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  AT&T Relents, Drops Paging Instructions from Voicemail 
  Re: AT&T Relents, Drops Paging Instructions from Voicemail   
  Re: AT&T to Make Faster 3G Technology Available in Six Major Cities This Year 
  Re: AT&T to Make Faster 3G Technology Available in Six Major Cities This Year 
  Re: AT&T to Make Faster 3G Technology Available in Six Major Cities This Year 
  Re: AT&T to Make Faster 3G Technology Available in Six Major Cities This Year 
  Those auto warranty/credit card robocallers 
  Re: Those auto warranty/credit card robocallers 
  Re: Those auto warranty/credit card robocallers 
  Re: Dr. James Marsters, TTY deaf service developer 


====== 28 years of TELECOM Digest -- Founded August 21, 1981 ====== Telecom and VOIP (Voice over Internet Protocol) Digest for the Internet. All contents here are copyrighted by Patrick Townson and the individual writers/correspondents. Articles may be used in other journals or newsgroups, provided the writer's name and the Digest are included in the fair use quote. By using -any name or email address- included herein for -any- reason other than responding to an article herein, you agree to pay a hundred dollars to the recipients of the email. =========================== Addresses herein are not to be added to any mailing list, nor to be sold or given away without explicit written consent. Chain letters, viruses, porn, spam, and miscellaneous junk are definitely unwelcome. We must fight spam for the same reason we fight crime: not because we are naive enough to believe that we will ever stamp it out, but because we do not want the kind of world that results when no one stands against crime. Geoffrey Welsh =========================== See the bottom of this issue for subscription and archive details and the name of our lawyer, and other stuff of interest. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Thu, 10 Sep 2009 08:46:31 -0400 From: Monty Solomon <monty@roscom.com> To: redacted@invalid.telecom.csail.mit.edu Subject: AT&T Relents, Drops Paging Instructions from Voicemail Message-ID: <p0624080fc6ce34822038@[10.0.1.3]> http://pogue.blogs.nytimes.com/2009/09/09/att-relents-drops-paging-instructions-from-voicemail/ AT&T Relents, Drops Paging Instructions from Voicemail September 9, 2009, 6:05 pm I know the big news today is supposed to be Steve Jobs returning to the stage at Apple's iPod announcements and all. But for me, the big news is this: As of today, AT&T has eliminated the most egregious portion of its mandatory, time-wasting voicemail instructions recording. You know that blast from 1975? The part that says, "To page this person, press five now"? It's gone. Nationwide. Because of you, dear readers, and all the complaints you've filed in the last five weeks. This is the first victory in our "Take Back the Beep" campaign. That's my crusade to pressure the cell carriers to eliminate those ridiculous, mandatory, airtime-eating, life-wasting recordings. The wheels of huge corporations usually turn very slowly, but AT&T managed to discuss, process and implement this change in just five weeks. Now, the truth is, the stupid recording isn't completely gone. When you call an AT&T phone, you still hear "At the tone, please record your message. When you are finished recording, press pound. You may then leave a callback number." But the whole thing is only 8 seconds long, down from 12 or 15. Wheels are turning at T-Mobile on this issue. Sprint already lets you eliminate the entire recording. Verizon, characteristically, refuses to respond. But AT&T gets the credit for being the first to take a small, important step toward sanity. * Copyright 2009 The New York Times Company ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 10 Sep 2009 22:29:02 -0400 From: tlvp <mPiOsUcB.EtLlLvEp@att.net> To: redacted@invalid.telecom.csail.mit.edu Subject: Re: AT&T Relents, Drops Paging Instructions from Voicemail Message-ID: <op.uz2mioz1o63xbg@acer250.gateway.2wire.net> On Thu, 10 Sep 2009 10:49:50 -0400, Monty Solomon <monty@roscom.com> wrote: > http://pogue.blogs.nytimes.com/2009/09/09/att-relents-drops-paging-instructions-from-voicemail/ > > AT&T Relents, Drops Paging Instructions from Voicemail Now if T-Mobile will back down from their newly instituted fee of $1.50/month for mailing out our monthly paper billing statements, I'll really start to believe in consumer power :-) . Cheers, -- tlvp -- Avant de repondre, jeter la poubelle, SVP ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 10 Sep 2009 05:47:49 -0400 From: tlvp <mPiOsUcB.EtLlLvEp@att.net> To: redacted@invalid.telecom.csail.mit.edu Subject: Re: AT&T to Make Faster 3G Technology Available in Six Major Cities This Year Message-ID: <op.uz1b5zzjo63xbg@acer250.gateway.2wire.net> ************************************************** * PLEASE put "[Telecom]" in your subject line! * ************************************************** On Wed, 09 Sep 2009 14:20:21 -0400, Monty Solomon <monty@roscom.com> wrote: > AT&T today announced details of its rollout plans for High Speed > Packet Access (HSPA) 7.2 technology, which will provide a > considerable speed boost to what is already the nation's fastest 3G > mobile broadband network. Pity the USA isn't Poland -- we'd have had 7.2 Mb/sec HSDPA for several years by now if we were, with at least three competing (and competitive) GSM carriers, along with reasonably priced prepaid highspeed data services for visitors. Cheers, -- tlvp -- Avant de repondre, jeter la poubelle, SVP ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 11 Sep 2009 10:53:21 +1000 From: David Clayton <dcstar@myrealbox.com> To: redacted@invalid.telecom.csail.mit.edu Subject: Re: AT&T to Make Faster 3G Technology Available in Six Major Cities This Year Message-ID: <pan.2009.09.11.00.53.19.987259@myrealbox.com> On Thu, 10 Sep 2009 10:55:00 -0400, tlvp wrote: > > On Wed, 09 Sep 2009 14:20:21 -0400, Monty Solomon <monty@roscom.com> > wrote: > >> AT&T today announced details of its rollout plans for High Speed Packet >> Access (HSPA) 7.2 technology, which will provide a considerable speed >> boost to what is already the nation's fastest 3G mobile broadband >> network. > > Pity the USA isn't Poland -- we'd have had 7.2 Mb/sec HSDPA for several > years by now if we were, with at least three competing (and competitive) > GSM carriers, along with reasonably priced prepaid highspeed data services > for visitors. > That may be a result of "tech-leap" (I just made that phrase up...) where a country that did not have widespread infrastructure already in place is in a better position to adopt a more modern technology than those places with incumbent vested interests who prefer to stay with what they have. Much easier to put the state of the art stuff in a "Greenfields" environment rather than have to fight off older technology competitors who will (usually) use every trick in the book to retain their market share. -- Regards, David. David Clayton Melbourne, Victoria, Australia. Knowledge is a measure of how many answers you have, intelligence is a measure of how many questions you have. ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 10 Sep 2009 07:18:03 -0700 From: Sam Spade <sam@coldmail.com> To: redacted@invalid.telecom.csail.mit.edu Subject: Re: AT&T to Make Faster 3G Technology Available in Six Major Cities This Year Message-ID: <wU7qm.180262$0e4.82047@newsfe19.iad> ************************************************** * PLEASE put "[Telecom]" in your subject line! * ************************************************** Monty Solomon wrote: > AT&T plans to begin deployment of HSPA 7.2 in six major U.S. cities, > including Charlotte, Chicago, Dallas, Houston, Los Angeles and > Miami, with initial service availability expected in these markets > by the end of the year. All told, the company plans to deploy HSPA > 7.2 in 25 of the nation's 30 largest markets by the end of 2010, and > to reach about 90 percent of its existing 3G network footprint with > HSPA 7.2 by the end of 2011. Using Los Angeles as an example, I wonder whether they mean the city, per se, or AT$T's entire Los Angeles system (which is a whole lot bigger than the City of Los Angeles.) ------------------------------ Date: 10 Sep 2009 21:49:35 -0000 From: John Levine <johnl@iecc.com> To: redacted@invalid.telecom.csail.mit.edu Subject: Re: AT&T to Make Faster 3G Technology Available in Six Major Cities This Year Message-ID: <20090910214935.5777.qmail@simone.iecc.com> >> AT&T plans to begin deployment of HSPA 7.2 in six major U.S. cities, >> including Charlotte, Chicago, Dallas, Houston, Los Angeles and >> Miami, ... >Using Los Angeles as an example, I wonder whether they mean the city, >per se, or AT$T's entire Los Angeles system (which is a whole lot >bigger than the City of Los Angeles.) They mean at least one tower that a lot of non-cost-sensitive people use. Beverly Hills, perhaps. R's, John ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 10 Sep 2009 16:12:09 +0000 (UTC) From: moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) To: redacted@invalid.telecom.csail.mit.edu Subject: Those auto warranty/credit card robocallers Message-ID: <h8b8gp$orr$1@pcls4.std.com> ************************************************** * PLEASE put "[Telecom]" in your subject line! * ************************************************** All of us (at least in the US, and probably Canada as well) have probably gotten those robocalls trying to sell auto warranties/fix credit cards/ whatever, always from a spoofed caller ID. These guys break at least 4 US laws/regulations that I can think of - calling do-not-call numbers, calling cell phones, machine sales pitch if you answer, spoofed caller ID. They've managed to avoid being shut down although there was a little effort to look into this when they called a congressman during a meeting or something. How do they seem to get their large volume of calls into the phone system? (VOIP?) How do they choose the number to spoof? They seem to choose a number, use it for a few days and then start using another according to data on http://whocalled.us. Since caller ID is easy to spoof why don't they use something random each time? How do they avoid getting nabbed/ shut down? I haven't heard from them for a while, until today. This time they did something different. I received a call from the 702 area code on my older cell phone and when I looked at the call list to see where it was from, the phone number field was a bunch of left-pointing arrows and the "from" and time were a bunch of Chinese characters. What did they do to my phone and how? Trying to "return" the call to see what number it called didn't work. ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 10 Sep 2009 23:13:31 +0000 (UTC) From: danny burstein <dannyb@panix.com> To: redacted@invalid.telecom.csail.mit.edu Subject: Re: Those auto warranty/credit card robocallers Message-ID: <h8c16r$pee$1@reader1.panix.com> In <h8b8gp$orr$1@pcls4.std.com> moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) writes: >All of us (at least in the US, and probably Canada as well) have probably >gotten those robocalls trying to sell auto warranties/fix credit cards/ >whatever, always from a spoofed caller ID. These guys break at least >4 US laws/regulations that I can think of - calling do-not-call numbers, >calling cell phones, machine sales pitch if you answer, spoofed caller ID. >I haven't heard from them for a while, until today. [snip] The reason they've gotten away with it for so long is because the folk who could and should.. do something about it have been taking lessons from the same people who taught the SEC investigators who should have caught Madoff. That being said, just the other day the FTC announced [FTC press release] For Release: 09/01/2009 FTC Settlement Bans Robocalls from Auto "Warranty" Company New Rule Prohibiting Unwanted Robocalls Takes Effect Today American consumers won't be getting any more deceptive robocalls from the auto "warranty" company that bombarded them with millions of the prerecorded calls earlier this year, under a proposed settlement with the Federal Trade Commission. The company, Transcontinental Warranty, Inc., and its owner will be permanently banned from making any prerecorded calls like the ones it used previously to trick consumers into buying vehicle service contracts under the guise that they were extensions of original vehicle warranties. rest: http://www.ftc.gov/opa/2009/09/twi.shtm Oh, and for good measure: "The proposed settlement includes a $24 million judgment against the defendants, which is suspended because of their inability to pay." - nothing in the press release about getting the banks, etc. to reverse and/or credit the people who were suckered into sending over money. -- _____________________________________________________ Knowledge may be power, but communications is the key dannyb@panix.com [to foil spammers, my address has been double rot-13 encoded] ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 10 Sep 2009 18:52:27 -0700 From: Sam Spade <sam@coldmail.com> To: redacted@invalid.telecom.csail.mit.edu Subject: Re: Those auto warranty/credit card robocallers Message-ID: <v3iqm.17889$nP6.5445@newsfe25.iad> danny burstein wrote: > In <h8b8gp$orr$1@pcls4.std.com> moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) writes: > > >> All of us (at least in the US, and probably Canada as well) have >> probably gotten those robocalls trying to sell auto warranties/fix >> credit cards/ whatever, always from a spoofed caller ID. These >> guys break at least 4 US laws/regulations that I can think of - >> calling do-not-call numbers, calling cell phones, machine sales >> pitch if you answer, spoofed caller ID. [Moderator snip] > That being said, just the other day the FTC announced > > [FTC press release] > > For Release: 09/01/2009 > FTC Settlement Bans Robocalls from Auto "Warranty" Company > New Rule Prohibiting Unwanted Robocalls Takes Effect Today [Moderator snip] > Oh, and for good measure: > > "The proposed settlement includes a $24 million judgment > against the defendants, which is suspended because of their > inability to pay." Lots of change under Obama. ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 10 Sep 2009 21:35:17 -0400 From: "Geoffrey Welsh" <gwelsh@spamcop.net> To: redacted@invalid.telecom.csail.mit.edu Subject: Re: Dr. James Marsters, TTY deaf service developer Message-ID: <be875$4aa9a97a$d8fea0b7$11584@PRIMUS.CA> Dave Garland wrote: > it never occurred to me that a product designer would have wired a > power source into a RS232 connector. That reminded me of the time I plugged a modem - I can't for the life of me recall the name, though I recall that it was selling like mad at the time because it was really cheap - into an Amiga. As it happens, the Amiga used a couple of 'reserved' pins for power (+ and - 12V, according to a pinout I found via Google), and the modem manufacturer used them for something entirely incompatible. I do not recall whether the Amiga was damaged or the modem was converted into the doorstop it so strongly resembled. > Gosh, I haven't used my "christmas tree" or little jumper box in > years. I don't miss it at all. What I hated was crimping all the pins for custom connectors. -- Geoffrey Welsh ------------------------------ TELECOM Digest is an electronic journal devoted mostly to telecom- munications topics. It is circulated anywhere there is email, in addition to Usenet, where it appears as the moderated newsgroup 'comp.dcom.telecom'. TELECOM Digest is a not-for-profit, mostly non-commercial educational service offered to the Internet by Patrick Townson. All the contents of the Digest are compilation-copyrighted. You may reprint articles in some other media on an occasional basis, but please attribute my work and that of the original author. The Telecom Digest is currently being moderated by Bill Horne while Pat Townson recovers from a stroke. 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