > placed on the cradle. Only one is needed to restore the phone to > original health and reasonably good condition! > > Would much welcome advice as to possible source. TIA This is the kind of stuff that long time Digest supporter Mike Sandman sells at www.sandman.com R's, John
Date: Tue, 2 Mar 2010 19:32:39 EST From: Wesrock@aol.com To: telecomdigestmoderator.remove-this@and-this-too.telecom-digest.org. Subject: Re: Need minor part for 2500 phone Message-ID: <80943.5c17b11a.38bf0827@aol.com> In a message dated 3/2/2010 4:02:30 PM Central Standard Time, johnl@iecc.com writes: >> Our Bell System 2500 phone is missing one of the small white plastic >> plungers that press down the 'on hook' switch when the handset is >> placed on the cradle. Only one is needed to restore the phone to >> original health and reasonably good condition! >> >> Would much welcome advice as to possible source. TIA > > This is the kind of stuff that long time Digest supporter Mike Sandman > sells at www.sandman.com. Mention of Mike Sandman brings to mind that the other day I was doing a search on Caller ID boxes and Mike's website popped up with a notation that he did not carry low-end Caller ID boxes because they're readily available in hardware stores and drug stores. I thought so, too, until I started looking for one (low-end) in those types of stores and couldn't find one. Wes Leatherock wesrock@aol.com wleathus@yahoo.com
Date: Tue, 2 Mar 2010 07:04:46 -0800 (PST) From: hancock4@bbs.cpcn.com To: telecomdigestmoderator.remove-this@and-this-too.telecom-digest.org. Subject: Re: US school district spied on students through webcams, court told Message-ID: <9a286ab9-f6a8-4dcb-88ba-184e74793fb0@y11g2000yqh.googlegroups.com> On Feb 19, 11:08am, Monty Solomon <mo...@roscom.com> wrote: > Pennsylvania district accused of using remote-control laptops to > photograph teenage students at home without their knowledge On Tuesday, March 2 the Inqr reported: Parents groups oppose class-action suit on laptops A group of Lower Merion and Harriton High School parents will meet tonight to discuss ways to derail the possibility that a federal lawsuit over laptop spying could lead to a lengthy and expensive class- action case against their district. [Many parents in the school district feel a lawsuit is the wrong way to resolve the issue.] For full article please see: http://www.philly.com/inquirer/local/20100302_Parents_groups_oppose_class-action_suit_on_laptops.html
Date: Tue, 02 Mar 2010 15:28:37 -0600 From: bonomi@host122.r-bonomi.com (Robert Bonomi) To: telecomdigestmoderator.remove-this@and-this-too.telecom-digest.org. Subject: Re: Catalina Island to the SoCal mainland Message-ID: <cMudna_6_sGYHhDWnZ2dnUVZ_hWdnZ2d@posted.nuvoxcommunications> In article <pan.2010.02.27.22.38.40.880158@myrealbox.com>, David Clayton <dcstar@myrealbox.com> wrote: >On Sat, 27 Feb 2010 01:09:21 -0600, GlowingBlueMist wrote: >........ >> And I thought we had fun at Ramstein AFB in Germany with a microwave link >> shooting across the runway. Everything worked perfectly until those pesky >> C5 planes parked in the wrong place. The tail fin stuck up higher than >> the microwave beam. We had to call the tower to have them "move the >> &#^%~* plane" a couple of times a month. > > I recall a story an ex-workmate once told me (years ago now) when he > was in the Australian Army in the late 1960's and part of a squad that > set up mobile microwave point-to-point links. > > They (apparently) once were told to set up a link from Point "A" to > Point "B", but unfortunately there was a hill in the way blocking the > line of sight, so (apparently) their new officer - when informed of > the problem and how microwave links only work when the dishes can > "see" each other came up with a solution - and ordered them to take > two dishes to the hill and just connect them > back-to-back...... directly..... with no repeater equipment..... > > It is always a lot easier in the military to follow orders than try to > argue with your "superiors", so they did what they were told.... with > predictable results..... :-) > > ***** Moderator's Note ***** > > Well, that sounds like it might have worked with a big enough dish. We > used to put reflectors in the "Near field" of microwave stations, so > that the actual antenna could be at ground level, with just a > "billboard" on the tower. The FCC finally outlawed them; I don't know > why. Anyway, is what David describes possible in theory? Possible? Sure! One dish captures incoming signal and focuses it into a waveguide, the waveguide 'pipes' it to the other unit where it is bounced off the second dish, and on towards the destination. See: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Passive_repeater for more detailed info. IIRC, such a dual-dish hook-up is going to have a "theoretical _minimum_" loss of 6db, and, in practice, the net insertion loss is generally considerably higher.
Date: Tue, 2 Mar 2010 20:06:08 -0500 From: Monty Solomon <monty@roscom.com> To: telecomdigestmoderator.remove-this@and-this-too.telecom-digest.org. Subject: Clueless Woman Calls Tech Show When Her Stolen Wi-Fi Disappears Message-ID: <p06240884c7b3666b4213@[10.0.1.4]> Clueless Woman Calls Tech Show When Her Stolen Wi-Fi Disappears [VIDEO] Yeah, everyone has stolen Wi-Fi at one point or another, but not everyone has called into a tech show in order to complain about the fact that someone put the kibosh on said stealing. Meet Jennifer, she had been unwittingly yoinking Wi-Fi for more than a year and a half when the gravy train ran out, after which she called into Leo Laporte's Tech Guy radio show in a state of utter confusion. After hitting YouTube this weekend - the show aired on Saturday - the video depicting Laporte interviewing the confused woman has gone viral, racking up 122,661 views at the time of this post. ... http://mashable.com/2010/02/22/stolen-wifi-confusion/
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