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TELECOM Digest     Thu, 8 Sep 2005 02:00:00 EDT    Volume 24 : Issue 409

Inside This Issue:                            Editor: Patrick A. Townson

    GEICO, Google Settle Lawsuit (Eric Auchard)
    Cell Phones Combined With VOIP (Ben Charny)
    Pre-teen Cell Phone Adoption (Marcus Didius Falco)
    Laptops Turn on, Tune In to Seattle Metro's New Wi-Fi (John Stahl)
    CAS Tone Detection Method (jia)
    Windows DRM Consultant Needed For 12+ Month Position Atlanta (Bob)
    Re: Bob Denver as Maynard (Gordon S. Hlavenka)
    Re: You Can't Foil These Parking Meters (Gordon S. Hlavenka)
    Re: Sid Ceasar and Phones in Comedy (Al Gillis)

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From: Eric Auchard  <reuters@telecom-digest.org>
Subject: GEICO, Google Settle Lawsuit
Date: Wed, 7 Sep 2005 23:56:43 -0500


By Eric Auchard

Google Inc. and auto insurer GEICO have resolved a trademark
infringement challenge filed by GEICO against Google over its online
advertising practices, the auto insurer said on Wednesday.

GEICO, the No. 4 U.S. auto insurer and a unit of investor Warren
Buffet's Berkshire Hathaway Inc., said a suit filed in the
U.S. District Court for the Eastern District of Virginia was "resolved
to the mutual satisfaction of the parties."

The lawsuit, originally filed in May 2004, had sought to hold Google
responsible for trademark infringement for displaying advertising paid
for by rival insurers when computer users searched for the word
"GEICO" on the Google system.

The complaint could have effectively derailed a basic way Google sells
online advertising, by linking keyword searches to ads. This is the
source of virtually all of Google's revenues. Rival Yahoo Inc.
relies on a similar keyword technique for roughly
half of its advertising revenue.

"Terms of the settlement, although not disclosed, would suggest some
sort of payment was made, but that a trial has been avoided," Martin
Pyykkonen, an analyst with brokerage Hoefer & Arnett. "This mitigates
the risk of further trademark lawsuits," he said.

He rates Google stock a "buy" and says it can hit $350 over time, a
gain of 20 percent from current levels.

Late last year, a U.S. judge ruled there was insufficient evidence to
bar Google from using the technique.

Terms of the settlement are confidential, GEICO said. No further
comment on the settlement will be provided, it said. Google spokesman
Mike Mayzel confirmed the two companies had resolved the dispute, but
also decline to provide details.

The resolution of the dispute puts off, at least for now, the threat
of a major battle pitting the intellectual property rights of a
trademark like GEICO against the free speech rights of Google to
create new forms of advertising, Pyykkonen said.

GEICO, or Government Employees Insurance Co., is the fourth-largest
private passenger auto insurer in the United States, covering more
than 6 million policyholders.

Google users who search for the word "GEICO" on the main search
results page are returned a set of results that include sponsored
links alongside the main Web search results. Three lesser rivals are
featured next to a link to GEICO currently.

Google shares were up 35 cents in after-hours trading at $288.80
following the GEICO announcement. The stock had closed $2.20 higher in
regular session trading on Nasdaq at $288.45. Berkshire Hathaway
shares were unchanged in after-hours trading from their New York Stock
Exchange close at $84,100.

Copyright 2005 Reuters Limited.

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From: Ben Charny <zdnet@telecom-digest.org> 
Subject: Cell Phones Combined With VOIP
Date: Wed, 7 Sep 2005 23:58:58 -0500


By Ben Charny
URL: http://news.zdnet.com/2100-1035_22-5759701.html=20

Jayson Jepson pays 29 cents a minute to call London on his cell
phone. Wouldn't it be great, the founder of Mint Telecom asks
rhetorically, if it were more like 2 cents a minute?

Now it is, courtesy of Mint and a growing corporate coterie selling
cell phone versions of voice over Internet Protocol (VoIP) software,
which is used to transform Internet connections into inexpensive home
or office phone lines.

Mint began offering a $7-a-month cell phone service two weeks ago.
Skype, Vonage, IP Drum and other operators using VoIP software have
caused tectonic shifts in the traditional phone-service industry. Now
these same interests are dialing into cell phones, primarily because a
growing number have high-speed Internet connections rivaling the
performance of broadband operators, whether it's over a
third-generation cell phone network or based on Wi-Fi wireless
connectivity.

A speedy connection is very important to VoIP, in which calls travel
on the Internet just like e-mails and instant messages. Because VoIP
is intended for voice communication, it is relatively unforgiving of
Internet connections afflicted by sluggishness or clipped or dropped
signals.

Consumers, of course, must weigh the cost of VoIP cell phone access
against the savings they might derive from standard VoIP. Cell phone
subscribers, after all, already pay a monthly fee for cell phone
service. So why would they pay a company like Mint $7 a month extra,
plus a per-minute fee, to make a call on the same phone?

Jepson argues that the savings for customers using VoIP services are
significant enough to make it worthwhile to buy cell phone access over
VoIP. "You could ask the same question for VoIP in general," he wrote
in an e-mail to CNET News.com. "It's $24.95 for an unlimited calling
plus $20 to $40 a month for broadband just to save a few cents?"

Most cell phone VoIP software comes from start-ups such as IP Drum,
which is based in Norway. It's a product that enables cell phones to
use Skype, arguably the world's most popular Internet telephony
provider.

But VoIP giants Skype and Edison, N.J.-based Vonage say they also have
ambitions to develop software for cell phone access.

"It's an area we're committed to," said Skype spokeswoman Kelly
Larabee.

On Monday, Santa Barbara, Calif.-based CallWave will reveal a new
wrinkle in its lineup of VoIP-related cell phone services, including a
unique call screening feature.

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Date: Thu, 08 Sep 2005 00:02:39 -0400
From: Marcus Didius Falco <falco_marcus_didius@yahoo.co.uk>
Subject: Pre-Teen Cell Phone Adoption


http://news.yahoo.com/s/usatoday/20050906/tc_usatoday/cellphonemarketerscallingallpreteens

Cell phone marketers calling all preteens

By Laura Petrecca, USA TODAY
Tue Sep 6, 8:59 AM ET

Forget the Barbie Dream House. Today's 9-year-old wants her own cell
phone -- and Mattel will be happy to provide one.

The toymaker is one of many companies vying to connect with the
preteen and younger market through mobile phones, services and
accessories. The goal is not just to tap new revenue - it's also to
establish brand loyalty early.

Some parents welcome the appearance of kid-friendly cell phones, while
some critics worry that easy-to-influence preteens will be exposed to
a barrage of marketing messages.

About 16 million teens and younger kids have cell phones, with the
bulk of them older teens, according to the researcher GFK's NOP World
Technology.  But as the teen market gets saturated, cell providers and
other companies are eyeing the younger set.

In February 2002, 13% of 12-to-14-year-olds had cell phones. That
number jumped to 40% in December 2004, according to NOP. Some 14% of
10-to-11-year-olds now own cell phones. While NOP doesn't have
comparison data for that group yet, Vice President Ben Rogers says its
ownership is rising.

Even kids under 10 are using personal cells to call for rides
home. "We're seeing cell phone growth from ages 8 and 9 on," says
technology analyst Rob Enderle.

Mattel licensed its "My Scene" brand name, which focuses on preteens,
to Single Touch Interactive. This month, they'll sell a full-service
$79.99 cell phone with prepaid minutes priced at 25 cents each. Next
year, Walt Disney launches Disney Mobile service through Sprint. It is
designed for families with kids as young as 10.

Some companies are aiming even younger.

Just in time for the new school year, educational tech company
LeapFrog and wireless firm Enfora are launching the $99.99 TicTalk
phone for children ages 6 and older.  Courtesy Firefly Mobile
Inc.Firefly Mobile's phone is geared to kids ages 8 to 12.

Firefly Mobile has a simple $99.99 phone with five "speed-dial"
buttons for "mobile kids."

Many parents are buying in.

Gaithersburg, Md., mom Phyllis Corrao just got her 10-year-old son,
Daniel Mangle, a full-service Nextel phone so she can stay in touch
when he's at school.

Eric Webber of Austin says he's about to cave in and buy his
11-year-old son, Jake, one. "I have the cell phone debate every day,"
says Webber, adding that his son has worn him down.

When parents put phones in kids' hands, they're likely creating a
lifelong cell phone customer, say experts. That gives both the service
providers -- such as Sprint or Verizon -- as well as brands with names
on the handsets -- such as Mattel's "My Scene" -- access to new
customers and sets the stage for future sales.

"Once you give it to them, you can't take it away," Rogers says. He
adds that as kids get older and are exposed to more advanced phones,
"Parents are going to experience a lot of pressure to upgrade."

He says the simpler phones, such as the Firefly, are seeding the way
for future growth. "There is a role for those limited phones to get
people in young and then drive intake of fully functional phones at a
younger age," Rogers says.

In addition to paying for upgraded phones, parents and kids are also
buying ring tones, cell phone shells and hip carrying cases.

Firefly's Web site, for instance, promotes a $12.99 wristlet purse to
carry the phone, as well as colorful "bubble gum" and "limeade"
exchangeable outer shells for the phone at $12.99 each.

That might be just the start. While Disney hasn't disclosed all its
plans, some telecom analysts already are speculating about the
potential it has to market an array of products through Disney Mobile.

Enderle says Disney could sell ring tones that promote its movie
characters or include discount coupons to its theme parks with the
monthly cell phone bill.

That vast marketing potential has some children's advocates worried
about exploitation.

"It's open season on kids," says Gary Ruskin, executive director of
advocacy group Commercial Alert. Ruskin rattles off a range of
concerns, from children being exposed to marketing messages on the
phone itself (such as Mattel's "My Scene" design) to the potential for
kids to be pressured to buy ring tones and accessories.

Ruskin says some companies will harness the nag factor -- when a kid
harasses a parent for so long, the parent gives in -- to sell their
goods.

Marketers defend their phone products. Mattel says: "We believe it is
ultimately the choice of the parent to decide when his or her child is
ready for a cell phone. Research shows that kids are going wireless,
and we wanted to provide girls with a communication device that is not
only functional and fashionable but that also encourages responsible
cell phone use."

It appears that more parents are on Mattel's side. Webber, who works
in the ad industry, says he sees how marketers can take advantage of
kids. His son is already turning ad messages he's heard into arguments
for a phone. "He's playing the safety and security card on me, saying,
'Wouldn't you feel safer if I had it?' " Webber says.

At this point, Webber is just about sold. Both he and Corrao agree
that cell phones can teach their kids about responsibility. Corrao's
son, Daniel, does chores to earn the talk time, and Webber says he'll
do the same with Jake.

Corrao says giving Daniel a phone has paid off in other ways: "He's
called to say he loves me."

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Date: Wed, 07 Sep 2005 18:37:54 -0400
From: John Stahl <aljon@stny.rr.com>
Subject: Laptops Turn On, Tune In to Seattle Metro's New Wi-Fi


Starting today, Seattle bus routes are offering Wi-Fi for FREE on some
of their lines.

Not only in this period of exorbitant gasoline prices can you "leave
the driving to us" (one bus lines logo), but you can doubly save on
the commutation. With FREE Wi-Fi service (forget Blackberry's and
Verizon costly Broadband services) you can get on the Internet and
"work" while you relax on your way to work.

I wish more cities would get gutsy and fight the local Teleco
incumbent (it seems that they and the cable provider think they "own"
connection to the Internet) to put FREE Wi-FI every where (especially
on busses with the high cost of fuel) they want. I haven't heard if
Philly and other cities have given up their quest and fight to put in
these systems.

The article:

Laptops turn on, tune in to Metro's new Wi-Fi
29 buses on two routes offering wireless Net access

By JANE HADLEY
SEATTLE POST-INTELLIGENCER REPORTER  (9/7/05)

Beginning today, some riders on two Metro bus routes will be able to
turn on and tune in their laptops to the Internet using Wi-Fi wireless
connections in a five-month trial that could expand to other routes,
if successful.

By mid-October, all 29 buses that run on ....   <clip for brevity>

URL of article: 
http://seattlepi.nwsource.com/transportation/239688_buswifi07.html

Wish my area in NY had this available.

John Stahl
Data/Telecom Consultant
Aljon Enterprises

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From: jia <jia.qinghua@gmail.com>
Subject: CAS Tone Detection Method
Date: 7 Sep 2005 18:47:05 -0700
Organization: http://groups.google.com


Hi here,

If I use detection method of DTMF to do the CAS(CPE Alerting Signal),
is it OK?

I believe CAS Tone is just a special DTMF Tone with strict requirement.

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Reply-To: <bob@gbtechinc.com>
From: Bob <bob@gbtechinc.com>
Subject: Windows DRM Consultant Needed For 12 Month Position in Atlanta
Date: Wed, 7 Sep 2005 22:31:04 -0700
Organization: Gbtech


Dear Friends,

We are in the process of identifying suitable candidates for the below
described position. If you are best fit for this position, please
respond ASAP by emailing the below requested details to
Bob@gbtechinc.com.

1) updated resume as a word document
2) expected all inclusive hourly rate
3) availability
4) work/visa status
5) and contact details.

Job Details:

Job Title: Windows DRM Consultant
Duration: 12+ months
Location: Atlanta, GA.

Job description:

We are looking for an experienced Senior Windows Software Engineer to
join us for a 12+ month engagement located in Atlanta, GA. You will be
a key member of a dynamic team developing multimedia server and client
applications on the Windows platform. You will be a part of all
aspects of the software development lifecycle, from design and
concept, to testing and maintenance. We are looking for someone
experience with Windows Digital Rights Management (DRM).

Responsibilities will include:

Manage multiple and simultaneous development projects.

Create functional and design specifications for new product features.

Implement new product features.

Diagnose and fix bugs in new and existing code.

Act as a technical resource for the Windows platform.

Requirements/Prerequisites:

Five years experience developing on the Windows platform.

Knowledge of object-oriented design principles, including design patterns.

Extensive knowledge of C and C++ programming.

Extensive knowledge of the Win32 API.

Extensive experience with multi-threaded software.

Strong analytical and communications skills.


Please send resumes ASAP, for an immediate interview.


Regards,

Bob Harris
Sr.Technical Recruiter
Global Technologies Inc
www.GBTechinc.com
Bob@gbtechinc.com

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Date: Wed, 07 Sep 2005 22:04:34 -0500
From: Gordon S. Hlavenka <nospam@crashelex.com>
Reply-To: nospam@crashelex.com
Organization: Crash Electronics
Subject: Re: Bob Denver as Maynard


hancock4@bbs.cpcn.com wrote:

> His most famous role that everyone talks about was as Gilligan, in
> Gilligan's Island.  But I remember him more from his prior role as a
> beatnik, Maynard G Krebs, in "Dobie Gillis".

I liked the way Maynard would always recoil in horror whenever he
heard the word "work"...


Gordon S. Hlavenka           http://www.crashelectronics.com
        If your teacher tells you to Question Authority
                    Should you do it?

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From: Gordon S. Hlavenka <nospam@crashelex.com>
Reply-To: nospam@crashelex.com
Organization: Crash Electronics
Subject: Re: You Can't Foil These Parking Meters/Technology Makes it Easier
Date: Thu, 08 Sep 2005 03:21:00 GMT


Fred Atkinson wrote:

> When we returned to the vehicle, there was a parking ticket on it.
> When I looked at the chalk time versus the time the ticket was issued,
> the difference of the times was only thirty-eight minutes.

Here's a parking meter story from ten or fifteen years ago that I know
PAT will enjoy, because it involves one of his favorite topics:
Chicago government.

The wife and I drove downtown on a Sunday to visit the Field Museum.  We 
were pleasantly surprised when we got there to find ample parking 
curbside.  There were meters, but the meters were placarded "Monday 
through Saturday, 6am to 10pm" so the parking was even free!

We enjoyed our visit to the museum, and when we returned to our car we
found we had been ticketed for parking at an expired meter!  Fifty
bucks!

We took a photo of the meter's placard (with the meter number
showing).  Then we filed an appeal; I forget exactly how it worked but
basically you explain in writing why you shouldn't have gotten the
ticket and mail it to a special address.  Anyway we explained about
the "Monday through Saturday" thing, enclosed the photo, and returned
to our regularly scheduled lives.

Then we got the response.  Denied!  Reason for denial: "Insufficient
evidence" -- what do they want, we should rip up the meter and UPS it
to them with a calendar???

"Fortunately" there is a process in place to appeal the appeal; all we
had to do was fill out another form and send it in along with a
non-refundable $400 check for court costs.  Really!

So we solved the problem the easy way.  We paid the fifty bucks, and
we haven't been to the Field Museum since.


Gordon S. Hlavenka           http://www.crashelectronics.com
        If your teacher tells you to Question Authority
                      Should you do it?


[TELECOM Digest Editor's Note: And I have not been back to Chicago
since 2001, (actually not since 1999, but I returned there very
briefly in 2001 for a couple months) and do not see any reason to return
anytime soon. The whole place is rotten to the core with dirty tricks
as you experienced.  PAT]

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From: Al Gillis <alg@aracnet.com>
Subject: Re: Sid Ceasar and Phones in Comedy
Date: Wed, 7 Sep 2005 20:31:15 -0700
Organization: http://extra.newsguy.com


<hancock4@bbs.cpcn.com> wrote in message
news:telecom24.393.10@telecom-digest.org...

> My local PBS showed clips from old shows.  The telephone figured in
> some of them.

> In one clip, the group got into an argument over the names of the
> Seven Dwarfs from Snow White.  One man makes a few phone calls to ask
> around.  He dialed 5 or 6 digits, but spun the dial very quickly, not
> letting it properly return.  The man then made another call, this time
> dialing only three digits.  "Long Distance?  Get me Walt Disney in
> Hollywood!".  The man repeatedly emphasizes he's spending $3 on long
> distance to find out the info ($3 was maybe $30-$40 today).  He gets
> Walt Disney on the phone (who didn't know the answer), and mentioned
> again he was calling long distance for $3.

> The clip was also interesting for the social world it shown.  The gang
> was headed out for the evening when they got into this argument.  They
> were hollering at each other, and it reminded me of adults of that
> day, which seemed to be hollering at lot more than they do today
> (maybe it was only my world).  Also, they were all dressed up very
> nicely -- men in suits, women in nice dresses.  Today people go out to
> dinner or a movie in beach clothes; we forget in those days people put
> on a necktie or dress quite often when they left the house.

> Another clip was a monologue about a night on the town.  It starts off
> with him calling his girlfriend for a date, and he made exagerated
> sounds of dialing, ringing, etc.

> Those old shows were done live.  When something fouled up -- which
> happened often (forgotten lines, prop would fall down -- the actors
> had to be quick and improvise to keep the sketch moving.  By today's
> standards the humor could be a little bland and the jokes very old.
> But the shows have a kind of vitality often not seen today.  The
> comedy groups were a tight-knit team.  They also could be funny
> without resorting to sex or even politics.

> [TELECOM Digest Editor's Note: One of my favorite telephone gags is
> when the person _merely pretends_ to call someone, but actually has
> his finger holding the hook down while he makes a big production of
> dialing then speaking to whomever (only supposedly), and then mid-way
> through the supposed conversation with the supposed person, the phone
> _actually rings_ with a real call coming in, and of course the
> pretender is quite embarassed at being caught in this obvious lie. I
> first saw this routine in an old Jack Benny show from the 1930's, then
> I saw it again in an "I Love Lucy" show. The third time I saw it was
> when John Ritter (in his role as Jack Tripper, on "Three's Company")
> got caught in that lie on one of the "Three's Company" shows. Viewers
> will recall that poor Jack was always getting in some hassle or
> another on that show, and his two female roomates would always have to
> rescue him.

> The odd part was that on the show where Jack got caught 'with his
> finger on the hook while making a call' (because the phone rang), when
> it happened, the audience roared with laughter, poor Jack looked very
> humiliated as always, but on the 'outakes' (not used in the show but
> available on the video of 'outakes' several years later) who should
> walk on the set at that moment but Lucille Ball -- not normally on the
> show except two or three times as a special guest) and she sternly
> said "John, you stole one of my better laughs!" and Ritter replied,
> "but my writers got it from the same guy you did, Jack Benny!". Miss
> Ball gave him a dirty look and stalked off the stage. The audience
> loved it; because the applause for Lucille Ball and the laughter on
> account of the joke went on for so long the producers had to cut it
> out of the tape entirely. You are correct, Lisa, they could tell jokes
> and have funny situations in a clean way on television in years gone
> past.  PAT]

Another bit of early TV crazyness happened with Jackie Gleason and Art
Carney.  Ralph Cramden (Jackie) had just gotten a new telephone
installed in his apartment.  Jackie and Alice were both quite proud of
this new addition to their cold water, walk up flat.

Anyway, Ed Norton (Art) came to the Cramden apartment that evening and
asked to use the telephone.  Jackie told his pal, "Sure -- go ahead.
But remember this costs me money for every call".  (Jackie had
obviously ordered a measured line).  So Ed/Art dials a number, listens
for a while and then hangs up.  Then he raises his arm and adjusts the
time on his wristwatch.  Jackie/Ralph goes nuts!  He berates his pal
for wasting money on a phone call just to find out what time it was!
Norton, in his usual response to Ralph's outbursts, grabs his hat off
his head and dashes out the door!

Maybe I spend to much time in the past, but I miss that old stuff
 ... no vulgar language, no profanity, no sexual overtones, just funny,
funny stuff!  Probably so funny as it mirrored us or our friends so
closely!

Thanks, Pat, for bringing this memory to the surface!

Al


[TELECOM Digest Editor's Note: You are quite welcome. Did you ever see
any of 'The Honeymooners, Color Episodes' (as they were called), a few
years following the demise of the original 'Honeymooners' series? Both
Jackie Gleason and Art Carney were in it, but different actresses 
played their wives. For whatever reason, TVLand does not run that series
and they (TVLand) only occassionally mentions the original Honeymooners
series these days. Do you remember when Jackie Gleason (actually, for
real) broke his leg near the end of one of the shows as part of a gag
he was doing?  Normally, Gleason came out at the end of every show to
say goodnight to the audience, but as the final curtain went down, we
see him slip and fall; people begin to realize that this time it was
_not_ a joke, and instead of Gleason coming out to crack his final
joke and say goodnight, someone else came out to do it. 

Do you also recall how Honeymooners was _originally_ just a fifteen
minute segment on Jackie Gleason? In addition to Honeymooners, he 
had a routine called 'the Poor Soul' and a couple others each week.
Eventually though, Honeymooners began getting 30 minutes of the show
each week, then finally an hour, except for the June Taylor Dancers
who were always the first act.  PAT]

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