TELECOM Digest     Wed, 26 Oct 2005 22:55:00 EDT    Volume 24 : Issue 488

Inside This Issue:                             Editor: Patrick A. Townson

    Kaboodle Makes Sharing Book Marks Easier (Eric Auchard)
    Microsoft to Start Online Book Searches (Allison Linn)
    Google Gives Peek at Classified Ad Service (Michael Liedtke)
    Bell System / Western Electric Apparatus Help Needed (Michael Muderick)    
    Panasonic 96 Port / Isoetic Questions (Michael Muderick) 
    Do We go Overboard for Halloween? (hancock4@bbs.cpcn.com)
    TDC Buyout Maneuvering Heats Up (USTelecom dailyLead)
    Re: More on San Francisco and Oakland Numbering (Joseph)
    Re: Remote Call Forwarding Question (Mark Roberts)
    Alger Hiss [was: Re: Privacy Worries? Don't Print in Color] (Mark Crispin)

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From: Eric Auchard <reuters@telecom-digest.org>
Subject: Kaboodle Makes Sharing Web Bookmarks Easier
Date: Wed, 26 Oct 2005 13:01:25 -0500


By Eric Auchard

Web page bookmarks that help surfers return to useful Internet sites
are undergoing a transformation as new tools emerge for users to
categorize and share favorite sites automatically with others.

For, while Web surfing remains the essential gesture of our age,
jumping from site to site is a broken way of keeping track of
information.

On Wednesday, Silicon Valley start-up Kaboodle Inc. will offer a novel
way for Web surfers facing information overload to keep a running
record of useful sites and extract key details for personal use or to
share with like-minded users.

Kaboodle (http://www.kaboodle.com/) -- short for "whole kit and
caboodle," a collection of lots of objects -- allows users to create
Web pages to manage personal research, do comparison shopping, make
wish lists or plan travel.

"The process is pretty clunky of trying to look at a whole bunch of
information by going from site to site," said Manish Chandra,
Kaboodle's founder and CEO. "Each Kaboodle page represents a custom
search result you have created," he said.

Kaboodle joins a host of rivals in an area known variously as
collaborative search, social tagging or social bookmarking, where
people point out interesting sites and help put the information found
on them into meaningful categories.

The shared search craze recently reached a pinnacle on Del.icio.us
http://del.icio.us/ , a site that has struck a chord with users keen
to know where others are surfing on the Web. Other examples include
diversified Internet companies such as Yahoo, with its MyWeb service,
MyJeeves from IAC's AskJeeves and newer players such as Wink and
JetEye.

"There are so many alternatives, my head is spinning," Forrester
analyst Charlene Li said. "Kaboodle works by offering really simple
social bookmarks."

Every time a user clicks to save a Web page, Kaboodle software studies
the page to extract a headline, short summary, and the body of text or
images -- and creates a summary page.

These summary pages can then become links for each personal reference
or be shared with other users. The page can also be annotated by the
user or other readers to add additional information. They can also be
rated for usefulness. The user controls which summary pages become
public or stay private.

Kaboodle can work entirely as a personal tool. The social aspect of sharing
searches with others is just a side benefit.

The company employs 12 people and has attracted $1.5 million in
investment.  It was only incorporated in January, but the technology
underpinning it was developed over the prior year, said Keiron
McMammon, co-founder and chief architect.

"The technology learns in the background," McMammon said. "The system
continues to get smarter and smarter over time."

He said the Web information extraction technology is based on
theoretical work by Rajeev Motwani and Ashish Gupta.

Motwani is a Stanford University professor and co-author of the
academic paper on Web search "pagerank" technology first published by
Google co-founders Larry Page and Sergey Brin in 1998. Gupta
co-founded Junglee, a data-integration software company that was
acquired by Amazon.com, also in 1998. Both are investors in Kaboodle,
Chandra said.


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From: Allison Linn <ap@telecom-digest.org> 
Subject: Microsoft to Start Online Book Searches
Date: Wed, 26 Oct 2005 13:02:49 -0500


By ALLISON LINN, AP Business Writer

Microsoft Corp. is diving into the business of offering online
searches of books and other writings, and says its approach aims to
avoid the legal tussles met by rival Google Inc.

The Redmond-based software giant said Tuesday that it will sidestep
hot-button copyright issues for now by initially focusing mainly on
books, academic materials and other publications that are in the
public domain.

Microsoft plans to initially work with an industry organization called
the Open Content Alliance to let users search about 150,000 pieces of
published material. A test version of the product is promised for next
year.

The alliance, whose participants also include top Internet portal
Yahoo Inc. , is working to make books and other offline content
available online without raising the ire of publishers and authors.

Danielle Tiedt, a general manager of search content acquisition with
Microsoft's MSN online unit, said the company also is working with
publishers and libraries on ways to eventually make more copyright
material available for online searches.

She said Microsoft is looking at several options, including models
where users would be charged to access the content.

Microsoft said it has no plans right now to have targeted ads located
in the search results, but the company cautioned that it was still
working out the details of its business model.

"I think about the 150,000 books as a test," Tiedt said.

Rival Google has taken a markedly different approach, with plans to
index millions of copyright books from three major university
libraries -- Harvard, Stanford and Michigan -- unless the copyright
holder notifies the company which volumes should be excluded.

The Association of American Publishers, representing five publishers,
and The Authors Guild, which includes about 8,000 writers, have both
sued the search engine giant over the plans.

Google has defended the effort as necessary to its goal of helping
people find information -- and insists that its scanning effort is
protected under fair use law because of restrictions placed on how
much of any single book could be read.

Responding to Microsoft's plans to offer its own book search, Google
said in a statement that it "welcomes efforts to make information
accessible to the world."

Tiedt said Microsoft is coming at book search from a different angle
in part because the software maker itself is so often the target of
copyright infringement. Pirated versions of Microsoft's Windows
operating system are widely available in developing countries for only
a few dollars.

Microsoft's approach has the potential to backfire, however, if Google
ends up having more content available or begins offering ways to
search content for free while Microsoft pursues a model that requires
people to pay for it.

Microsoft acknowledges it is far behind Google.

Tiedt said she expects it will take years -- and require a substantial
investment -- to solidify the MSN product, working out all the complex
issues around searching through books and other materials online.

"This is not a money-maker for the company," Tiedt said. "This is very
much a strategic bet for search overall."

The effort marks Microsoft's latest effort to play catch-up with
Google on various search technologies ranging from basic Internet
search to localized queries

But Google remains by the search leader by far, accounting for 45.1
percent of all U.S. Internet searches in September, according to
Nielsen/Net Ratings. Microsoft's MSN Search ranked third, accounting
for 11.7 percent of U.S. searches during the same period.

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From: Michael Liedtke <ap@telecom-digest.org> 
Subject: Google Gives Peek at Classified Ad Service
Date: Wed, 26 Oct 2005 13:04:29 -0500


By MICHAEL LIEDTKE, AP Business Writer

Google Inc. has unintentionally provided a sneak peek at what appears
to be a looming expansion into classified advertising -- a free service
that might antagonize some of the Internet search engine's biggest
customers, including online auctioneer eBay Inc.

Screen shots of the experimental service, dubbed "Google Base,"
appeared on several Web sites Tuesday shortly after the legions of
people who dissect the online search engine leader's every move
discovered a link to a page inviting people to list things like a used
car for sale, a party planning service and current events.

Google confirmed the development of the service a few hours after
taking down the link.

"We are testing new ways for content owners to easily send their
content to Google," the Mountain View, Calif.-based company said in a
statement. "We're continually exploring new opportunities to expand
our offerings, but we don't have anything to announce at this time."

By offering a forum that would enable people to sell goods and
services without paying for the advertising, Google might hurt eBay --
a major buyer of the online ads that account for most of Google's
profits.

EBay depends on the fees that it receives for helping to sell all
kinds of products and services, including items that might be listed
for free on Google Base. The San Jose, Calif.-based company also owns
a 25 percent stake in Craigslist, a popular site that offers free
classified ads in more than 100 cities.

Google also has confirmed it's working on an online payment service,
but CEO Eric Schmidt has said the service won't compete with
eBay-owned PayPal.

Another free online classified ad service also would pose another
financial threat to newspapers, which already have been squeezed in
the cities where Craigslist provides free listings.

If a free Google listing service materializes, it could change the way
many Web sites view the online search engine leader.

Through most of its seven-year existence, Google has depicted itself
as a vehicle for delivering people to other destinations that
contained a desired piece of information or product.

But during the past 18 months, Google has increasingly been adding
more content and services that are turning its Web site into more of
portal -- a sort of one-stop shop for information and commerce.

"As soon as you start competing with some of the people that you are
indexing, it creates a completely different dynamic," said Craig
Donato, chief executive of Oodle.com, a search engine that pools
listings from dozens of classified advertising sites.

"Google can get away with a lot of stuff, but (Google Base) would
certainly give people pause," he said.

Google's diversification has coincided with tougher competition from
Yahoo Inc. and Microsoft Corp.'s MSN -- two longtime portals that have
been trying to build better search engines.


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Date: Wed, 26 Oct 2005 22:04:18 -0400
From: Michael Muderick <michael.muderick@verizon.net>
Subject: BELL SYSTEM/Western Electric Apparatus Help?


I have a couple of Western Electric/Bell System/ATT apparatus
units. 30AM.  One has an RN1J82 number.  I think they are part of
paging adapters; one is labeled EMERGENCY AUDIO.  I'd be happy to
email a picture if someone can help me identify what they are, and
perhaps send me a BSP.  I have a bunch of BSP manuals, but don't have
a number and haven't been able to find it.  Can anyone assist?

Michael@muderick.com

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Date: Wed, 26 Oct 2005 22:15:42 -0400
From: Michael Muderick <michael.muderick@verizon.net>
Subject: Panasonic 96 Port Question?  Isoetic Question? Anyone Interested?


I just picked up 2 used systems taken out of service and have some
questions -- maybe someone can help.

PanasonicVB43060 96 port system with following cards:
2-L-TRK
4-D-EC
3-A-KC
1-MFR
1-CBL(S)

There is one board (it has PB1190AJ on the rear) across the top on the
left but no board on the right, although there is a slot for one.  Is
there a board missing, or is that an option slot?

ISOETIC
EZ-1/18 WITH EXPANSION ASSEMBLY
3-80500 phones
2-80100 phones
3-Gray 83500 phones
1-80700 phone

Looking to liquidate -- Can anyone suggest who might be interested in this
equipment?

Thanks in advance.

michael@muderick.com

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From: hancock4@bbs.cpcn.com
Subject: Do We Go Overboard for Halloween?
Date: 26 Oct 2005 12:02:33 -0700
Organization: http://groups.google.com


A society communications question:

I've noticed that Halloween seems to have grown substantially in
importance as a holiday.  Years ago it was one night -- -kids went
around and collected candy, maybe a few adults had a costume party.

But in more recent years it seems to rival Christmas as a major
holiday.  TV networks produce multiple Halloween-themed shows, run
horror movies throughout the month.  There are many elaborate parties
for adults and kids.  Costumes and events (public haunted houses) have
grown very elaborate.

It seems society has gone way overboard on this, particularly the
entertainment media.

There are a few subgroups in society that make a very big deal about
Halloween, but I really doubt they can influence the rest of us so
much.

Thoughts?

[public replies please]



[TELECOM Digest Editor's Note: I suspect Lisa is correct. Here in
Independence, our annual Neewollah Festival has grown from a single
day in the 1920's ('Neewollah' is Halloween spelled backward) when it
was observed on October 31 as a way to keep children out of mischief
by organizing events for them, to today, an Octoberfest thing which
goes on the last *two weeks* of October; this year from October 19
through October 29 (or early morning on October 30, I guess), and
there is more mischief all this week around town (mostly much drinking
and rowdy behavior) than the kids or anyone else would have thought
possible in the 1920-30's era. To see what all the excitement is
about, check out http://www.neewollah.com . With tons of quite
_overpriced_ food from a variety of street vendors, parades,
carnivals, a large and extravagent costume party affair at
Independence Country Club on Saturday night for the more formal crowd
and plenty of liquid refreshment at every tavern in town for the less
formal participants, this is the week which is sometimes known as 
'the Mardis Gras' of southeast Kansas. Police have already geared
up for the overflow crowds here all this week. The 8000-citizen popu-
lation of our town about triples or quadruples during Neewollah. 

My cats get so nervous and uptight all this week with the mobs of
people roaming aound past my house; I seldom let the cats go outside
at night anyway, and never during Neewollah. They are likely get scared
and run off. Yes Lisa, I would definitly say too much is made of
'Devils Night' each year. At least we do not have trouble like Detroit
has most years, with buildings set on fire, etc. On Halloween itself,
I will sit inside in the dark with my shades drawn and not answer the
door at all.  PAT]

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Date: Wed, 26 Oct 2005 13:21:33 EDT
From: USTelecom dailyLead <ustelecom@dailylead.com>
Subject: TDC Buyout Maneuvering Heats Up


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From: Joseph <JoeOfSeattle@yahoo.com>
Subject: Re: More on San Francisco and Oakland Numbering
Date: Wed, 26 Oct 2005 12:24:06 -0700
Reply-To: JoeOfSeattle@yahoo.com


On Mon, 24 Oct 2005 20:17:16 EDT, Wesrock@aol.com wrote:

> I lived in a small place that had terminal-per-line SxS.  Terminal per
> line means that the line is designated by a number; an additional
> number is required to desginate the party and the number is listed in
> the directory that way without any hyphens or other distinctions.

I lived for a time in Whitefield, Maine which was served by the North
Whitefield CO (207-FIieldstone 7 later 207-549 when EAS to Augusta,
Maine was added.)  The original machine that was installed was a #356
SXS machine.  The difference between a #356 SXS and a #355 is that a
#356 SXS machine was installed as TPL i.e. terminal per line so
FIeldstone 7-2391 to 2390 were individual lines with the tip and ring
side of the line had five possible ringing cadences with the
possibility that if it was required you could have 10-party service.
Each person on the line by their directory number you would know what
their ringing cadence was.  This provided a real problem if there was
a disconnection on the line for providing any sort of intercept.  IIRC
there was only one "specialized" intercept machine that had to be used
if a line was disconnected or changed for any reason.

The #355 SXS machine on the other hand was a terminal per station
machine so a party (if you had a party line) could be anywhere in any
bank of numbers in that CO.  Later the CO was rebuilt and new
selectors/connectors were added adding terminal per station capability
and all parties in that CO were changed to new numbers.  This
facilitated easier switching of people from 8 party service to two
party and private lines.  Eventually of course the SXS machine
(installed ~1952) to be replaced with some sort of digital machine
(I'm guessing either a 5E or DMS.)


[TELECOM Digest Editor's Note: A friend of mine who lived in
Lafayette, Indiana in the 1950-60's had no working phone service (the
line had been cut off) but he said he was still able to recieve calls
even if not make them. If you called his number, the phone would ring
once, you picked up the receiver, listened through the 'not in service'
intercept message, then went ahead and talked to the caller anyway.  PAT]

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From: markrobt@myrealbox.com (Mark Roberts)
Subject: Re: Remote Call Forwarding Question
Date: Wed, 26 Oct 2005 21:20:15 -0000
Organization: 1.94 meters


Wesrock@aol.com <Wesrock@aol.com> had written:

> Foreign exchange service existed long before World War II, and
> probably decades before that.  Also long before the inception of 800
> numbers.

>  Remote Call Forwarding makes it less expensive, particularly with
>  the way toll rates have been falling, but it's hardly new.

I think there is a key difference between FX service and Remote Call
Forwarding, which is that FX service is a two-way service while remote
call-forwarding was for incoming calls only.

My first job was at a radio station in Warrenton, Mo. We also had FX
lines for O'Fallon and Troy. Not only could our O'Fallon (plus
St. Peters) and Troy (plus Moscow Mills) listeners call us with a
local seven-digit call, we could call those communities by just
picking up those lines and dialing the local number.  The lines were
on different buttons on our standard Continental (ITT) multi-line
phones. Just looking at the KWRE web site, it appears that the
O'Fallon FX line has been replaced by a Foristell FX line (which makes
much more sense) but the Troy FX line is still in place. The numbers
have changed due to requirements of Missouri's Metropolitan Calling
Area plans, and there is also an 800 toll-free number, but looks like
the FX numbers are still there!


Mark Roberts | "A man does not show his greatness by being at one extremity, 
Oakland, Cal.| but rather by touching both at once."
NO HTML MAIL |               -- Blaise Pascal
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From: Mark Crispin <MRC@CAC.Washington.EDU>
Subject: Alger Hiss [was: Re: Privacy Worries? Don't Print in color]
Date:  Wed, 26 Oct 2005 14:33:35 -0700
Organization:  Networks & Distributed Computing


On Wed, 26 Oct 2005, hancock4@bbs.cpcn.com wrote:

> Today, general agreement is that Hiss was indeed guilty of perjury.

It's more than "general agreement"; it's been conclusively proven.

Hiss was a dues-paying member of the Communist Party, and worked with
the GRU (Soviet military intelligence, now Russian military
intelligence) from 1935.  This has been corroborated in recent years
with releases from Soviet archives and formerly classified US
documents.

The entire reason that there ever was a debate about Hiss' guilt was
that most of the evidence against him was classified until the 1990s.
Belief in the innocence of Hiss and the Rosenbergs were enduring
liberal myths from the early Cold War years; but mainstream liberals
now admit that on this point they were wrong.

Conservatives have their own bitter pill to swallow.  The excesses of
Senator McCarthy were a blessing in disguise to the very real
Communist conspiracy.  In my opinion, McCarthy caused much greater
harm to the US than Hiss ever did.  Time has washed away the effects
of Hiss's treason; we're still suffering from the damage caused by
McCarthy.

-- Mark --

http://staff.washington.edu/mrc
Science does not emerge from voting, party politics, or public debate.
Si vis pacem, para bellum.


[TELECOM Digest Editor's Note: Senator McCarthy ... now there was a
real class act. This Republican Senator from Wisconsin had his very
own television show; in 1949-50 the United States Senate televised the
'McCarthy Committee Hearings' direct from Old Joe's office. Joe
McCarthy seemed to have a running battle with three groups of people:
the Communists, the US Army, and the gay community. Joe was convinced
that 'the government is full of homosexuals working for it.' And most,
if not all the gay people were also Communists, don't you know ... and
McCarthy went on that tangent for several months, all day long, on
television.  He was forever pulling scraps of paper out of his desk at
the hearings, and he would claim, "I have here a list of known
homosexuals and communist sympathizers working for the US Government."
No one ever got to see the list of same he would pull out of his desk
drawer, but he would subpoena these alleged gay guys to give testimony
before his congressional committee day after day, and question them
under oath if they were (or knew of any) 'communists' or 'homosexuals'
working for the government. All those poor guys were so frightened and
scared as McCarthy would grill them over and over. Most produced at
least a few names of fellow employees or friends. Oddly, or maybe not
so odd, those who confessed or told on their buddies never lost their
jobs; only the ones who 'took the Fifth Amendment' and would neither
admit the allegations nor snitch on their buddies got McCarthy furious
enough to demand they resign their employment.

All the TV stations (we only had four in Chicago at the time) carried
his hearings live in their entirety each day, usually from about 9 AM
until mid-afternoon most days, with breaks for his (and the other
Congress critter's) lunch each day and any Quorum Calls which happened
to arise when they were expected to go to the Chamber and vote on
something or another. When they broke for their lunch each weekday,
Channel 9 WGN-TV would put on 30 or 45 minutes of Bozo Circus or some
old movie until it was time to restart the committee hearings in the
afternoon.

I think that nonsense went on for three or four months. Nothing on TV
all day except for Joe McCarthy and his stupid congressional
hearings. We could always count on Joe adjourning the hearing each day
about 3:30 PM central time (4:30 eastern) when he would always keep
looking at his watch and figiting in his seat. You see, part of Joe
McCarthy's 'research' into the 'problem' of gay guys working for the
government was go cruise all the gay bars once they opened each day;
he and his good friend J. Edgar Hoover and Hoover's lifetime
companion, Clyde Whats-His-Name (Tolson I think?)  . All three as
closety as could be, all with their little lists hidden in their desk
drawers of all the 'known homosexuals and communists' in the
government. And the hearings would resume the next morning on national
television.  Thanks for reminding me of that creep, Mark.  PAT]

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