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Message Digest Volume 28 : Issue 21 : "text" Format Messages in this Issue: Re: Tricky Windows Worm Wallops Millions Re: Tricky Windows Worm Wallops Millions Foreign Listings Again Re: Foreign Listings Again Why Obama's phone calls will always go through Obama's new BlackBerry: The NSA's secure PDA? Re: Obama's new BlackBerry: The NSA's secure PDA? Re: How to block a known number or last call received Re: How to block a known number or last call received Unwanted calls from an organization policy? Re: Unwanted calls from an organization policy? Re: Unwanted calls from an organization policy? Changing email address on Telecom Digest mailing list Re: Changing email address on Telecom Digest mailing list Re: Changing email address on Telecom Digest mailing list {Updated} Changing email address on Telecom Digest mailing list Apple Reports First Quarter Results ====== 27 years of TELECOM Digest -- Founded August 21, 1981 ====== Telecom and VOIP (Voice over Internet Protocol) Digest for the Internet. All contents here are copyrighted by Patrick Townson and the individual writers/correspondents. Articles may be used in other journals or newsgroups, provided the writer's name and the Digest are included in the fair use quote. By using -any name or email address- included herein for -any- reason other than responding to an article herein, you agree to pay a hundred dollars to the recipients of the email. =========================== Addresses herein are not to be added to any mailing list, nor to be sold or given away without explicit written consent. 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Geoffrey Welsh =========================== See the bottom of this issue for subscription and archive details and the name of our lawyer, and other stuff of interest. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Wed, 21 Jan 2009 01:22:02 -0500 From: Ron <ron@see.below> To: redacted@invalid.telecom.csail.mit.edu Subject: Re: Tricky Windows Worm Wallops Millions Message-ID: <9gfdn495o6ifdv6dhq80tcshiug2f7nebs@4ax.com> tlvp <PmUiRsGcE.TtHlEvSpE@att.net> wrote: >Know how an Audio CD or a video DVD or a software installation disk >just start themselves right up when you stick 'em in the tray? > >You can add an autostart.inf file to a USB stick to make it, too, >start itself right up when you plug it into a USB socket. > >Of course, the paranoid will always be holding down a [Shift] key >to prevent such unexpected start-ups -- if they've been bitten before >(like I've been -- explains why I'm paranoid :-) ), but others ... . The truly paranoid will have permanently disabled a "feature" that never should have existed in the first place. Start, Run, "gpedit.msc" (leave out the quotes) Under "Local Computer Policy" Under "Computer Configuration" Under "Administrative Templates" Highlight "System" In the right pane, double-click on "Disable Autoplay" On the Policy tab, select the "Enabled" button. In typical Windows user-friendly fashion "Enabled" enables the "Disable Autoplay". I.E.: "Enable" disables autoplay. In the box below for "Disable Autoplay", select the "All drives" from the pulldown. Now, click OK. -- Ron (user ron in domain spamblocked.com) ***** Moderator's Note ***** The above seems to work OK on my laptop, which uses Windows XP: you'll need to log on as a "Computer Administrator" to modify the policies. There are also various "templates" that administrators can use to limit users' options on workstations: the templates are collections of policies, affecting multiple options with a single change. I recommend that Internet users investigate the benefits (and pitfalls!) of installing the "hisec" (high security) template. See http://technet.microsoft.com/en-us/library/cc787720.aspx for details on the templates that are available. Bill Horne Temporary Moderator ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 21 Jan 2009 21:54:52 +1100 From: Colin <colins@swiftdsl.com.au> To: redacted@invalid.telecom.csail.mit.edu Subject: Re: Tricky Windows Worm Wallops Millions Message-ID: <4976fefe_2@news.peopletelecom.com.au> tlvp wrote: > On Tue, 20 Jan 2009 23:59:25 -0500, after a post by > Monty Solomon <monty@roscom.com>, the Moderator wrote: > >> ***** Moderator's Note ***** >> >> I guess I'm out of date on the Windows OS: why does a file on a USB >> stick pose a threat? This may seem an obvious question, but I trained >> in the days when a program could only be started by operator command >> or by an already-running program. Yet, with this and other worms, it >> seems that executable files magically start themselves just by the >> fact that they're located in the Windows file system. > > Know how an Audio CD or a video DVD or a software installation disk > just start themselves right up when you stick 'em in the tray? > > You can add an autostart.inf file to a USB stick to make it, too, > start itself right up when you plug it into a USB socket. > [...] > > I suspect others with a better grasp of the mechanism at play here > will be able to provide further enlightenment. > > Cheers, -- tlvp > From today's US-CERT Technical Cyber Security Alert TA09-020A -- Microsoft Windows Does Not Disable AutoRun Properly: * The Dangers of Windows AutoRun - http://www.cert.org/blogs/vuls/2008/04/the_dangers_of_windows_autorun.html * US-CERT Vulnerability Note VU#889747 - http://www.kb.cert.org/vuls/id/889747 * Nick Brown's blog: Memory stick worms - http://nick.brown.free.fr/blog/2007/10/memory-stick-worms * TR08-004 Disabling Autorun - http://www.publicsafety.gc.ca/prg/em/ccirc/2008/tr08-004-eng.aspx * How to Enable or Disable Automatically Running CD-ROMs - http://support.microsoft.com/kb/155217 * NoDriveTypeAutoRun - http://www.microsoft.com/technet/prodtechnol/windows2000serv/reskit/regentry/91525.mspx * Autorun.inf Entries - http://msdn.microsoft.com/en-us/library/bb776823(VS.85).aspx * W32.Downadup - http://www.symantec.com/security_response/writeup.jsp?docid=2008-112203-2408-99 * MS08-067 Worm, Downadup/Conflicker - http://www.f-secure.com/weblog/archives/00001576.html * Social Engineering Autoplay and Windows 7 - http://www.f-secure.com/weblog/archives/00001586.html * The Dangers of Windows AutoRun - http://www.cert.org/blogs/vuls/2008/04/the_dangers_of_windows_autorun.html * US-CERT Vulnerability Note VU#889747 - http://www.kb.cert.org/vuls/id/889747 * Nick Brown's blog: Memory stick worms - http://nick.brown.free.fr/blog/2007/10/memory-stick-worms * TR08-004 Disabling Autorun - http://www.publicsafety.gc.ca/prg/em/ccirc/2008/tr08-004-eng.aspx * How to Enable or Disable Automatically Running CD-ROMs - http://support.microsoft.com/kb/155217 Regards, Colin ***** Moderator's Note ***** Colin, thanks for the URL's. Here's another question: does Autorun work on _all_ drives/media by default, or only on "removable" media? In other words, does this worm spread by putting Autorun files on network shares as well as USB sticks? Bill Horne Temporary Moderator ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 21 Jan 2009 04:07:53 -0700 From: "Fred Atkinson" <fatkinson@mishmash.com> To: redacted@invalid.telecom.csail.mit.edu Subject: Foreign Listings Again Message-ID: <002501c97bb8$81e16100$c800000a@mishmash> >I'm a little unclear as to what you nean by "foreign" listing. >Telephone directories are open to all LECs, and the ILEC has to allow >CLECs to populate their listing database and give the numbers out to >411 callers. If you're looking to put a Las Cruces number into the >Las Cruces directory, it doesn't sound foreign to me. It does mean >that somebody has to know how to enter it. That's true. However, none of the telephone companies that I have dealt with [past or present] seem to acknowledge this. >It sounds to me like you've got two screwed-up companies making up tales. Not quite. With DEX Media, that is three. Add in Carolina Net's CLEC [whomever they are], and that is four. >Carolina Net is not a New Mexico CLEC. It is a parasitic VoIP >operator, meaning that it provides voice services over other >providers' broadband services. There's nothing wrong with that, but >as a non-CLEC, they don't have the right to port numbers, put entries >in phone books, or draw blocks of their own numbers from NANPA. They >do all of that via CLECs, from whom they purchase wholesale services. >In order to provide you with a (ported) New Mexico number, they have >to have a CLEC in New Mexico provide them with service. I don't know >who they use, but let's say for the sake of argument that it's Level >3, which does operate there and which provides wholesale service to >VoIP operators. In order to port your number, Carolina Net would pass >the request to Level 3, who'd enter the port. This is fairly routine, >and it worked. I've since had another conversation with Carolina Net. Apparently, they have more than one CLEC in New Mexico. The lady who is handling my listing request is getting my service changed to their other CLEC. She is going to try getting it done through the other CLEC. Then she is going to request the listing again. >As a CLEC, Level 3 has the right to put entries into the 411/DEX >database. But does Carolina Net have this process up and running >with Qwest? I'm guessing that the bulk of VoIP customers do not want >their number listed, so the three-vendor process is not totally >routine. It may be that Carolina Net is set up better to deal with >with ATT and VZ than with Q, through the same or different CLECs. >All of this information is missing from the report. Carolina Net made it clear that they can't arrange this with AT&T and Verizon. I had to make the listing directly with AT&T or Verizon. They charged me anywhere from two to four dollars per month. But they billed me annually. >Yes, Qwest can be VERY hard to deal with; I've been involved in some >New Mexico cases against them recently. Not only Qwest, but Verizon and AT&T as well. Did that case have anything to do with them shutting off service to Zianet? That was big news here in New Mexico recently. An enormous number of Zianet customers were out of service because of it. Apparently, Zianet was delinquent with their bill to Qwest for their Internet connectivity. So Qwest shut them down. After a lot of mulling and getting a check to them, the service was restored. But after some regulatory hassle, Qwest agreed to some additional notice before they would cut them off again. >DEX Media's legal status in an interesting question -- Qwest sold them >the directory business, but I'm guessing that the white pages database >is still based on Qwest's. I don't know whether DEX is required to >directly deal with end users. ... How else would they do it? Every time that Qwest adds a new customer number to the directory assistance database, they'd have to send a copy over to DEX. It would make more sense to just give them a copy of the directory assistance database once per year (when they publish the directory). It would make no sense for DEX to be tracking each listing every time it happened. >Yes, but "competing provider" generally refers to CLECs, not the >pVoIPos directly. So Carolina Net has to get their CLEC to fix it, >and their CLEC might not be set up for this. Nowhere in that rule did it say it had to be done through the CLEC. It says they must accept the listings of the CLECs [period]. It doesn't specify whether the listing is made by the customer or by the CLEC. As with AT&T and Verizon [after getting the PSC in each respective state to come down on them], the listing was made directly with the ILEC (AT&T or Verizon). It would be better to do it that way. If I decide to change providers {as I could at any time}, then I wouldn't run the risk of having the LEC delete my listing when I changed from one provider to the other. >I had directory listing problems for several years after porting two >numbers. The porting-in carrier (Media One -> ATTB -> Comcast) had >provisions for "bonding" their order process with the NYNEX -> BA-> VZ >directory, but it burped on non-standard listings (a request for name >without address on the secondary number). I eventually got it fixed >when I found a Comcast guy who could actually do a manual LSR (Local >Service Request, the process by which a CLEC enters line-side requests >into an ILEC operational support system). Of course had I not known >about LSRs, I wouldn't have known to go around the usual order-takers, >whose highly automated system didn't quite work as it appeared to. I wonder if there is anyone out there that can make foreign listings with any telephone company? I would think they could negotiate a deal. They could take the listing from the customer, list it with any carrier, and bill the customer for the annual listing fee. >VoIP is a low-margin business, designed for minimal manual >intervention, so they might be unprepared to deal with a directory >listing in an area they don't do much business in. If you can find >out the actual CLEC, that would help. I guess I could ask my contact at Carolina Net if they could tell me who is the CLEC that they are currently using for my account. I'll shoot her an email any minute. Regards, Fred ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 21 Jan 2009 10:12:07 -0600 From: Dave Garland <dave.garland@wizinfo.com> To: redacted@invalid.telecom.csail.mit.edu Subject: Re: Foreign Listings Again Message-ID: <eredndN0apx51erUnZ2dnUVZ_rDinZ2d@posted.visi> Fred Atkinson wrote: > How else would they do it? Every time that Qwest adds a new > customer number to the directory assistance database, they'd have to > send a copy over to DEX. It would make more sense to just give them a > copy of the directory assistance database once per year (when they > publish the directory). It would make no sense for DEX to be tracking > each listing every time it happened. Since many people access DEX not through the printed phone book, but online, it would make a lot of sense. Of course, that doesn't mean it works that way. Dave ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 21 Jan 2009 09:06:22 -0600 From: John Mayson <john@mayson.us> To: redacted@invalid.telecom.csail.mit.edu Subject: Why Obama's phone calls will always go through Message-ID: <6645152a0901210706p1e9bf09cr275a67eede226f53@mail.gmail.com> http://news.cnet.com/8301-13578_3-10144141-38.html "After Barack Obama is sworn in next week, he'll be able to enjoy one of the lesser-known benefits of the presidency: phone calls that always go through." -- John Mayson <john@mayson.us> Austin, Texas, USA ***** Moderator's Note ***** The Cnet article was actually headlined "Why Obama's _CELL_ phone calls will always go through", but that's a misleading and inaccurate come-on. The President uses a communications system totally separate from the commercial cellular network. Bill Horne Temporary Moderator ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 21 Jan 2009 09:07:20 -0600 From: John Mayson <john@mayson.us> To: redacted@invalid.telecom.csail.mit.edu Subject: Obama's new BlackBerry: The NSA's secure PDA? Message-ID: <6645152a0901210707j9c91772l7ae4ce53d0235096@mail.gmail.com> http://news.cnet.com/obamas-new-blackberry-the-nsas-secure-pda/ "One reason to curb presidential BlackBerrying is the possibility of eavesdropping by hackers and other digital snoops. While Research In Motion offers encryption, the U.S. government has stricter requirements for communications security." -- John Mayson <john@mayson.us> Austin, Texas, USA ***** Moderator's Note ***** As with the previous story from Cnet, the headline is misleading. The President's time is too valuable to have him waste any of it keyboarding, so he won't be using any kind of PDA. Instead, he'll have the services of a very large and quite competent staff who can listen to, type, print, file, and arrange his ideas and work with proper efficiency. Of course, we all cringed when the "24" program portrayed Jack Bauer using a cell phone in the aftermath of a nuclear explosion, and every adult knows that the leader of the free world shouldn't waste time typing, but there's a larger issue: so long as the media portrays President Obama as a Gen-X/Y/Whatever Wunderkind who's just like us but with better toys, television viewers will get a false impression of the responsibilities and limitations of both power and privilege. The President made in clear that he will call on Americans to pull together, and the first sacrifice we must make is giving up the quant idea that hard work gets done by magic just because someone pushed "Enter". After all, people who carry PDA's, pagers, cell phones, etc., all know that the _really_ important people are the ones on the _other_ end of their electronic leash. Bill Horne Temporary Moderator ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 22 Jan 2009 00:16:07 +0000 (UTC) From: Richie Kennedy <route56@route56.com> To: redacted@invalid.telecom.csail.mit.edu Subject: Re: Obama's new BlackBerry: The NSA's secure PDA? Message-ID: <Xns9B9AB9D382719route56@85.214.105.209> John Mayson <john@mayson.us> wrote in news:6645152a0901210707j9c91772l7ae4ce53d0235096@mail.gmail.com: > http://news.cnet.com/obamas-new-blackberry-the-nsas-secure-pda/ > > "One reason to curb presidential BlackBerrying is the possibility of > eavesdropping by hackers and other digital snoops. While Research In > Motion offers encryption, the U.S. government has stricter > requirements for communications security." > My only question: does it come in red? ***** Moderator's Note ***** Red? RED??! Shirley, you jest! The President can't have a RED PDA!! That's UNAMERICAN!! Bill Horne Temporary Moderator ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 21 Jan 2009 13:09:14 -0600 From: gordonb.nl6cz@burditt.org (Gordon Burditt) To: redacted@invalid.telecom.csail.mit.edu Subject: Re: How to block a known number or last call received Message-ID: <hbKdnVyfQ_pH7-rUnZ2dnUVZ_uydnZ2d@posted.internetamerica> >While we're on the topic, is there such a creature as a telephone that >won't ring if a call from a certain number comes across? Yes. It's not uncommon to have a cell phone that can use Caller-ID and your phone book to provide distinctive ring tones based on who's calling. (e.g. family gets one ringtone, work gets another, etc.) My Motorola RAZR V3 has this feature. The feature appears to be built into the phone, not the network. Phones generally have larger memories than the feature of blocking numbers at the network. One of those ring tones can be "Silent" (not to be confused with "Vibrate", which isn't really silent). You still get dinged for minutes, but you won't be bothered. ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 21 Jan 2009 13:26:49 -0800 (PST) From: hancock4@bbs.cpcn.com To: redacted@invalid.telecom.csail.mit.edu Subject: Re: How to block a known number or last call received Message-ID: <85cc36b3-4afd-418c-8fb5-004544b300bd@t39g2000prh.googlegroups.com> On Jan 20, 9:30 pm, John Mayson <j...@mayson.us> wrote: > ***** Moderator's Note ***** > > I have a device called "Person-To-Person" which allows me to choose > if certain area codes, exchange codes, or specific numbers go to > the "phone" jack or to the "answering machine" jack. > > I have it hooked up so that numbers I don't want to answer are > diverted to a phone without a ringer: in other words, I never know > they come in unless I look at the caller id display. Could you elaborate more about this device, e.g. where it is purchased, mfr, etc.? Sounds like a useful thing to have. Is it easy to change the list? There may be times I temporarily don't want to be disturbed from a specific number, but other times I will take such calls. Also, does the device have a converse function, that is, if an incoming call IS on a list of numbers it will come through, otherwise all non listed calls will be diverted? This will be useful in certain situations. Thanks. ***** Moderator's Note ***** It's made by Solutions Marketing, Inc. Their website is http://www.interceptorid.com/. I'm not sure if it's "flippable" from "deny" to "allow" modes, since it's intended to switch calls between phone and answering machine, but the website has a lot of info. Bill P.S. I'm not involved with the company, and I have no pecuniary interenst in their products. Bill Horne Temporary Moderator ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 21 Jan 2009 13:36:27 -0800 (PST) From: hancock4@bbs.cpcn.com To: redacted@invalid.telecom.csail.mit.edu Subject: Unwanted calls from an organization policy? Message-ID: <8186a490-90b8-4375-b806-59a0bfb29898@o11g2000yql.googlegroups.com> My condo is using an autodialer to telephone all residents with condo news bulletins. I believe the intent of this system was to alert residents of emergencies or urgent matters, such as utility outages. For example, the power had to be shut off for maintenance, and in addition to a letter, they used the system to remind residents the night before of the shutdown. I don't mind it used for such situations; indeed, I think it's a good idea. However, the condo mgmt is using it for what I think are clearly non- urgent matters, such as to announce social parties in the clubhouse (or their cancellation). That IMHO is an intrusion. I complained about it and basically they said all-on or all-off, that is, they could take me off entirely but then I'd risk not hearing emergency messages, or, I'd have to put up with the other stuff. I'd appreciate hearing the opinions of other people. As mentioned, in my opinion it should be used for urgent business only, when there is not enough time to print up and distribute a hard copy notice. Social functions or condo meetings aren't "urgent" busienss. I get the feeling they want to eliminate printing and distributing such notices altogether. Thanks! [They also intend to put information on the web, if they ever get around to it. The problem there are many of our residents do not have a computer at all, or others who do not have it connected to anything.] ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 21 Jan 2009 18:40:10 -0600 From: "Who Me?" <hitchhiker@dont.panic> To: redacted@invalid.telecom.csail.mit.edu Subject: Re: Unwanted calls from an organization policy? Message-ID: <KfPdl.11896$as4.1392@nlpi069.nbdc.sbc.com> <hancock4@bbs.cpcn.com> wrote > That IMHO is an intrusion. > > I'd appreciate hearing the opinions of other people. > > I get the feeling they want to eliminate printing and distributing such > notices > altogether. > Well you DID ask.......... I think: You should lighten up a bit and help "save a tree". I really hope that this issue is not high on your list of things that concern you. ;-) ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 21 Jan 2009 19:06:40 -0800 (PST) From: hancock4@bbs.cpcn.com To: redacted@invalid.telecom.csail.mit.edu Subject: Re: Unwanted calls from an organization policy? Message-ID: <851e2ed3-0626-4dce-bfdc-9940eab85d5a@u18g2000pro.googlegroups.com> On Jan 21, 8:26 pm, "Who Me?" <hitchhi...@dont.panic> wrote: > Well you DID ask.......... > I think: > You should lighten up a bit and help "save a tree". > I really hope that this issue is not high on your list of things that > concern you. ;-) Yes, I did ask, and that ["lighten up"] is a valid response. It's just that the 'emergency' calls always seem to come at the most inopportune time, and I get plenty of others from surveys, non-profit solicitations, and political, all legal calls that don't have to comply with the do not call list. (Thank goodness the election is over!) I certainly believe in saving trees and avoiding wasted paper. But unfortunately, they're not doing it for that, they 'think' they're saving money, not realizing they're paying far more to use the service than having a quick printer run off the copies (delivery is done by volunteers and is free). If I may disgress, modern computerized communication tools are most helpful. But like any tool, they have to be used in an appropriate manner. We don't use a chainsaw to clip a coupon or an 18-wheeler to deliver one pizza. There are times when traditional means--a piece of paper mailed--is more appropriate than an e-mail or other electronic means. For example, some years ago one organization I belong to (non profit) suddenly began sending out its newsletter via email instead of mailing it. At that time my email (through my employer) was very limited and their newsletter was enough to flood my mailbox and cause all sorts of problems. When the mailbox was flooded, I couldn't get in at all, and had to ask the system administrator to unclog it. Took a while for them to stop sending the email; apparently they arranged for someone else to do it from a list that was not easily changed. Now, things are not supposed to happen this way, but they do. Another example: Many years ago I went to PC Expo, getting my ticket by email. Now, this is a supposedly a legitimate organization. But I still get unsolicited emails from them, despite requests to stop, and they gave my address to others who spam me. Perhaps I'm being too grouchy (See Alan King's "Anyone Who Owns their own home Deserves It" on being frustrated with society.) But I do think if society is to make progress, new improvements must work better than their precedessors, not introduce new frustrations. I think that is critical to remember for those of us responsible for computers or communications development. (Or why you see employees call a co-worker on personal cell phones rather than using the razzle-dazzle company phone system because the cell phones are relatively easier to use.) ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 21 Jan 2009 12:46:05 -0800 (PST) From: Kerbey Altmann <kaltmann.invalid@invalid.pacbell.net> To: redacted@invalid.telecom.csail.mit.edu Subject: Changing email address on Telecom Digest mailing list Message-ID: <778953.5308.qm@web81507.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Help! I am changing Internet providers and need to change my email addre= ss on the Telecom Digest mailing list. I have search the digest and the website, but cannot find out how to change my email address on the mailing list. Can you please help me? Also, there must be others in the same boat, so it would seem that that reference to how to do it should be on the website or a "change/unsubscribe" link in the footer of the digest. Thank you --Kerbey Altmann ***** Moderator's Note ***** Kerbey, The information is cleverly hidden in the headers of the digest emails. I've changed the at-signs to ".at.". I suggest you try the "help" command first. List-Help: <mailto:telecom-request.at.telecom-digest.org?body=help> (List Instructions) List-Unsubscribe: (Use this command to get off the list) <mailto:telecom-request.at.telecom-digest.org?body=unsubscribe%20telecom> List-Subscribe: (Use this command to join the list) <mailto:telecom-request.at.telecom-digest.org?body=subscribe%20telecom> List-Post: <mailto:telecom.at.telecom-digest.org> List-Owner: <mailto:owner-telecom.at.telecom-digest.org> (Contact Person for Help) Bill Horne Temporary Moderator ------------------------------ Date: 22 Jan 2009 01:23:46 -0000 From: John Levine <johnl@iecc.com> To: redacted@invalid.telecom.csail.mit.edu Subject: Re: Changing email address on Telecom Digest mailing list Message-ID: <20090122012346.35760.qmail@simone.iecc.com> In article <778953.5308.qm@web81507.mail.mud.yahoo.com> you write: >Help! I am changing Internet providers and need to change my email >address on the Telecom Digest mailing list. Unlike some of that cheap off-brand list management software, ours handles address changes directly. Write from your NEW address to majordomo@telecom-digest.org and in the body of the message put: changeaddr oldaddr@oldisp.com (where oldaddr@oldisp.com is your old address, of course.) It'll send confirmation messages to the old and then new addresses to be sure you're for real. Just click the URL in the confirmation messages. R's, John, mailing list wrangler ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 21 Jan 2009 22:45:20 -0500 From: Bill Horne <bill@horneQRM.net> To: redacted@invalid.telecom.csail.mit.edu Subject: Re: Changing email address on Telecom Digest mailing list Message-ID: <TqWdndhh3JtMdurUnZ2dnUVZ_vudnZ2d@speakeasy.net> John Levine wrote: > In article <778953.5308.qm@web81507.mail.mud.yahoo.com> you write: >> Help! I am changing Internet providers and need to change my email >> address on the Telecom Digest mailing list. > > Unlike some of that cheap off-brand list management software, ours > handles address changes directly. Write from your NEW address to > majordomo@telecom-digest.org and in the body of the message put: > > changeaddr oldaddr@oldisp.com > > (where oldaddr@oldisp.com is your old address, of course.) > > It'll send confirmation messages to the old and then new addresses to > be sure you're for real. Just click the URL in the confirmation > messages. Out beloved Majordomo software is a little bit like a #5 crossbar exchange: it can do many extraordinary things, but it requires a degree of care and feeding and attention and love that is occasionally off-putting to those who have been schooled in somewhat less staid and conservative products. I understand that those who are used to wrangling a horse and buggy might feel uncomfortable riding in a Model A: having been honored to work in an office with several #5 crossbar exchanges, I can attest to the deep emotional attachments that grow up over time between dedicated men and the tools they use. For reasons known only to either RMS or he-who-greps, the subject lines of emails sent to the Majordomo software do not count, and therefor I must amend the "Help" address I gave earlier. To get help from the majordomo robot, use this (slightly modified) address: mailto:majordomo@telecom-digestTAKEOUT.org?Subject=Does_Not_Matter&body=help .. I hope this clears up some of the confusion. At some time in the future, I will make the journey to Delphi and seek guidance from The Oracle as to why the "List" headers Majordomo puts out do not do what I had expected. I will ask humbly, and report back on The Oracle's answer. Bill -- Bill Horne Temporary Moderator Telecom Digest (When sending a post to the digest, please put "" {without the quotes but _with_ the brackets} at the end of your subject line, or I may never see your mail. Thanks!) (Remove QRM from my address for direct replies.) ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 21 Jan 2009 12:46:05 -0800 (PST) From: Kerbey Altmann <kaltmann.invalid@invalid.pacbell.net> To: redacted@invalid.telecom.csail.mit.edu Subject: {Updated} Changing email address on Telecom Digest mailing list Message-ID: <778953.5308.qn@telecom-digest.org> Help! I am changing Internet providers and need to change my email addre= ss on the Telecom Digest mailing list. I have search the digest and the website, but cannot find out how to change my email address on the mailing list. Can you please help me? Also, there must be others in the same boat, so it would seem that that reference to how to do it should be on the website or a "change/unsubscribe" link in the footer of the digest. Thank you --Kerbey Altmann ***** Moderator's Note ***** (Resent to correct the "help" email. Sorry about that.) Kerbey, The information is cleverly hidden in the headers of the digest emails. I've changed the at-signs to ".at.". I suggest you try the "help" command first. List-Help: <mailto:telecom-request.at.telecom-digest.org?subject=Does_Not_Matter&body=help> (List Instructions) List-Unsubscribe: (Use this command to get off the list) <mailto:telecom-request.at.telecom-digest.org?subject=Does_Not_Matter&body=unsubscribe%20telecom> List-Subscribe: (Use this command to join the list) <mailto:telecom-request.at.telecom-digest.org?subject=Does_Not_Matter&body=subscribe%20telecom> List-Post: <mailto:telecom.at.telecom-digest.org> List-Owner: <mailto:owner-telecom.at.telecom-digest.org> (Contact Person for Help) Bill Horne Temporary Moderator ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 21 Jan 2009 20:36:07 -0500 From: Monty Solomon <monty@roscom.com> To: redacted@invalid.telecom.csail.mit.edu Subject: Apple Reports First Quarter Results Message-ID: <p06240861c59d7d6cee19@[10.0.1.6]> Apple Reports First Quarter Results Best Quarterly Revenue and Earnings in Apple History iPod Sales Set New Record CUPERTINO, California-January 21, 2009-Apple today announced financial results for its fiscal 2009 first quarter ended December 27, 2008. The Company posted record revenue of $10.17 billion and record net quarterly profit of $1.61 billion, or $1.78 per diluted share. These results compare to revenue of $9.6 billion and net quarterly profit of $1.58 billion, or $1.76 per diluted share, in the year-ago quarter. Gross margin was 34.7 percent, equal to the year-ago quarter. International sales accounted for 46 percent of the quarter's revenue. In accordance with the subscription accounting treatment required by GAAP, the Company recognizes revenue and cost of goods sold for iPhone and Apple TV over their economic lives. Adjusting GAAP sales and product costs to eliminate the impact of subscription accounting, the corresponding non-GAAP measures* for the quarter are $11.8 billion of "Adjusted Sales" and $2.3 billion of "Adjusted Net Income." Apple sold 2,524,000 Macintosh computers during the quarter, representing nine percent unit growth over the year-ago quarter. The Company sold a record 22,727,000 iPods during the quarter, representing three percent unit growth over the year-ago quarter. Quarterly iPhone units sold were 4,363,000, representing 88 percent unit growth over the year-ago quarter. http://www.apple.com/pr/library/2009/01/21results.html http://images.apple.com/pr/pdf/q109data_sum.pdf ------------------------------ TELECOM Digest is an electronic journal devoted mostly to telecom- munications topics. It is circulated anywhere there is email, in addition to Usenet, where it appears as the moderated newsgroup 'comp.dcom.telecom'. TELECOM Digest is a not-for-profit, mostly non-commercial educational service offered to the Internet by Patrick Townson. All the contents of the Digest are compilation-copyrighted. You may reprint articles in some other media on an occasional basis, but please attribute my work and that of the original author. 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