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Volume 28 : Issue 330 : "text" Format
Messages in this Issue:
Re: Do you know where there are Teletype machines for sale?
Re: RESISTORS barn burned down
Re: mobile only, was 'Sexting' popular among teens
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Date: Tue, 15 Dec 2009 19:05:44 -0800
From: Steven <diespammers@killspammers.com>
To: redacted@invalid.telecom.csail.mit.edu
Subject: Re: Do you know where there are Teletype machines for sale?
Message-ID: <hg9iqa$f7i$1@news.eternal-september.org>
Robert Bonomi wrote:
> In article <3f0b2703-971d-4d56-aa0d-eadc662ea061@21g2000yqj.googlegroups.com>,
>> ***** Moderator's Note *****
>>
>> The moral of this story is that I KNOW that somewhere, there is a
>> warehouse full of Teletype machines, packed in Cosmoline, ready to go
>> into service. The "pack rat" nature of techies dictates it, and I'm
>> going on a mission to find them! ;-)
>
> IF there is such a warehouse, you're still gonna be out of luck.
> The techie guarding it is preserving them for telco use, not for
> surplus sales.
>
> GRIN
>
> ***** Moderator's Note *****
>
> Nope, I don't believe it. Techies want things to be _used_, not just
> stored, and they'll welcome me when I show up bearing lubricants and
> anti-fungal agents.
>
> Bill Horne
> Moderator
I converted an old power room, [which was] in the basement of a CO, to
keep a stock on the main parts we used in Co Installation - because
the GTE supply system went computer, and it took a week to get
materials to the field, not just one day [as it was] under the old
system. Over time I [stored] all kinds of stuff, including old SXS
parts which we no longer used (including a test train rack, which I
took home just before I retired).
That room was intact until 2006: ten years after I retired, no one
knew about the room, and in fact no one even knew where the key to it
was. It was only found when they went to convert that area into CLEC
cages, [and] a friend called me, asking what I know about it since I
ran the room: I was really surprised it was still there. I went ot
the office and got the key, right where I had left it, and we opened
the room.
It had a couple of inches of dust, but appeared to be the way I left
it. Most of the parts in there were returned to stock, [put] in
supply, or [sent] to the field, but some of the material was old Step
parts, and [they] were taken by employees who wanted to remember the
old days. I took some lubs that I wanted for my Test Train and a
couple of switches and parts for them. I also took an old Microfiche
reader, and the 1996 catalog that went with it. I also found 6 Apple
II computers that we had used for turning up the GTD 5 switch; the
engineer was an Apple freak, [so] I also got those for my Apple II
collection.
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Date: 16 Dec 2009 03:39:56 -0000
From: John Levine <johnl@iecc.com>
To: redacted@invalid.telecom.csail.mit.edu
Subject: Re: RESISTORS barn burned down
Message-ID: <20091216033956.3250.qmail@simone.iecc.com>
> Unfortunately, private collections are sometimes sadly destroyed as
> this article describes:
>
> http://www.trentonian.com/articles/2009/12/04/news/doc4b1888f3ca007384474191.txt
That was the barn where the RESISTORS computer club met in the 1960s
and 1970s. See http://www.resistors.org, which happens to be hosted
on the same computer as the digest's mailing list.
Claude, who owned the barn, had collected a great deal of equipment
that had been discarded by Western Electric and NJ Bell, but as he got
old and infirm, he wasn't able to take as good care of it as he'd have
liked. Back in 1998 most of it was in poor shape, with mice having
chewed through insulation and so forth, and I expect it was in much
worse shape by the time the barn burned down last week. It was still
a shame for it to go, though.
R's,
John
Date: Wed, 16 Dec 2009 07:36:25 -0800 (PST)
From: Neal McLain <nmclain@annsgarden.com>
To: redacted@invalid.telecom.csail.mit.edu
Subject: Re: mobile only, was 'Sexting' popular among teens
Message-ID: <66168c2a-2801-4c53-8546-6b6b76297d3f@l2g2000vbg.googlegroups.com>
On Dec 15, 12:12 am, John Levine <jo...@iecc.com> wrote:
> > Since you do have a cellular number and you don't have a
> > landline number, you're a lot more likely to have a fair amount of
> > disposable income than someone whose pattern is vice versa.
>
> That's not true any more. Prepaid mobiles are now cheap enough that
> they're a reasonable choice for your only phone on a limited budget.
> I just got some Tracfones for $20 each, and if you're careful to use
> promotion codes the airtime is about 10 cents/min.
>
> People with only a landline tend to be old, people with only a mobile
> tend to be young, but I don't think you can assume that one would be
> richer than the other.
>
> R's,
> John
>
> ***** Moderator's Note *****
>
> Noone in the direct mail industry assumes that one group is richer
> than the other: they just know for a fact that young cell phone users
> are much more likely to dispose of their income on high-profit,
> non-essential things like music downloads and CD's, clothes,
> carbonated beverages, brand-name footwear, and quick-serve
> restaurants.
>
> People with only a landline are old, and they're not going to buy
> rap music, Trademark shoes, "power" beverages, or Tommy Hilfigger
> pants. They not even going to eat at McWendyKing unless they're
> baby-sitting their grandchildren.
>
> That means that those who have only a landline are much more likely to
> get a coupon promising that "kids eat free" during the holidays. Those
> with only a cellphone are much more likely to get a text message from
> "ladi goo-goo" promising that they can get Nike shoes by going to
> BurgerDonald.
>
> It's ALL grist for the mill: if I know your zip code and your age, I
> can identify you and the products you're most likely to buy and
> whether sales promotions will affect your buying pattern.
>
> Bill Horne
> Moderator
Ok, Bill, identify me. I'm 74 and my zip is 77422.
Neal McLain
***** Moderator's Note *****
You're opinionated, intolerant of liars, unimpressed by advertising,
disappointed with the government, and you can spot a phoney a mile
away.
Oh, wait, that's me, too: all I had to know was your age. Your zip
code tells me that I'll never have to worry about you sticking a knife
in my back: if you want to put a knife in me, you'll look me in the
eye when you do it. ;-)
Since I've been out of that business for over 14 years now, I'll let
others tell us your brands of car, candy, and capitalism.
Bill Horne
Moderator
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