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Volume 28 : Issue 85 : "text" Format
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Re: Western Union public fax services, 1960
Re: Western Union public fax services, 1960
Re: Western Union public fax services, 1960
X.25 Pad
Re: To Bury or Not to Bury
Re: Western Union public fax services, 1960
Re: Western Union public fax services, 1960
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Date: Wed, 25 Mar 2009 21:07:51 +0000 (UTC)
From: danny burstein <dannyb@panix.com>
To: redacted@invalid.telecom.csail.mit.edu
Subject: Re: Western Union public fax services, 1960
Message-ID: <gqe6f7$7ts$1@reader1.panix.com>
In <gqdd2g$pj6$1@solaris.cc.vt.edu> ranck@vt.edu writes:
>It might surprise you to know that the US Post Office has gotten
>pretty darn good in recent years. My wife uses them for shipping
>pretty much exclusively. For a less than 2 lb. box of chocolates
>to arrive in a couple of days USPS beats UPS/FedEx/etc. on price
>and they haven't lost or damaged one yet. Of course, that's just
>one sample.
Well, clearly you need a better sample size. So please ship out
twenty five separate boxes of chocolates to our moderator...
***** Moderator's Note *****
Much as I'd like to participate in the research, neither my conscience
nor my waistline allow for such gifts. I will, however, suggest that
those seeking to test the USPS' chocolate-delivery performance send
such gifts to the USO for distribution to soldiers overseas.
Bill Horne
Temporary Moderator
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Date: Wed, 25 Mar 2009 15:51:28 -0700
From: Steven Lichter <diespammers@ikillspammers.com>
To: redacted@invalid.telecom.csail.mit.edu
Subject: Re: Western Union public fax services, 1960
Message-ID: <Nwyyl.4286$Lr6.2526@flpi143.ffdc.sbc.com>
ranck@vt.edu wrote:
> hancock4@bbs.cpcn.com wrote:
>
>> Just a side note...while UPS (United Parcel Service) had a large
>> market share in parcel shipping, it was never a monopoly. At one time
>> many people shipped their parcels via the US Post Office, and some
>> still do ("parcel post"). Unfortunately, the quality of the Post
>> Office service on parcels declined.
>
> It might surprise you to know that the US Post Office has gotten
> pretty darn good in recent years. My wife uses them for shipping
> pretty much exclusively. For a less than 2 lb. box of chocolates
> to arrive in a couple of days USPS beats UPS/FedEx/etc. on price
> and they haven't lost or damaged one yet. Of course, that's just
> one sample.
>
> Bill Ranck
> Blacksburg, Va.
>
I agree, for all my E-Bay sales I use the USPS Priority Mail and
packages are always delivered in no more the n 3 days and in one piece.
Didn't FedEx get its start from Flying Tiger?
--
The Only Good Spammer is a Dead one!! Have you hunted one down today?
(c) 2009 I Kill Spammers, Inc. A Rot In Hell Co.
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Date: Thu, 26 Mar 2009 14:00:20 -0700 (PDT)
From: hancock4@bbs.cpcn.com
To: redacted@invalid.telecom.csail.mit.edu
Subject: Re: Western Union public fax services, 1960
Message-ID: <7e33b810-5da5-4f10-b173-f9ae35ddf7cc@e35g2000yqc.googlegroups.com>
On Mar 26, 9:32 am, Steven Lichter <diespamm...@ikillspammers.com>
wrote:
> I agree, for all my E-Bay sales I use the USPS Priority Mail and
> packages are always delivered in no more the n 3 days and in one piece.
As far as I know, "Priority Mail" is handled differently than Parcel
Post. The USPS says to use Parcel Post when value is important. As
another posted noted, the price is about 75% of Priority Mail. Parcel
Post delivery time can be up to 8 days.
I guess if one is mailing something a long distance and it's very
heavy, Parcel Post may save money. But based on the way the website
describes the services, I think they're pushing people to use Priority
Mail.
The USPS website says:
Priority Mail®
Large or thick envelopes, tubes, and packages containing mailable
items can be sent using Priority Mail. This service is typically used
to send documents, gifts, and merchandise. Priority Mail envelopes and
boxes are available at the Post Office™.
Parcel Post®
Small and large packages, thick envelopes, and tubes containing gifts
and merchandise can be sent using Parcel Post.
I am curious what kind of handling, back in the 1960s, a domestic
letter marked "Air Mail" would get; that is, beyond having an airplane
fly it instead of a train or truck, would it be expedited in other
ways?
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Date: Wed, 25 Mar 2009 16:48:28 -0700 (PDT)
From: "nicofranzy@googlemail.com" <nicofranzy@googlemail.com>
To: redacted@invalid.telecom.csail.mit.edu
Subject: X.25 Pad
Message-ID: <bf9702e2-db5f-4f2e-a072-8607c87f4c5c@p11g2000yqe.googlegroups.com>
Hi,
Can anbody gives me some phone numbers to dial in a public X.25 Pad?
***** Moderator's Note *****
I'm not sure that there _are_ any more public X.25 networks, but if
there are, I think you'll need to start an account with one of them
before you dial into it.
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Temporary Moderator
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Date: Thu, 26 Mar 2009 11:22:11 -0700 (PDT)
From: Shawn <shawnl@up.net>
To: redacted@invalid.telecom.csail.mit.edu
Subject: Re: To Bury or Not to Bury
Message-ID: <ccc4d535-daa8-4d31-9fa5-3e68e2870d1d@l38g2000vba.googlegroups.com>
Even laying underground telephone cable / fiber or even CATV coax in
an existing neighborhood has it's issues. You can use plows to put
the cable underground without too much work, but you have to
directional bore at each paved driveway, sidewalk, or road crossing.
That's time consuming and expensive. Imagine a line of 20 houses,
each with a driveway and sidewalk going from the house to the road.
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Date: Thu, 26 Mar 2009 17:24:35 -0400
From: T <kd1s.nospam@cox.nospam.net>
To: redacted@invalid.telecom.csail.mit.edu
Subject: Re: Western Union public fax services, 1960
Message-ID: <MPG.2435bca25781375a98997f@reader.motzarella.org>
In article <gqdd2g$pj6$1@solaris.cc.vt.edu>, ranck@vt.edu says...
>
> hancock4@bbs.cpcn.com wrote:
>
> > Just a side note...while UPS (United Parcel Service) had a large
> > market share in parcel shipping, it was never a monopoly. At one time
> > many people shipped their parcels via the US Post Office, and some
> > still do ("parcel post"). Unfortunately, the quality of the Post
> > Office service on parcels declined.
>
> It might surprise you to know that the US Post Office has gotten
> pretty darn good in recent years. My wife uses them for shipping
> pretty much exclusively. For a less than 2 lb. box of chocolates
> to arrive in a couple of days USPS beats UPS/FedEx/etc. on price
> and they haven't lost or damaged one yet. Of course, that's just
> one sample.
>
> Bill Ranck
> Blacksburg, Va.
If you ever take a domestic flight watch what gets loaded into the cargo
areas. You'll see tray after tray, sack after sack of mail and the USPS
logo is on both trays and bags.
They take advantage of the domestic air travel system.
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Date: Thu, 26 Mar 2009 17:21:34 -0400
From: T <kd1s.nospam@cox.nospam.net>
To: redacted@invalid.telecom.csail.mit.edu
Subject: Re: Western Union public fax services, 1960
Message-ID: <MPG.2435bbcf95af021498997e@reader.motzarella.org>
In article <00b901c9ac8f$6d52bf10$47f83d30$@com>, earler.remove-
this@this-too.gmail.com says...
>
> It wasn't FedEx that supplanted railway express but UPS that did this.
> Railway express was a wonderful service way back when. My parents had
> salmon fishing water up in Canada, in the Gaspé peninsula. You
> reached it overnight by a single train rail line from montreal. They
> sent salmon down to friends in the states by railway express. Each
> salmon was packed in a pine coffin-like box that was lined with snow
> that had been preserved in an ice house since the winter. Every 100
> miles those boxes were repacked with fresh ice by railway express
> until they reached their destination. UPS, called United Parcel
> Service, was a small company that delivered packages from NYC
> department stores to customers who lived in the suburbs, including
> Westchester county, Connecticut, and New Jersey. With the development
> of air travel and the decline of the American rail system, Railway
> Express began its rapid decline, aided by the sudden expansion of UPS
> into carrying packages throughout the country.
>
> Eventually, UPS began to use air cargo for its big boxes, too, but
> relied mostly on its trucks. FedEx came along and had the idea of
> creating a hub for its business, which for many years was primarily
> documents, not big boxes. This was established in Memphis. FedEx was
> much helped by its hub, and by the increasingly poor service provided
> by the post office. The post office was a victim of politics first:
> each time a new president entered the White House each and every post
> office in the country got a new boss, a political hack from the
> president's political party.
>
> Anyway, the document business was flourishing for FedEx, but was
> beginning to become mature. So, FedEx management decided to begin to
> encroach and the box business in which UPS had a monopoly, and it
> succeeded over time to become a major player.
>
> -er
Interestingly I've noted that UPS services are best played if you act
like a business. Found that out when I had stuff shipped here with my
business name on it.
That said, USPS seems to have caught up.
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