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TELECOM Digest Wed, 16 Nov 2005 14:25:00 EST Volume 24 : Issue 522 Inside This Issue: Editor: Patrick A. Townson US to Keep Control of Internet But Offers Concession (Andy Sullivan) US Tech Firms Set Adware Guidelines (Kenneth Li & Jerome Pelofsky) Google to Let Users Publish Information on Line, per WSJ (Reuters NewsWire) Publishers Suing Google (Paul Andrews) CD's Recalled for Posing Risk to PC's (Monty Solomon) Cellular-News for Wednesday 16th November 2005 (Cellular-News) My New Cell Phone, Nokia 6010 (TELECOM Digest Editor) USTARcom Wins China Telecom IPTV Contract (USTA Daily Lead) Re: Comcast, Verizon Wage Licensing War/Towns Caught in Crossfire (meissen) Re: Comcast, Verizon Wage Licensing War/Towns Caught in Crossfire (Lichter) Re: Comcast, Verizon Wage Licensing War/Towns Caught in Crossfire (harold) Re: USA Wants Wiretap on Internet Calls Expanded (Clark W. Griswold, Jr.) Re: Imagine All Your Information in One Convenient Place (Tom Betz) Last Laugh! Announcement For Our [Sick] Members (xiyalun@yahoo.com) Telecom and VOIP (Voice over Internet Protocol) Digest for the Internet. All contents here are copyrighted by Patrick Townson and the individual writers/correspondents. Articles may be used in other journals or newsgroups, provided the writer's name and the Digest are included in the fair use quote. By using -any name or email address- included herein for -any- reason other than responding to an article herein, you agree to pay a hundred dollars to the recipients of the email. =========================== Addresses herein are not to be added to any mailing list, nor to be sold or given away without explicit written consent. Chain letters, viruses, porn, spam, and miscellaneous junk are definitely unwelcome. We must fight spam for the same reason we fight crime: not because we are naive enough to believe that we will ever stamp it out, but because we do not want the kind of world that results when no one stands against crime. Geoffrey Welsh =========================== See the bottom of this issue for subscription and archive details and the name of our lawyer; other stuff of interest. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Andy Sullivan <reuters@telecom-digest.org> Subject: US to Keeps Control But Offers a Concession Date: Wed, 16 Nov 2005 10:56:46 -0600 By Andy Sullivan and Astrid Wendlandt The United States will keep control of the domain-name system that guides online traffic under an agreement on Wednesday seen as a setback to efforts to internationalize one of the pillars of the Internet. Negotiators at the United Nations World Summit on the Information Society said the USA and ICANN had agreed allow those other countries to set up a forum to _discuss_ 'spam' e-mail and Internet crime and 'explore' ways to narrow the technology gap between rich and poor countries. The forum will _not_ be permitted to implement or enforce any decisions it may reach after the 'discussions', merely make its recommendations to the USA. Final authority of the domain-name system and other issues will remain with the United States, a setback for the European Union and other countries that had pushed for international control of one of the most important technical aspects of the Internet. The European Union said in a statement that the agreement would lead to "further internationalization of Internet governance, and enhanced intergovernmental cooperation to this end." "In the short term, U.S. oversight is not immediately challenged, but in the long term they are under the obligation to negotiate with all the states about the future and evolution of Internet governance," said a member of the EU delegation who declined to be identified. The U.S. said the agreement essentially endorses the status quo. "There's nothing new in this document that wasn't already out there before," said Ambassador David Gross, the head of the U.S. delegation. "We have no concerns that it could morph into something unsavory, or that spam and crime will get any worse, " he said about the forum. The summit was launched two years ago with a focus on bringing technology to the developing world, but U.S. control of the domain-name system had become a sticking point for countries like Iran and Brazil, who argued that it should be managed by the United Nations or some other global body so that it would become and remain neutral. The United States argued that such a body would stifle innovation with red tape. The EU in recent months had sought to reach a compromise between the two sides, saying that 'red tape' and politics was more likely with United States control of the net than any of them. "Let me be absolutely clear: the United Nations does not want to take over, police or otherwise control the Internet," said UN Secretary General Kofi Annan. "Day-to-day running of the Internet must be left to neutral non-political technical institutions, not least to shield it from the heat of day to day politics and business decisions." Under the agreement, a California nonprofit body known as the Internet Corporation for Assigned Names and Numbers, or ICANN, will continue to oversee the system that matches addresses like "reuters.com" with numerical addresses that computers can understand. Individual countries will have greater control over their own domains, such as China's .cn or France's .fr. Disputes have arisen on occasion between national governments and the independent administrators assigned to manage these domains by ICANN. Businesses, technical experts and human-rights groups will be allowed to participate along with governments in the forum, which will first meet in early 2006, to 'discuss and explore' the issues of spam and crime on the net. "Internet governance requires a multi-stakeholder approach. This is why we have suffered such agonies in our discussions on Internet governance," said Yoshio Utsumi, who heads the International Telecommunications Union, the UN organization that sponsored the summit. (Additional reporting by Huw Jones in Brussels) Copyright 2005 Reuters Limited. NOTE: For more telecom/internet/networking/computer news from the daily media, check out our feature 'Telecom Digest Extra' each day at http://telecom-digest.org/td-extra/more-news.html . Hundreds of new articles daily. ------------------------------ From: Kenneth Li & Jeremy Pelofsky <reuters@telecom-digest.org> Subject: US Tech Firms to Set Adware Guidelines Date: Wed, 16 Nov 2005 11:03:23 -0600 By Kenneth Li and Jeremy Pelofsky Top U.S. technology companies plan to unveil on Wednesday new guidelines aimed at combating unwanted software that tracks the behavior of Web users and generates pop-up ads, sources familiar with the matter said on Tuesday. The parties include Time Warner Inc.'s online division AOL, Verizon Communications, the Center for Democracy and Technology, CNET Networks Inc., CA , Yahoo Inc. and nonprofit online privacy organization TRUSTe, the sources said. TRUSTe will administer a best-practices "standard of good behavior for adware companies and companies more broadly that distribute downloadable software," said one source, who declined to be identified. "It's designed to get the worst of the bad actors out," explained the source, regarding the guideline's intent. The program, which will be unveiled at a news conference in Washington, is expected to be called the "Trusted Download Program," another source said. Since the companies would not do business with those adware firms that do not have TRUSTe certification, it gives those firms an incentive to participate, a third source said, declining identification. Additionally, the compliance with the guidelines would give advertisers better information about the practices by adware companies, the source said. Representatives of CA, CNET and TRUSTe were not immediately available for comment. AOL and Yahoo declined comment. A Verizon spokesman confirmed it would participate in the news conference with TRUSTe but declined to provide details. The drafting of the guidelines comes on the heels of a public relations disaster for music company Sony BMG, which faces a U.S. lawsuit charging it with not informing customers before distributing CD copy protection software that installs and hides itself in computers that track a user's habits. Media companies, seeking to court a new audience online and on mobile devices, have experimented with selling programming online and on-demand but are wary their products will be stolen before proper digital rights management protections are established. Asked if some of Sony's CDs containing the aggressive copy protection software would have passed muster under these new guidelines, one source said, "There's no way they'd pass it." The Senate Commerce Committee plans to consider legislation on Thursday aimed at regulating the unauthorized installation of computer software and require better disclosure of software features that may threaten privacy. Copyright 2005 Reuters Limited. NOTE: For more telecom/internet/networking/computer news from the daily media, check out our feature 'Telecom Digest Extra' each day at http://telecom-digest.org/td-extra/more-news.html . Hundreds of new articles daily. [TELECOM Digest Editor's Note: Shouldn't they be required to wait until the new Spam and Crime Discussion and Exploration of the Issues forum has had a chance to discuss it and explore it? PAT] ------------------------------ From: Reuters News Wire <reuters@telecom-digest.org> Subject: Google to Let Web Users Publish Information According to WSJ Date: Wed, 16 Nov 2005 10:59:02 -0600 Google Inc. will launch a service on Wednesday that will let Web users publish information online that others will be able to search, the Wall Street Journal reported. The service, to be called "Google Base," aims to allow people to distribute content such as job listings or recipes online, regardless of whether they have a Web site, the paper said. It is also designed to allow the creators to categorize the postings, which should improve the quality of search results. Last month, Google said it was testing the service, but would not confirm whether the move was part of a broader push into online shopping to compete with the likes of eBay Inc. or Amazon.com Inc. Analysts said then that if Google combined the publishing system with its Froogle shopping service and other offerings, it could compete with local classified advertising on sites such as eBay or Craig's List or online shopping at Amazon.com. Copyright 2005 Reuters Limited. NOTE: For more telecom/internet/networking/computer news from the daily media, check out our feature 'Telecom Digest Extra' each day at http://telecom-digest.org/td-extra/more-news.html . Hundreds of new articles daily. ------------------------------ From: Paul Andrews <pandrews@seattletimes.com> Subject: Publishers Suing Google Date: Wed, 16 Nov 2005 11:01:19 -0600 As a longtime dues-paying member of the Authors Guild, I'm party to a lawsuit against Google over its new book-search service called Google Print. As an author of two books, though, I'm not sure I want to be suing Google. Every writer wants his or her work to be read. But to be read, a work needs to be found. Digital search is fast becoming the de facto way to be found. The problem is that finding something digitally too easily equates to possessing it. Google Print, which you can try out now in test form at print.google.com, aims to do for books what Google has done for the Web. You search on a topic or keyword and you're presented with a list of citations from books whose entire text Google has indexed. So far Google has agreements with a handful of libraries to digitize their books. Here's where things get sticky. The Authors Guild thinks that Google, by indexing books and presenting squibs in searches, violates copyright law. Authors receive no compensation from readers who may find all they want or need in a few excerpts without having to buy the entire book. It's even possible that persistent searchers could assemble entire books by doing repeated searches. So the same demon of piracy plaguing the entertainment business rears its ugly head in the publishing sector. So far, Google has shown interest in making money only from search-linked advertising, not from book content. It argues that indexing books and displaying excerpts are legal procedures akin to quotes in reviews and do not require publishers' permission. That's opened the door for competitors including Yahoo!, Microsoft and Amazon.com to do "responsible" library-search deals that abide by publishers' guidelines. Amazon is planning to introduce a feature in which users pay "a few cents a page" for online access to selected books. Led by the Association of American Publishers, which also is suing Google, many publishers argue that even squibs should cost money. Random House has said it wants 4 cents per excerpt. But just as the "true price" of a downloaded song, TV show or movie is still being debated, reasonable cost (if any) for a book excerpt has yet to be tested. What if pay-for searches discourage readers from even looking? One further complication: What slice of that 4 cents, if any, will be passed from the publisher to the author? One thing the controversy has highlighted is the publishing industry's desperate need to climb aboard the 21st century. "Web users are way out in front of the business model," said Chuck Richard, an analyst at Outsell, which tracks information markets. Readers are migrating to digital in droves, but revenue is mired on the print side, Richard said. It may be that the only thing worse than Google Print would be no Google Print. Without some digital equivalent to the concept of a library, a lot of great writing could be lost to the ages. And no one -- readers, authors, publishers, Google and its competitors -- would benefit from that. Seattle freelance writer Paul Andrews has written about technology for more than two decades. He can be reached at pandrews@seattletimes.com. Copyright 2005 The Seattle Times Company NOTE: For more telecom/internet/networking/computer news from the daily media, check out our feature 'Telecom Digest Extra' each day at http://telecom-digest.org/td-extra/more-news.html . Hundreds of new articles daily. *** FAIR USE NOTICE. This message contains copyrighted material the use of which has not been specifically authorized by the copyright owner. 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For more information go to: http://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/17/107.shtml ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 16 Nov 2005 01:29:44 -0500 From: Monty Solomon <monty@roscom.com> Subject: CD's Recalled for Posing Risk to PC's By TOM ZELLER Jr. The global music giant Sony BMG yesterday announced plans to recall millions of CD's by at least 20 artists -- from the crooners Celine Dion and Neil Diamond to the country-rock act Van Zant -- because they contain copy restriction software that poses risks to the computers of consumers. The move, more commonly associated with collapsing baby strollers, exploding batteries, or cars with faulty brakes, is expected to cost the company tens of millions of dollars. Sony BMG said that all CD's containing the software would be removed from retail outlets and that exchanges would be offered to consumers who had bought any of them. A toll-free number and e-mail message inquiry system will also be set up on the Sony BMG Web site, sonybmg.com. "We deeply regret any inconvenience this may cause our customers," the company said in a letter that it said it would post on its Web site, "and are committed to making this situation right." Neither representatives of Sony BMG nor the British company First 4 Internet, which developed the copy protection software, would comment further. Sony BMG estimated last week that about five million discs -- some 49 different titles -- had been shipped with the problematic software, and about two million had been sold. Market research from 2004 has shown that about 30 percent of consumers report obtaining music through the copying and sharing of tracks among friends from legitimately purchased CD's. But the fallout from the aggressive copy protection effort has raised serious questions about how far companies should be permitted to go in seeking to prevent digital piracy. The recall and exchange program, which was first reported by USA Today, comes two weeks after news began to spread on the Internet that certain Sony BMG CD's contained software designed to limit users to making only three copies. The software also, however, altered the deepest levels of a computer's systems and created vulnerabilities that Internet virus writers could exploit. Since then, computer researchers have identified other problems with the software, as well as with the software patch and uninstaller programs that the company issued to address the vulnerabilities. http://www.nytimes.com/2005/11/16/technology/16sony.html?ex=1289797200&en=c8d164a98ca18537&ei=5090 ------------------------------ Subject: Cellular-News for Wednesday 16th November 2005 Date: Wed, 16 Nov 2005 07:35:36 -0600 From: Cellular-News <dailydigest@cellular-news-mail.com> Cellular-News - http://www.cellular-news.com [[3G News]] Australia's Telstra Won't Build 3G Network In New Zealand http://www.cellular-news.com/story/14830.php Telstra Corp. said Tuesday that it won't build a 3G network in New Zealand. ... Nokia, T-Mobile Successfully Test HSDPA Networks http://www.cellular-news.com/story/14833.php Finnish telecommunications equipment maker Nokia Corp. Tuesday said that together with T-Mobile International it has completed High Speed Downlink Data Packet Access, or HSDPA, calls using Nokia's third-generation network technology. ... Share 3G Videos During Voice Calls http://www.cellular-news.com/story/14843.php Hong Kong's CSL has announced the launch of Asia's first 3G "Video Sharing Service", enabling 1O1O and One2Free customers to share real-time or pre-recorded video clips spontaneously during normal voice calls. With the brand-new Nokia N70, 6680 and N... Cingular Affiliate Orders 3G Kit http://www.cellular-news.com/story/14846.php Nortel has been selected by Edge Wireless to expand its wireless voice and data network in four states across western USA. In addition, Nortel and Edge Wireless will begin UMTS and HSDPA 3G field trials this month. Under the terms of the agreement, N... [[Financial News]] Soros Ups Stake In Motorola http://www.cellular-news.com/story/14831.php Billionaire George Soros' investment fund on Monday reported major increases in holdings of two household tech names. ... Vodafone CEO: No Material Impact From Telefonica O2 Buy http://www.cellular-news.com/story/14832.php Vodafone Group PLC Chief Executive Arun Sarin Tuesday said he doesn't expect Telefonica SA's GBP18 billion takeover of O2 PLC to materially impact his company's performance. ... Vodafone 1st Half Pretax, Pre-Items Profit GBP4.8 Billion Vs GBP4.5 Billion http://www.cellular-news.com/story/14834.php Vodafone Group said Tuesday that interim sales were GBP18.25 billion (2004: GBP16.8 billion). Interim pretax, pre-items profit was GBP4.8 billion (2004: GBP4.5 billion). ... Alcatel, Ericsson Share Spoils In Telstra Upgrade http://www.cellular-news.com/story/14835.php Alcatel Tuesday said it has won a EUR2.2 billion order from Australia's Telstra Corp., the latest in a spate of major network upgrades that are fueling fierce competition among telecommunications equipment makers. ... Vodafone Slumps After Warning On Revenue, Margins http://www.cellular-news.com/story/14838.php PREMIUM - Shares of Vodafone Group PLC fell as much as 10% Tuesday as the mobile operator warned revenue and profit margins would fall next fiscal year, following a 23% decline in first-half net profit. ... Investors Ready Offer For TDC http://www.cellular-news.com/story/14839.php The two of two private equity consortia is preparing a bid for what could be the $12 billion sale of Denmark's TDC in what could be the largest leveraged buyout in European history, according to a media report Tuesday. ... Handset Retailer profit soars in January-September http://www.cellular-news.com/story/14840.php The net profit of Russian mobile handset and services retailer Svyaznoi rose to 19.379 million rubles in January-September from 2.424 million rubles in the same period last year, as calculated under Russian Accounting Standards, or RAS, the company s... [[Handsets News]] Nokia, Grameen Foundation In Mobile Phone Financing Pact http://www.cellular-news.com/story/14836.php Finland's Nokia and U.S. Grameen Foundation said Tuesday they will collaborate to bring affordable, accessible telecommunications to rural villages in Africa through microfinance. ... New Handsets from Sagem http://www.cellular-news.com/story/14848.php Sagem has launched its new ultra-slim my300X product line, being the first step into the globally renewing its product range. In addition to proposing a new design style in the product range, Sagem has also taken the first step to evolving its produc... [[Legal News]] Norway's Telenor starts arbitration against Russia's Alfa units http://www.cellular-news.com/story/14837.php Norway's telecommunications company Telenor has started Monday an arbitration proceeding against affiliates of Russia's Alfa Group, Telenor said in a press release late Monday. ... [[Mobile Content News]] Premium Rate SMS Vendor Secures Canadian Access http://www.cellular-news.com/story/14851.php The UK based premium rate SMS supplier, mBlox says that is launching cross-carrier Premium Short Message Service (PSMS) in Canada. mBlox will empower clients already doing business in the USA to deliver and bill for wireless content and services acro... Get Dilbert on a Mobile http://www.cellular-news.com/story/14852.php Verizon Wireless has inked a deal with FunMail to offer Dilbert cartoons on Verizon handsets. Each day, Daily Dilbert delivers a popular Dilbert comic strip directly to the phones of Verizon Wireless Mobile Web 2.0 customers -- giving Dilbert comic f... [[Network Operators News]] CDMA Coverage Expands in Alaska http://www.cellular-news.com/story/14841.php Alaska Communications Systems (ACS) has announced its recent rapid expansion of its wireless coverage on its CDMA network. ACS' footprint is growing with the intention of covering 80% of Alaska's population with CDMA service by the middle of 2006. In... Digicel Announces Jamaican Subscriber Growth http://www.cellular-news.com/story/14842.php Digicel, the Caribbean based mobile telecommunications provider, says that Digicel's Jamaica operations have reached a milestone of 1.376 million subscribers. Digicel Jamaica gained 24,000 new subscribers in the month of October 2005 alone as the com... [[Personnel News]] Staff Changes At Sony Ericsson http://www.cellular-news.com/story/14849.php Sony Ericsson has announced the appointment of Ulf Lilja from Ericsson's Group CFO office as the company's new Chief Financial Officer, and Shoji Nemoto, President of Sony's Digital Imaging Business Group, as its new Head of Product Business Unit GSM... [[Statistics News]] Investcom Passes 4 Million Subscriber Mark http://www.cellular-news.com/story/14844.php Investcom (formerly Investcom Holding) which has operations in Africa, the Middle East and Europe, has announced it has exceeded four million subscribers. The company owns and operates mobile services, mostly under the Areeba brand, in eight markets ... More Consumers Want Wireless as Bundle Option http://www.cellular-news.com/story/14845.php Landline telecom carriers apparently are not providing wireless in their service bundles as frequently as customers would like, reports In-Stat. According to an In-Stat consumer survey, only 18% of current bundle subscribers have wireless, even thoug... [[Technology News]] Short Messaging Style Services Deployed in Kenya http://www.cellular-news.com/story/14847.php Redknee say that it recently won a contract from Kenya's Safaricom. This new contract enables Safaricom's ten million subscribers to take advantage of the USSD service portfolio with an initial deployment of the Call Me service and a USSD Portal in t... Canadian WiFi Roaming Supplier Selected http://www.cellular-news.com/story/14850.php Syniverse Technologies has been awarded a multi-year, multi-carrier contract to provide Mobile Data Roaming Services for the three Canadian carriers: Bell Mobility, Rogers Wireless and TELUS Mobility. These carriers recently announced an intercarrier... ------------------------------ Subject: My New Cell Phone, Nokia 6010 Date: Tue, 15 Nov 2005 23:55:28 EST From: ptownson@massis.lcs.mit.edu (TELECOM Digest Editor) The Cingular Wireless people here in town finally convinced me to swap out my old digital cell phone (also Nokia) for a new GSM/GPRS phone. I had said I would keep on using my old phone as long as service was available for it, but lately it was getting harder and harder to get a good, clear signal with no need for constant redial attempts, etc. The new plan they put me on is even a bit cheaper than what I had. And this new phone has a provision to use 'mobile internet' from the phone itself. I got to keep the number I had on the old phone, same voicemail, etc. The new phone is a bit smaller, and not even a trace of an antenna on it anywhere; not even a little stub. It does sound a wee bit 'tinny' however Cingular has me on 'no long distance charges' and 'no roaming' and 'rollover'. Since my landline (Prairie Stream) phone is set to 'transfer on busy/no answer (after 3 rings) it seems to be ideal for my needs. It still is not clear to me _why_ they feel it is a beter system than the phone I was using but they insist it is. As with all these things, there is absolutely no standardization between peripherals on old and new phones. My old cell socket, power chargers, headsets, other handsfree devices do not fit and cannot be used. The local manager here for Southwest Wireless, the Cingular Wireless Agency here in town told me "one way the cell companies make money is by assuring that no two phones ever use the same attachments." It figures. PAT ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 16 Nov 2005 13:25:20 EST From: USTelecom dailyLead <ustelecom@dailylead.com> Subject: UTStarcom Wins China Telecom IPTV Contract USTelecom dailyLead November 16, 2005 http://r.smartbrief.com/resp/ydhUatagCxsvipCIwQ TODAY'S HEADLINES NEWS OF THE DAY * UTStarcom wins China Telecom IPTV contract BUSINESS & INDUSTRY WATCH * Telefonica inks Huawei deal, ups stake in China Netcom * U.S. consumers pay more for less in broadband * Motorola, Cingular plan revamped ROKR * Skype seeks solution to SkypeOut problem in China USTELECOM SPOTLIGHT * Drivers for Fixed Mobile Convergence and IMS TECHNOLOGY TRENDS * Pioneering developers build their own phones * Sprint Nextel COO discusses wireless broadband plans REGULATORY & LEGISLATIVE * Milwaukee council approves Wi-Fi plans * Court backs VoIP 911 deadline Follow the link below to read quick summaries of these stories and others. http://r.smartbrief.com/resp/ydhUatagCxsvipCIwQ ------------------------------ From: jmeissen@aracnet.com Subject: Re: Comcast, Verizon Wage Licensing War/Towns Caught in Crossfire Date: 16 Nov 2005 05:19:40 GMT Organization: http://extra.newsguy.com In article <telecom24.521.6@telecom-digest.org>, Kinon O'cann <Yes.it's.me.Bowser@giganews.com> wrote: > Comcast's best friend in this is Verizon. I had scheduled a move to > FOIS, but cancelled when I learned that Verizon blocks many incoming > ports, and although I can re-direct web and FTP traffic to other > ports, that's a game I'd rather not play. Verizon can also block other > ports, once they detect activity they don't like. I cancelled. I don't > understand this behavior by Verizon at all. The relationship betwenn > the customer and Verizon should be deadly simple: I pay for a > connection, and then use it however I want (like I do now). Verizon > limits speeds up and down, and that's their way of controlling network > saturation. Then I learned they don't allow servers, either. What a > joke. I pay for a connection, and they determine how I use it? No > chance. Wake up, Verizon! While Comcast may not block ports (yet), their terms-of-service do forbid the operation of servers. Though luckily for many people I know, they don't seem to enforce it. It is possible to get an unrestricted FIOS connection. You simply have to step up to the business package for $99/mo. On the plus side, that also gives you 5 fixed IP addresses. Yeah, I think that sucks, too. I'm expecting to not have much choice in the matter. The Feds have given the phone companies the right to pull the plug on independent ISP's in a year, which would force all of us to either Comcast or the phone company's offering. John Meissen jmeissen@aracnet.com ------------------------------ From: Steven Lichter <shlichter@diespammers.com> Reply-To: Die@spammers.com Organization: I Kill Spammers, Inc. (c) 2005 A Rot in Hell Co. Subject: Re: Comcast, Verizon Wage Licensing War/Towns Caught in Crossfire Date: Wed, 16 Nov 2005 06:07:53 GMT Kinon O'cann wrote: > Comcast's best friend in this is Verizon. I had scheduled a move to > FOIS, but cancelled when I learned that Verizon blocks many incoming > ports, and although I can re-direct web and FTP traffic to other > ports, that's a game I'd rather not play. Verizon can also block other > ports, once they detect activity they don't like. I cancelled. I don't > understand this behavior by Verizon at all. The relationship betwenn > the customer and Verizon should be deadly simple: I pay for a > connection, and then use it however I want (like I do now). Verizon > limits speeds up and down, and that's their way of controlling network > saturation. Then I learned they don't allow servers, either. What a > joke. I pay for a connection, and they determine how I use it? No > chance. Wake up, Verizon! > FWIW, I only want to use web and FTP services to share digital pics > with my family, and it's way more convenient than trying to constantly > e-mail huge files. Don't allow servers, that new. I have seen them supply rounters and the such to their customers. As to blocking ports all IP's do that when there are problems. The only good spammer is a dead one!! Have you hunted one down today? (c) 2005 I Kill Spammers, Inc. A Rot in Hell Co. ------------------------------ From: harold@hallikainen.com <harold@hallikainen.com> Subject: Re: Comcast, Verizon Wage Licensing War/Towns Caught in Crossfire Date: 16 Nov 2005 07:55:13 -0800 Organization: http://groups.google.com I agree that communications carriers should be content neutral. If they are concerned about bandwidth usage, then meter the bandwidth! Some telco or cable modem guy (maybe SBC) said something like they should be charging Google for using their wires. He left out the fact that WE are paying for the use of the wires, and it should be up to the customer as to what they want to say over those wires. Unless network neutrality laws appear, I think that broadband providers will be able to offer lower prices to consumers by offering only their content (with advertising revenue) and their communications services (paid VoIP instead of open standards VoIP). The consumer will go with it for the initially low price, then be stuck. Harold ------------------------------ From: Clark W. Griswold, Jr. <spamtrap100@comcast.net> Subject: Re: USA Wants Wiretap on Internet Calls Expanded Date: Tue, 15 Nov 2005 22:31:54 -0700 Organization: Posted via Supernews, http://www.supernews.com Jeremy Pelofsky <reuters@telecom-digest.org> wrote: > The U.S. Justice Department urged communications regulators to require > Internet phone companies to provide the ability to conduct > surveillance on services that offer only outgoing calls or incoming > calls to or from the traditional phone network. You know, this is just getting out of control. Our friends at DOJ seem to be trying to make hay while the sun is shining, or at least trying to push as far as they can in the current environment. The bad guys aren't stupid and neither are the VOIP providers. All they need to do is move offshore and they're exempt from dubious extentions of CALEA. [TELECOM Digest Editor's Note: Except, I have heard it said, that even if _some portion_ of your communication crosses the border into the United States, then the USA government claims to be in control. Or even if they are _not_ permitted to wiretap the offshore end of the conversation, they can wiretap the domestic portion and accomplish the same thing. PAT] ------------------------------ From: Tom Betz <spammers_lie@pobox.com> Subject: Re: Imagine All Your Information in One Convenient Place Date: Wed, 16 Nov 2005 12:22:58 UTC Organization: Some Quoth info@mijavanetwork.com in news:telecom24.520.9@telecom- digest.org: > > ... all in one place. > http://www.all.com Sounds like a data miner's wet dream. | "There's no telling what new harm Bush might | | do if he ever gets back up off the mat. | | You have to keep your knee on his windpipe | | until the danger is past." -- Garry Trudeau | [TELECOM Digest Editor's Note: And it also sounds like an honest netizen's nightmare. 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[I can remember the time a guy from FBI out of Wichita said to me in a self-righteous tone of voice, "oh, spammers do not send kiddie porn around"] By joining our [sick] site, you'll no longer have to search for other cp sites on the net. You will find MORE ABSOLUTELY FRESH content If you was our [sick] member. We care about our [sick] members. Often updates. Friendly support. All in ONE [sick] site! If you want to receive a private link to our site - just reply to this message with your login name or send your request (with login name) to this [sick] email: san_t_tran@yahoo.com [TELECOM Digest Editor's Note: You bet we will! We all want to have our names and email addresses added to the Postal Disservice mailing list for FBI prosecution. Oh, by the way, Mr. Zipp, how have things been going there, with all the hurricanes and stuff this past summer. Is it true Katrina or Wilma blew away your factory building and you had to construct a new place. 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