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TELECOM Digest     Wed, 30 Nov 2005 15:34:00 EST    Volume 24 : Issue 541

Inside This Issue:                             Editor: Patrick A. Townson

    Class Action Lawsuit Against SBC by Its Employees (Cohen, Millstein)
    WSIS Report - ccTLD Problems Linger (Ronda Hauben)
    Report: Security Flaw Allows Wiretaps to be Evaded (harold@hallikainen.com)
    Cyberspace Assistance to Kashmir Earthquake Victims (Terry Friel)
    Google Sees Advertisers Devoting More Money to Online Ads (Eric Auchard)
    TDC Recommends $12B Takeover Offer (USTelecom dailyLead )
    Cellular-News for Wednesday 30th November 2005 (Cellular-News)
    Verizon GTE Merger -- How Did it go? (Lisa Hancock)
    Re: When is TDMA Being Phased Out? (Lisa Hancock)
    Re: JFK Assassination (George Mitchell)
    Re: Voicepulse Owns Your Number (Scott Dorsey)
    Re: Showdown With USA Over Internet Control (Scott Dorsey)

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From: Cohen, Millsteien, et al <barton@chmt.com>   
Subject: Class Action Lawsuit Against SBC by Its Employees
Date: Wed, 30 Nov 2005 01:34:58 -0600


Lawsuit Concerning Elimination and Reduction of SBC Telephone
Concession Plan Benefits Filed On Behalf of Current and Former
Employees and Retirees of SBC, Ameritech, Pacific Telesis and Southern
New England Telephone.

Cohen, Milstein, Hausfeld & Toll, P.L.L.C.  has filed a complaint
against SBC Telecommunications (and its predecessors) concerning the
management of and the reduction of benefits by the SBC Telephone
Concession Plan.  This lawsuit alleges that SBC violated nearly every
provision of the Employee Retirement Income Security Act ("ERISA")
governing defined benefit plans with respect to the SBC Telephone
Concession Plan (the "Plan") by failing to treat the provision of the
Telephone Concession to retirees as an ERISA covered employee benefit
plan.  This lawsuit seeks a determination that the Plan is a defined
benefit pension plan covered by ERISA, seeks to reform the Plan so
that it complies with ERISA and also seeks to restore telephone
concession benefits to retirees and other employees of SBC (and its
predecessors and/or affiliates) who were vested in the Plan pursuant
to ERISA which SBC has attempted to eliminate or reduce.

This lawsuit is filed on behalf of the following groups of retirees
and employees: (1) Retirees of SBC or a predecessor of SBC (including,
but not limited to Ameritech, Pacific Telesis and Southern New England
Telephone) who were entitled to receive received the Telephone
Concession Benefit after they retired; or (2) Current or former
employees of SBC with more than five years of service during the time
that SBC had a policy to provide employees with a Telephone Concession
Benefit upon retirement.

If you are a current, former or retired employee of SBC (or its
predecessors and/or affiliates) who are receiving or did receive the
telephone concession benefit, or you have information which might
assist us in the prosecution of these allegations, please contact one
of the following persons:

                  R. Joseph Barton, Esq. jbarton@cmht.com
                  Jill Soroka  jsoroka@cmht.com
                  Cohen, Milstein, Hausfeld & Toll, P.L.L.C.
                  1100 New York Avenue, N.W., Suite 500
                  Washington, D.C. 20005
                  Telephone: 888-240-0775 or 202-408-4600

The law firm of Cohen, Milstein, Hausfeld & Toll, P.L.L.C., is a
nationally recognized plaintiffs' class action law firm and has
significant experience in representing employees injured by corporate
misconduct. The firm's reputation for excellence has been recognized
on repeated occasions by courts which have appointed the firm to lead
positions in complex multi-district or consolidated litigation. Cohen,
Milstein, Hausfeld & Toll's ERISA practice is headed by Marc
I. Machiz, formerly the Department of Labor's chief ERISA lawyer.

Cohen, Milstein, Hausfeld & Toll, P.L.L.C.  1100 New York Ave. NW, Ste
500, West Tower Washington, D.C. 20005 T: 202.408.4600 F: 202.408.4699
E: info@cmht.com 

Copyright 2005 CMHT

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From: Ronda Hauben <ronda@panix.com>
Subject: WSIS Report - ccTLD Problems Linger
Date: Wed, 30 Nov 2005 15:53:26 UTC
Organization: PANIX Public Access Internet and UNIX, NYC


I recently returned from the WSIS meeting in Tunis and found it a
very interesting experience.

The ICANN problem, however, remains unsolved.

My article in OhmyNews discusses some of the problem outstanding with
the ccTLD's and ICANN.

"WSIS Proves a Summit of Unsolved Solutions" 

http://english.ohmynews.com/articleview/article_view.asp?no=260786&rel_no=1

excerpt:

"A criticism of ICANN is that it focuses on commercialization issues,
rather than internationalization issues. Instead of extending ccTLDs
to include other alphabets like Chinese, ICANN focuses on the
interests of the trademark holder community."

"It was clear from the Tunis Summit that the frustration expressed by
governments around the world that was not addressed, will continue to
impact Internet governance developments in various ways."


Best wishes,

Ronda

ronda.netizen@gmail.com
http://www.columbia.edu/~hauben/netbook/

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From: harold@hallikainen.com 
Subject: Security Flaw Allows Wiretaps to be Evaded, Study Finds
Date: 30 Nov 2005 08:31:46 -0800
Organization: http://groups.google.com


 From Benton Communications Headlines (http://www.benton.org).

SECURITY FLAW ALLOWS WIRETAPS TO BE EVADED, STUDY FINDS [SOURCE: New
York Times, AUTHOR: John Schwartz and John Markoff]

The technology used for decades by law enforcement agents to wiretap
telephones has a security flaw that allows the person being wiretapped
to stop the recorder remotely, according to research by computer
security experts who studied the system. It is also possible to
falsify the numbers dialed, they said.
http://www.nytimes.com/2005/11/30/national/30tap.html?pagewanted=all
(requires registration)

This is the first I'd heard of the "c-tone'.

Harold

FCC Rules updated daily at http://www.hallikainen.com

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From: Terry Friel <reuters@telecom-digest.org>  
Subject: Cyberspace Comes to Aid of Kashmir Earthquake Survivors
Date: Wed, 30 Nov 2005 12:33:04 -0600


By Terry Friel

As Pakistan and India were still floundering to respond in the early
hours after the Kashmir quake, a convoy laden with supplies snaked its
way along the debris-cluttered road to one of the worst-hit areas in
Pakistan.

The mission of mercy began with a simple SMS in Islamabad.

The armies and emergency services of India and Pakistan were caught
largely off guard by the October 8 quake that killed more than 73,000
and made millions homeless, but new technology is allowing ordinary
people to step in and help in a major way.

"(The) army has been very inefficient and poor with their response and
efforts," said Zohare Haider, a project coordinator at Nortel in
Islamabad who helped organize that early convoy and has been arranging
more support since through his Web log, or blog, Shakethequake
(http://zohare.blogspot.com).

"The Sunday after the quake, a friend sent an SMS saying we should get
together and help out," wrote Haider, replying to an Internet
message. ""We all met at his house ... and that's when things just
went out of control."

Haider has now quit Nortel to work for a relief agency.

Within hours, the group had scraped together 12 truckloads of food,
blankets, medicine and supplies and almost 30 million Pakistani rupees
and were on their way to Balakot in Pakistan's North West Frontier
Province.

DONATIONS BY SMS

Spurred by the success of blogs on the Indian Ocean tsunami and
Hurricane Katrina, bloggers have opened up new sites to raise and
channel donations, coordinate efforts on the ground and match
volunteers and donors with aid groups and projects.

SMS, or text messaging, has also been used for everything from
coordinating aid to letting people in the United States make donations
a few cents at a time and have it added to their monthly cellphone
bill.

Blogs such as Quakehelp http://quakehelp.blogspot.com have had tens
of thousands of hits, many in the early days of the Kashmir
disaster. Postings range from NGOs calling for volunteers and doctors
to discussions on the best material for winter shelters and appeals
for more supplies.

Contributors include aid groups and ordinary Net surfers. Because they
act in a way like community noticeboards, putting people in touch with
each other, bloggers say they have no way of knowing how much aid they
raise.

It is not the first time blogs have helped in the wake of a major
disaster.  They were prominent after the tsunami and Hurricane
Katrina. Many of those behind Kashmir quake blogs also blogged the
tsunami, Katrina and Hurricane Rita.

Mumbai-based writer Peter Griffin, one of a loose group from around
the world that set up Quakehelp, said their Katrina blog drew more
than a million hits a day at its peak.

"I'd put that down to the much higher Internet access in the USA," he
said.

The sensitivities involved in Indian and Pakistani Kashmir, where both
armies are faced off over a ceasefire line, have made aid work harder,
bloggers say.

"The information hasn't been easy to find," said Griffin. "It's a
sensitive area politically and a remote, almost hostile land."

Quake survivors in Indian and Pakistani Kashmir complain official aid
was slow to reach them in the critical early days and some say their
armies were too slow to respond.

But the armies were also hopelessly short of resources for dealing
with a disaster on such a colossal scale, as well as being badly hit
by casualties themselves, and have been praised by aid agencies for
the way they have built up their efforts.

Copyright 2005 Reuters Limited.

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From: Eric Auchard <reuters@telecom-digest.org>
Subject: Google Sees Advertisers Devoting More to Budget Online
Date: Wed, 30 Nov 2005 12:34:46 -0600


Google sees advertisers devote more budget online
By Eric Auchard2 hours, 22 minutes ago

Corporate marketers have made online advertising a standard part in media
budgets as online spending looks set to accelerate further in 2006, Google
Inc.'s North American sales chief said late on Tuesday.

Tim Armstrong, Google's advertising sales vice president, said in an
interview before the Reuters Media and Advertising Summit that 2005 marked
the turning point when advertisers switched from testing to investing in the
decade-old medium.

"There is robust interest in online advertising and that interest is now
turning into real dollars," Armstrong said, noting that market analysts are
predicting a banner 2005 year with forecasts ranging from $10 billion to $15
billion.

"The experimenting and testing phase begun in the 1990s has ended. Corporate
ad buyers are investing now," he said.

Jupiter Research estimates the U.S. online advertising market will grow 28
percent over last year, to $11.9 billion in 2005 to $13.6 billion in 2006
and $15.1 billion in 2007.

By contrast, Google, which dominates the fast-growing market for
keyword-search advertising, has been growing at three times the industry
rate, or around 100 percent a year.

Industry estimates put Google's market share at 30 percent of overall online
ad spending, with as much as 40 percent of the category it dominates -- paid
search.

Armstrong said two factors are driving the race to boost budgets. Consumer
adoption of the Web has far outpaced advertisers commitment to the medium.
More recently, Madison Avenue executives have begun advising clients to
close the gap by committing more dollars online, Armstrong said.

The budget shift is benefiting not just Google but Yahoo Inc. and Microsoft
Corp.'s MSN, he said.

The acceleration of online ad budgets can be measured by the increasing
number of companies marketing through online channels, the growing number of
divisions within each company using the online medium and the percentages
committed online relative to other media, the Google executive said.

While estimates vary, analysts believe around 5 percent of U.S. advertising
dollars will be spent online this year, up from around 2 percent just a
couple of year ago. In short order, 10 percent or more could move online,
analysts say.

"Some are putting 10 percent or even more than 10 percent of their 2006
budgets into online," Armstrong said. By no means all companies are at this
stage, he said but the tide has turned.

Google is making progress on its strategy expanding beyond keywords to offer
advertising anywhere, Armstrong said.

"We started with text, we now offer graphic ads and are moving into print
advertising," Armstrong said. Google has been selling print advertisements
in a select number of technology trade publications and are talking to major
publishers about expanding this approach across a variety of niche markets.

Video advertising will be a natural extension of these existing efforts,
part of Google's long-term strategy to offer relevant advertising wherever
possible.

Google's accelerating growth is being driven by brand advertising and
site-targeting campaigns that extend beyond its core keyword advertising
business, Armstrong said.

Executives of the Mountain view, California company have previously said
that more than 25 of the top 100 online advertisers are using its site
targeting tools, which allow advertisers to create custom ad campaigns on
hundreds of the most relevant sites to a specific message.

Armstrong declined to say how many more of these major advertisers had
adopted its site-targeting tools, saying only that, "We have seen continued
growth within those major advertisers."

(For other news from the Reuters Advertising and Media Summit, click on
http://today.reuters.com/summit/SummitInfo.aspx?name=MediaSummit05&pid=500 )

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Date: Wed, 30 Nov 2005 12:50:37 EST
From: USTelecom dailyLead <ustelecom@dailylead.com>
Subject: TDC Recommends $12B Takeover Offer


USTelecom dailyLead
November 30, 2005
http://r.smartbrief.com/resp/zikIatagCyxsBJbzuF

		TODAY'S HEADLINES
	
NEWS OF THE DAY
* TDC recommends $12B takeover offer
BUSINESS & INDUSTRY WATCH
* Cingular links wireless service with AT&T's local phone service
* AT&T to sponsor U.S. Olympic Team in 2006, 2008
* Intel announces Viiv partners
* High-ranking Nortel executives leave company
USTELECOM SPOTLIGHT
* 2005 USTelecom Industry Directory
TECHNOLOGY TRENDS
* Analysis: Next 12 months could be big for IMS
* Battle for control of the digital living room
* Report sees acceleration of switch to mobile, VoIP services
REGULATORY & LEGISLATIVE
* FCC to take a second look at a la carte cable pricing
* Vonage among companies that missed Monday's E911 deadline

Follow the link below to read quick summaries of these stories and others.
http://r.smartbrief.com/resp/zikIatagCyxsBJbzuF

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Subject: Cellular-News for Wednesday 30th November 2005
Date: Wed, 30 Nov 2005 07:44:30 -0600
From: Cellular-News <dailydigest@cellular-news-mail.com>


Cellular-News - http://www.cellular-news.com

[[ 3G ]]

India Min:To Decide On 3G Spectrum Allocation By March
http://www.cellular-news.com/story/15019.php

The Indian government expects to decide by March whether to allow
local telecommunications companies to offer third generation, or 3G,
mobile phone services, said Communications and Information Technology
Minister Dayanidhi Maran Tuesday. ...

Ericsson's HSDPA Now Used In 15 Countries
http://www.cellular-news.com/story/15022.php

Telefon AB LM Ericsson said Tuesday its third-generation wireless
technology upgrade solution HSDPA is now in operation in 15 countries
in Asia, the Middle East, Africa, Europe and North America. ...

Chinese Academy Buys 3G Test Tool
http://www.cellular-news.com/story/15026.php

Dilithium Networks says that CATR (China Academy of Telecommunications
Research of M.I.I.), the national telecom research institution of the
Chinese government, has purchased the DNA (Dilithium Networks
Analyzer), a 3G protocol analysis and test tool...

[[ Handsets ]]

Ningbo Bird Secures Indian Handset Distribution Deal
http://www.cellular-news.com/story/15025.php

China's Ningbo Bird has announced the formal launch of its GSM
handsets under the brand name of Bird in western India from Ahmedabad
in Gujarat. Targeting the low-end customers, the company has launched
seven new GSM mobile phones priced starting fro...

Nokia Adds WLAN to Smartphone
http://www.cellular-news.com/story/15028.php

Nokia has added WiFi connectivity to its existing PDA handset, the
Nokia 9300. The Nokia 9300i incorporates WLAN connectivity with a full
keyboard, 65,536-color screen, support for a broad range of enterprise
email solutions and an attachment viewer....

Top Selling Handsets in November
http://www.cellular-news.com/story/15029.php

The Swedish manufacturer of carrying cases for portable electronics,
Krusell, has released their "Top 10" list for November 2005. No
changes at the top of this month's list from Krusell. Stable Sony
Ericsson W800 will probably stay even for...

[[ Legal ]]

Government Fines KT KRW2.8 Billion For "Unfair" Mobile Resale Practice
http://www.cellular-news.com/story/15017.php

The South Korean government has fined KT Corp., South Korea's largest
fixed-line operator, KRW2.8 billion ($1=KRW1,036) for "unfair"
practices related to the resale of mobile phones. ...

Vodafone to sue Russian company for brand violation
http://www.cellular-news.com/story/15020.php

The U.K.'s telecommunication company Vodafone Group plans to start
court proceedings against Russia's Vodafone Telecom to regain the
right to use its trademark in Russia, Vedomosti business daily
reported Tuesday quoting Vodafone Group's Spokesman Bo...

Alfa Group says not seeking to raise stake in Turkcell 
http://www.cellular-news.com/story/15021.php

Russia's Alfa Group (ALFAGP.YY) said Tuesday it isn't seeking to
increase its 13.22% stake in Turkey's mobile-phone operator Turkcell
Iletisim Hizmetleri AS (TKC). ...

[[ Mobile Content ]]

Network Operators Dominate Mobile Games Sales - report
http://www.cellular-news.com/story/15024.php

As several mobile games publishers announce their intentions to launch
direct-to-consumer sales of mobile games, M:Metrics says that it has
found that the vast majority of mobile game consumers rely on their
carriers to inform their mobile game purch...

[[ Network Contracts ]]

Orange Inks Deal With Cingular For Business Customers
http://www.cellular-news.com/story/15016.php 

Orange, the  mobile telecommunications arm of  France Telecom, Tuesday
said it has signed a  deal with U.S. mobile operator Cingular Wireless
to provide multinational  business customers with better international
services. ...

New Orleans Mayor Launches Free Internet Wireless System
http://www.cellular-news.com/story/15023.php

NEW ORLEANS (AP)--Hurricane-ravaged New Orleans is starting the U.S.'s
first free wireless Internet network owned and run by a major city, a
move aimed at boosting the city's stalled economy, Mayor Ray Nagin
announced at a news conference Tuesday. ...

Nokia Wins Indonesian GSM Contract
http://www.cellular-news.com/story/15027.php

Indonesia's Indosat has chosen Nokia to expand its GSM network in Bali
and Java, excluding Jabotabek (Jakarta and surrounding areas), with
radio network and circuit and packet switched core networks. Nokia
will also supply cellular transmission for E...

[[ Statistics ]]

Mexico's 3Q Telecom Sector Growth Is Fastest In 5 Years
http://www.cellular-news.com/story/15015.php

Mexico's telecommunications industry grew at its fastest pace in five
years during the third quarter, the sector regulator said Monday. ...

African Americans and Hispanics Lead Mobile Culture
http://www.cellular-news.com/story/15030.php

When it comes to the use of enhanced mobile features such as texting
and downloading ringtones, African Americans and Hispanics lead the
market, a national study finds. "If you want to know where mobile
technology is going, watch these two groups of ...

[[ Technology ]]

Texas Instruments Unveils New Chips For Advanced Phones
http://www.cellular-news.com/story/15018.php

DALLAS (AP)--Texas Instruments Inc. says it is testing two new
semiconductor chipsets that could mark the next step in making
so-called third-generation mobile phones more affordable and widely
available. ...

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From: hancock4@bbs.cpcn.com
Subject: Verizon GTE Merger -- How Did it Go?
Date: 30 Nov 2005 07:35:52 -0800
Organization: http://groups.google.com


A while back Verizon (formerly Bell Atlantic and Nynex NY Telephone et
al) acquired GTE -- General Telephone & Electronics local phone
companies.  GTE was the biggest of the "independents", that is, local
telephone companies not affiliated with the Bell System.

I was wondering how well the integration of GTE into Verizon was
working.

The former Bell System was heavilly standardized, down to the pens on
desktops.  Most equipment came from Western Electric and usually
(though not always) was the same throughout the country.  By equipment
I mean switchgear, carrier technology, and local loop plant (and pay
phones).  Also, business practices were somewhat consistent, such as
rate plans and service representative styles.

In contrast, I don't know how much GTE was standardized.  For one
thing, GTE was made up of smaller local independent companies acquired
or traded over the years.  In the 1970s, many local companies
"swapped" exchanges so as to give each other contiguous areas instead
of a patchwork for more efficiency.

GTE owned a supplier, Automatic Electric.  However, I wonder if GTE
was so strictly wedded to AE as was Bell to Western.  In other words,
over the years perhaps equipment from other suppliers was used as
well.  My impression was that GTE was always more "informal" and less
rigid than the Bell System in doing things.  (Just as Remington
Rand/Sperry Univac was much more informal than IBM in the computer
industry).

A key difference between Bell and GTE was that overall GTE (and the
other independents) tended to serve much less densely populated areas.
A map of Pennsylvania shows half the land mass of the state served by
"independents" yet the vast majority of phones were under Bell
control.  Historically, Bell gained control of the cities and nearby
suburbs while the independents were generally left with the rural
areas (there are some exceptions).  I wonder if this characteristic
has impacted the merger.

Merging two dis-similar organizations can bring down both if not done
carefully.  The Penn Central Railroad is the classic example of how
not to do a merger.  In more recent years, megarailroad and airline
mergers have had troubles too.

[public replies, please]

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From: hancock4@bbs.cpcn.com
Subject: Re: When is TDMA Being Phased Out?
Date: 30 Nov 2005 07:24:37 -0800
Organization: http://groups.google.com


> [TELECOM Digest Editor's Note: The word from Mike Alexander, Cingular
> Wireless customer service/sales manager here in Independence is that
> it will s-l-o-w-l-y disappear a tower at a time. I switched my
> personal phone from TDMA to GSM ....

Could someone describe what is "TDMA" and "GSM" in layman's terms?  I
presume these are communication protocols and are not compatible with
each other.  Is one analog?

Do other carriers (ie Verizon) use them or other protocols?  Does
Verizon have any protocols that are going away?

I guess now there are three big cellular companies -- Verizon, Cingular,
and VoiceStream?  Is Sprint still independent or did they merge?

I get the impression all three companies are actually a hodgepodge of
smaller companies they acquired and merged into along the way.  That
means service quality of a particular carrier will vary greatly from
one part of the country to another, just as landline service varies
greatly.  (In Verizon particularly which is made up of many different
companies).


[TELECOM Digest Editor's Note: Sprint merged with Nextel recently, or
bought them out, one or the other. Nextel at present is totally
useless around this area in Kansas; however Sprint is a big thing. I
suppose the merger will bring Nextel around here soon.   PAT]

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From: George Mitchell <george@m5p.com>
Subject: Re: JFK Assassination
Date: Wed, 30 Nov 2005 10:53:48 -0800
Organization: Posted via Supernews, http://www.supernews.com


hancock4@bbs.cpcn.com wrote:

> It is not surprising that TV equipment still contained many tubes.  It
> would do so for a number of years.

And still does.  Perhaps you're familiar with the cathode ray _tube_?

-- George Mitchell

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From: kludge@panix.com (Scott Dorsey)
Subject: Re: Voicepulse Owns Your Number
Date: 30 Nov 2005 14:09:31 -0500
Organization: Former users of Netcom shell (1989-2000)


Steve Sobol  <sjsobol@JustThe.net> wrote:

> Michael D. Sullivan wrote:

>> Fred, you can file a complaint with the FCC 

> Which will be ignored, since the FCC doesn't regulate VoIP.

They do regulate number assignment, though.  I don't think the issue
itself is VoIP-related, to be honest.  

 --scott

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From: kludge@panix.com (Scott Dorsey)
Subject: Re: Showdown with USA Over Internet Control
Date: 30 Nov 2005 14:08:16 -0500
Organization: Former users of Netcom shell (1989-2000)


<nospam4me@mytrashmail.com> wrote:

> So what would you have ICANN do about spam and other forms of
> anti-social net behavior?

The same thing that SRI did, before ICANN existed.  Disconnect sites
that refuse to control their problem customers.

Very simple.  The reason that spam exists is because some ISPs permit it.
The reason that some ISPs permit it is because backbone sites permit it.

Shutting off connectivity to kornet and thrunet would about halve
the spam problem, right there.

If backbone sites took spam seriously, it would go away.  If ICANN took
spam seriously, backbone sites would have to.

<jmeissen@aracnet.com> wrote:

> I'm afraid you're overstating things a bit.

> ICANN's arbitration authority is over the domain name. Period. It
> has nothing to do with the content hosted at any site. They have
> no control over any website (other than their own), simply the
> name by which it's referenced.

Yes. They can say "your service is not appropriate and therefore we
refuse to allow bulkemail.com (a former uunet customer) to receive
DNS."  Furthermore, they can shut off the uunet dns until uunet gets
their spam problem under control.

JUST like Postel did with problem customers back in the days when he
ran the name server.

scott

"C'est un Nagra.  C'est suisse, et tres, tres precis."


[TELECOM Digest Editor's Note: __Thank you very much__ for speaking
the truth on this, something which seems to be in very short
supply where the liars at ICANN and their mouthpiece Vint Cerf are
concerned. I have said time and time again that spam could be cut
back considerably if ICANN would just make it happen. But ICANN and
Vint Cerf are not about to make that happen; their preference, (and
the loud mouths of their choir of apologists) _like_ seeing the
internet gradually being converted to a totally commercial thing. When
did Postel pass? Was it 1993 or 1994? They couldn't wait to get the
net out of his hands and into theirs. 

I know that about that time, their flunkies, the International Telecom
Union (ITU) decided to start humoring (and attempting to bribe?)
people like myself with gobs of money to sing to their tune. ITU
promptly started sending me $500 per month and they did so
'faithfully' every quarter -- 3 months, $1500 -- clear up through the
end of 1999 when they saw I would not be quiet and do things their
way. Then a message or two they considered to be particularly
outragous appeared here and bingo! that was it for my 'sponsorship'. 

That monthly hush money started about the time that I was on that long
distance telephone conference call with Vint Cerf and asked him what
the hell was going to happen to us little users who only wanted to use
the net for its originally intended purpose?  Cerf had no answers but
then shortly thereafter the money started showing up here.

Nah ... don't count on anything but spam, scam and more deterioration
of the net as long as ICANN is our governor. It just won't happen. PAT]

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