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TELECOM Digest Thu, 11 Aug 2005 23:27:00 EDT Volume 24 : Issue 363 Inside This Issue: Editor: Patrick A. Townson Mobile Phone Virus Infects Helsinki Championships (Reuters News Wire) Amazon Settles Patent Lawsuit (Retuers News Wire) ISOC Adopts Strategic Operating Plan, Seats New Board (Peter Godwin) Texas Lawmakers Greenlight Video Franchise Bill (USTelecom dailyLead) 800 Number - Prepaid - Walmart (Jason Vance) Re: Don't Forget Peter Jennings'... Flaw (Garrett Wollman) Re: Don't Forget Peter Jennings'... Flaw (William Warren) Re: Don't Forget Peter Jennings'... Flaw (Joseph) Re: Don't Forget Peter Jennings'... Flaw (Charles Cryderman) Re: Hiroshima Marks 60th Anniversary of Atomic Bomb Attack (A Hastings) Re: Hiroshima Marks 60th Anniversary of Atomic Bomb Attack (L Hancock) Employment Opportunity-System Engineering (grant.gibson@us.fujitsu.com) Telecom and VOIP (Voice over Internet Protocol) Digest for the Internet. 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Geoffrey Welsh =========================== See the bottom of this issue for subscription and archive details and the name of our lawyer; other stuff of interest. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Reuters News Wire <reuters@telecom-digest.org> Subject: Mobile Phone Virus Infects Helsinki Championships Date: Thu, 11 Aug 2005 19:32:00 -0500 Visitors to the world athletics championships in Finland have had to brave wind and rain, and officials say they now face the possibility of catching the world's first mobile phone virus. Officials in mobile-mad Finland, home to the world's largest cellphone maker Nokia, said there had been outbreaks of the Cabir virus at Helsinki's Olympic Stadium. "At most we are speaking about dozens of infections, but during a short period and in one spot this is a huge number," said Jarmo Koski, a security official at telecoms firm TeliaSonera. Cabir, first reported in June last year, uses Bluetooth short range wireless signals to jump between cellphones. That means it can spread over distances of up to 10 metres (30 feet), which in a packed stadium could include dozens of phones. The recipient needs to accept a download to be infected and, while telecoms security officials say the risk of catching a mobile virus is small, thousands of phones have already been hit around the world. "There must be a lot of infected phones at the stadium and a lot of Bluetooth traffic," said Antti Vihavainen, head of the mobile unit at antivirus software firm F-Secure. "It is the early version of Cabir, which can infect only one phone at a time. Later versions of Cabir are much more fierce. Since it was invented, the virus has so far spread to more than 20 countries, from the United States to Japan and from Finland to South Africa. F-Secure says there are 55 viruses or other malicious programmes spreading between cellphones and other mobile devices. Cabir drains the power of the infected phone as it tries to replicate itself on nearby mobiles but the most damaging viruses could disable a phone, requiring a factory reset. Copyright 2005 Reuters Limited. NOTE: For more telecom/internet/networking/computer news from the daily media, check out our feature 'Telecom Digest Extra' each day at http://telecom-digest.org/td-extra/more-news.html . Hundreds of new articles daily. ------------------------------ From: Reuters News Wire <reuters@telecom-digest.org> Subject: Amazon Settles Patent Lawsuit for $40 Million Date: Thu, 11 Aug 2005 19:11:23 -0500 Amazon.com Inc. on Thursday said it will pay $40 million in the third quarter to settle a patent infringement lawsuit with Soverain Software LLC. The settlement of the lawsuit, which was originally filed in 2004 in Texas, was announced in a filing with the Securities and Exchange Commission. Amazon, the online retailer, said the settlement also includes the dismissal of all claims and counterclaims, mutual releases, and a nonexclusive license to Soverain's patent portfolio. Soverain had filed the suit against Amazon on January 12, 2004 in the U.S. District Court for the Eastern District of Texas, Amazon said in the filing. Copyright 2005 Reuters Limited. NOTE: For more telecom/internet/networking/computer news from the daily media, check out our feature 'Telecom Digest Extra' each day at http://telecom-digest.org/td-extra/more-news.html . Hundreds of new articles daily. ------------------------------ From: Peter Godwin <godwin@isoc.org> Date: Thu, 11 Aug 2005 14:08:18 +0200 Organization: Internet Society Subject: ISOC Adopts Strategic Operating Plan, Seats New Board Reston, VA - 11th August 2005 - The Board of Trustees of the Internet Society formally adopted ISOC's new Strategic Operating Plan (SOP) during the the society's Annual General Meeting in Paris. The SOP provides a high-level framework outlining the society's vision, mission and values, goals and objectives, and programs and projects. The Plan will be used extensively to drive the definition of future activities in line with ISOC's core values. The full text of the ISOC SOP is available at: http://www.isoc.org/isoc/SOP.pdf "I am excited about the launch of the society's Strategic Operating Plan," said Lynn St. Amour, President and CEO of the Internet Society. "ISOC has made significant progress in the last several years and we are now well positioned to continue building on our past success. This Plan heralds the start of a new era for ISOC as we move forward to address the new challenges facing the Internet." ISOC's Board of Trustees now includes those members that were selected in a recent election process for terms 2005 to 2008. During these elections two members of the new board were selected by the society's organization members --- Glenn Ricart of PricewaterhouseCoopers was re-elected, and Daniel Karrenberg of the RIPE NCC joined the Board. Veni Markovski (President and Chairman of the Board of ISOC Bulgaria) was re-elected by ISOC's chapters. "We're delighted to welcome Daniel Karrenberg to the ISOC Board," said Fred Baker, Chair of the ISOC Board of Trustees. "Daniel brings with him a wealth of experience gained during his work with building up and managing the processes behind the operations of the RIPE NCC, one of the five Regional Internet Registries." As part of ISOC's election process, one member of the Board is named each year by the IETF, through selection by the Internet Architecture Board (IAB) and confirmation by the IESG. ISOC is pleased to announce that Fred Baker of Cisco will be returning for a new three year term. Baker was also re-elected as Chair of the ISOC Board of Trustees for a further one year term. The current members of the Internet Society's Board of Trustees, their countries and terms of office are listed below: Fred Baker, Chair (USA): 2002-2008 Rosa M. Delgado (Peru/Switzerland): 2000-2006 Lynn St. Amour, President and CEO, 2001- Glenn Ricart, Treasurer (USA): 2002-2008 Veni Markovski (Bulgaria): 2002-2008 Pindar Wong (Hong Kong): 2003-2006 Erik Huizer (Netherlands): 2002-2007 Desire Miloshevic (Serbia/UK): 2004-2007 Patrick Vande Walle (Luxembourg): 2004-2007 Steve Crocker (USA): 2003-2006 Stephen Squires (USA): 2004-2007 Margaret Wasserman (USA): 2003-2006 Daniel Karrenberg (Germany/Netherlands): 2005-2008 ### ABOUT ISOC The Internet Society (http://www.isoc.org) is a not-for-profit membership organization founded in 1992 to provide leadership in Internet related standards, education, and policy. With offices in Washington, DC, and Genev a, Switzerland, it is dedicated to ensuring the open development, evolution and use of the Internet for the benefit of people throughout the world. ISOC is the organizational home of the Internet Engineering Task Force (IETF) and other Internet-related bodies who together play a critical role in ensuring that the Internet develops in a stable and open manner. For over 13 years I= SOC has run international network training programs for developing countries and these have played a vital role in setting up the Internet connections and networks in virtually every country connecting to the Internet during this time. FOR FURTHER DETAILS: Peter Godwin Communications Manager, Internet Society E-mail: godwin@isoc.org 4, rue des Falaises 1205 Geneva Switzerland ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 11 Aug 2005 13:12:23 EDT From: USTelecom dailyLead <ustelecom@dailylead.com> Subject: Texas Lawmakers Greenlight Video Franchise Bill USTelecom dailyLead August 11, 2005 http://www.dailylead.com/latestIssue.jsp?i=23772&l=2017006 TODAY'S HEADLINES NEWS OF THE DAY * Texas lawmakers greenlight video franchise bill BUSINESS & INDUSTRY WATCH * Qualcomm to buy Flarion * Cisco chief seeks to squelch Nokia rumors * BellSouth: IPTV's coming in 2006 * Cable One picks Nortel for VoIP * HBO, Cingular talk wireless distribution * Deutsche Telekom, XO post earnings USTELECOM SPOTLIGHT * 3G Wireless with WiMAX and Wi-Fi EMERGING TECHNOLOGIES * Execs ponder TiVo's future REGULATORY & LEGISLATIVE * Rural carriers have option under new DSL rules Follow the link below to read quick summaries of these stories and others. http://www.dailylead.com/latestIssue.jsp?i=23772&l=2017006 Legal and Privacy information at http://www.dailylead.com/about/privacy_legal.jsp SmartBrief, Inc. 1100 H ST NW, Suite 1000 Washington, DC 20005 ------------------------------ From: Jason Vance <jason@tricocopier.com> Subject: 800 Number - Prepaid - Walmart Date: Thu, 11 Aug 2005 13:15:02 -0500 AT&T developed the card (patent #:6694003) primarily as a PRIVACY service. Original intent was that if you needed to hear from someone, but did not want them to know your name or location, you would purchase card, activate service, and then callers could reach you. Number they dialed, would route to any number you programmed in. They added a "follow me" feature which if (for example) you didn't answer at first location, call would re-route to your back-up number. PLUS -- 800 service without big set-up hassles. AND near total anonymity. (I am sure AT&T would co-operate if card were used for nefarious purposes. Original thought was that card purchaser would only activate the card for very limited, very short time, purposes (hence, the cost-per minute was not really the primary issue). PS: As far as I know (so far) ... the card and the service is available ONLY thru Walmart. <https://www.plaxo.com/add_me?u=4295555126&v0=1170217&k0=1395282409> Add me to your address book... <http://www.plaxo.com/signature> Want a signature like this? Jason Vance ------------------------------ From: wollman@khavrinen.csail.mit.edu (Garrett Wollman) Subject: Re: Don't Forget Peter Jennings'... Flaw Date: Wed, 10 Aug 2005 20:29:22 +0000 (UTC) Organization: MIT Computer Science & Artificial Intelligence Laboratory In article <telecom24.362.12@telecom-digest.org>, TELECOM Digest Editor noted n response to Joseph <JoeOfSeattle@yahoo.com>: > [TELECOM Digest Editor's Note: This Digest does not exist to serve as > a mouthpiece for CDT or for that matter, _any of Usenet_. I'd be happy to issue a rmgroup for you if that's really how you feel. Frankly, there's been so little of any interest (or indeed relevance to telecom) in this newsgroup in so long, I really wouldn't miss it. > Usenet is so nineteen-sixtyish it is not funny. BZZZZZT! Wrong, but thanks for playing. Usenet was invented in 1979. [Second Amendment screed deleted as irrelevant.] Garrett A. Wollman | As the Constitution endures, persons in every wollman@csail.mit.edu | generation can invoke its principles in their own Opinions not those | search for greater freedom. of MIT or CSAIL. | - A. Kennedy, Lawrence v. Texas, 539 U.S. 558 (2003) [TELECOM Digest Editor's Note: 1979? Really? I thought Al Gore invented it in 1994 when he invented the web. I find it interesting that you only challenged the year (1979 versus 1960-ish) and not my main point about many of the people who hang out a lot on Usenet. Please accept my correction -- my typographical error -- go back and read my thoughts again, using 1979-ish instead of 1960-ish won't you please? See if you can pick me apart again doing it that way. Thank you! PAT] ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 11 Aug 2005 01:11:24 -0400 From: William Warren <william_warren_nonoise@comcast.net> Subject: Re: Don't Forget Peter Jennings'... Flaw Steve Sobol wrote: > alan@bloomfieldpress.com wrote: >> Newscasters and reporters are falling all over themselves trying to >> out-praise the now deceased Peter Jennings. I suppose it's only >> natural, but it hides something important. > You're entitled to your opinion. However, I think you're exceedingly > foolish if you believe any particular slant in ABC's coverage is the > fault of Jennings or any other reporter. Your posthumous attack seems > rather sleazy to me -- you should direct your ire at the people > actually responsible for making decisions about coverage. How's he going to do that if they're watching us from the black helicopters using silent mode all the time? Besides, it's impossible to talk to them: don't you know that the black helicopters have special encrypted radios that not even tinfoil can stop? The black helicopters have special mind rays that control us! They used to belong to a Well-Regulated Militia until the John Birch Society bought them at surplus ... William "If you're not smiling, you need help" Warren (Filter noise from my address for direct emails) [TELECOM Digest Editor's Note: Delightful, touche, and all that. Sadly, many Second Amendment advocates are of that John Birch mentality. Not all, nor even very many of them, but the crackpots who _are_ of the John Birch mentality are like crackpots most anywhere; loud and noisy. PAT] ------------------------------ From: Joseph <JoeOfSeattle@yahoo.com> Subject: Re: Don't Forget Peter Jennings'... Flaw Date: Thu, 11 Aug 2005 06:06:23 -0700 Reply-To: JoeOfSeattle@yahoo.com On Wed, 10 Aug 2005 06:09:51 -0700, TELECOM Digest Editor noted in reponse to Joseph <JoeOfSeattle@yahoo.com>: > [TELECOM Digest Editor's Note: This Digest does not exist to serve as > a mouthpiece for CDT or for that matter, _any of Usenet_. Usenet is > so nineteen-sixtyish it is not funny. It might have been a cute and > quaint thing back in the 1980's or even the 1990's, but this is 2005 > for god's sake. Only a ... well ... Usenetter would pay any attention > to the load of crap coming out of that network most of the time. > And although you (obviously!) do not believe in the Second Amendment > to the US Constitution it _is_ one of our rights (not privileges) as > citizens here. Well, despite what you say you believe anyone (evidently) who has an axe to grind can have their say about anything. And it also appears that telecom doesn't have anything to do with CDT or Telecom Digest any longer and is only a place where any lugnut can spew his opinion never mind that it doesn't have any tangental relevance to telecom at all. [TELECOM Digest Editor's Note: I think what I shall do is start an adjunct digest; I shall call it SOCIETY Digest or SPAMMER Digest or even maybe ADJUNCT Digest or as a last ditch thing, maybe TOWNSON Digest. (All those words) Digest have _seven letters_ just like 'TELECOM', ergo I won't even have to re-write all the 1960-ish scripts I use to put it out each day, especially since the onset of my beloved Deseased Brain I have lost the ability and patience to write shell scripts anyway other than changing a few print statements to my liking. I'll add a few Google Adsense messages on the web version just as I do with telecom and collect on the revenue from the clicks there. That's all that really matters for most of us web publishers on the net these days anyway is the Google Scorecard isn't it? To answer your question bluntly and succintly (and with this benediction I hope and pray this thread soon comes to a close without having to rudely toss many of the messages on same) I _firmly_ and _strongly_ support the US Constitution the way it is written. I do wish that those guys in the 18th century, Adams, Jefferson, et al had been able to tell the future, or been as succinct at times in their writings as I attempt to be with mine. (snore!). Especially, a wee bit more laborious in writing numbers one and two. Break up one to be more plain about religion and speech and in the case of two, to be more precise about terms like 'well regulated militia' and re-ordered their punctuation a bit differently, removing any and all doubt about each of those two Amendments. Both of them (one and two) give us much grief when there are court battles about them. My opinion: if number two means what many claim it means, that a 'well regulated militia' refers to the National Guard or the military service in general and this 'well regulated' National Guard or military has a right to bear arms but the rest of us ordinary citizens do _not_ have such a right, then I would have to say that is the one item in the Bill of Rights which allows the _government_ (as opposed to regular citizens a 'right'). The National Guard or the Army does not have to get permission (in the form of a constitutional amendment) to 'bear arms'. Think about it that way; the entire Bill of Rights was written to provide we the people with certain rights; does it make sense that the second amendment is an exception to that, and it (second amendment) is to give the government 'rights'? The government does not need protection from the people; the people are the ones needing protection. So why would the Bill of Rights grant the 'right to bear arms' to its own agencies (National Guard and Army, etc). A 'well regulated militia', IMO, refers to _law abiding_ citizens who wish to arm themselves. Now if 'well regulated' equals 'law abiding' (instead of equalling 'a government agency' as the government claims) then we have problems. Far too many of us are not 'well regulated' in that sense; we grow angry or we get drunk or we otherwise break the law and take our host- ility out on police officers and other more 'well-regulated' citizens. Does it seem a bit odd that the New York Times constantly chatters about 'gun control' yet the late publisher of that journal used to always get chauffered to work each day carrying a gun in his suit pocket or briefcase? Many people think that 'gun control' should apply to everyone else _except for themselves_. I can trust me, but I can't trust you, that sort of thing. And you never hear of the ACLU taking on a Second Amendment case; they seem to be happy with the status quo also. I personally am frightened of guns. I do not want one in my house; I grow ill when I have touched a gun in the past; but I certainly would not restrict the right of _other folks_ to have them and use them as needed, but the government does just that. The regulations on gun ownership and use in the USA are so restrictive that about all I can say to anyone who has a _legitimate, bonafide need_ to ever use a gun in the protection of their property or life or family's lives, etc, do what you need to do but then _destroy the gun and ditch it totally_. Do not let the gun stand in the way of detirmining who the true villian was; the person who made the use of the gun necessary. And do not ask me for support of some crackpot notion from John Birch and all that rot. President Bush is strongly in favor of 'gun control', and that should give you something to think about. PAT] ------------------------------ Subject: Re: Don't Forget Peter Jennings'... Flaw Date: Thu, 11 Aug 2005 16:57:49 -0400 From: Charles Cryderman <Charles.Cryderman@globalcrossing.com> Steve Sobol responded to a somewhat crass commit on Mr. Jennings: > You're entitled to your opinion. However, I think you're exceedingly = > foolish if you believe any particular slant in ABC's coverage is the = > fault of Jennings or any other reporter. Your posthumous attack seems = > rather sleazy to me -- you should direct your ire at the people actually = > responsible for making decisions about coverage. Actually Steve you are wrong on this one. Last night August 10, 2006, ABC had a wonderful retrospective on Mr. Jennings. His title was "Senior Editor, ABC World News Tonight". As such, he was given total control over the content of "ABC World News Tonight - With Peter Jennings". This included what stores to present and how they were to be presented. One Reporter even told of how all, that were to report a story for each show had to submit their script to him for approval. This one gentlemen went so far as to say how proud he was the one and only time he submitted a script and it came back with no marks (Peter like his red pen I guess). Now, yes the original poster's attack was very sleazy but as is his right in our country he can have his opinion and state it as his wishes. I am a firm believer in the Second Amendment and am a very proud gun owner. That said, Peter Jennings was one of the best of his profession and I enjoyed his reporting, especially how well he understood the Mid-east. Chip Cryderman [TELECOM Digest Editor's Note: I am not a 'proud gun owner' and in fact guns scare me a lot. But I support the people who own them and use them _properly_ as needed. If you went around Independence here, you are not going to find a bunch of raving lunatics driving in the streets waving or displaying or shooting off their weapons. But if you went to at least a few private homes, you would find some weapons put away, out of children's reach, unloaded, etc to be used as the need arose. Peter Jennings was a good reporter, and he _did_ control the stuff that went out on the air, but yes, he did have that one 'blind spot' in his life; he did not 'believe in' the private ownership of weapons, and he did not promote any positive publicity on private gun ownership; many others in the media do not either. PAT] ------------------------------ From: Andrew Hastings <abh@nospam.acm.org> Subject: Re: Hiroshima Marks 60th Anniversary of Atomic Bomb Attack Date: Wed, 10 Aug 2005 14:25:42 -0500 Organization: Sun Microsystems Corporation According to Edward Teller as quoted by John McCarthy, the miscalculation may have been intentional. See http://www-formal.stanford.edu/jmc/teller.html. -Andrew jtaylor wrote: > Tony P. <kd1s@nospamplease.cox.reallynospam.net> wrote in message > news:telecom24.361.15@telecom-digest.org... >> The Germans were pretty much on their way to having their own atomic >> weapons. > The stuff I've read (Farm Hall transcripts, for instance) says no, > they were working on a pile, not bombs. They miscalculated the amount > of fissionable material necessary and so thought they could not > a) get enough; > b) if not a), get such a big bomb to anywhere it would do them any good. ------------------------------ From: hancock4@bbs.cpcn.com Subject: Re: Hiroshima Marks 60th Anniversary of Atomic Bomb Attack Date: 10 Aug 2005 19:07:06 -0700 Organization: http://groups.google.com jtaylor wrote: >> The Germans were pretty much on their way to having their own atomic >> weapons. > The stuff I've read (Farm Hall transcripts, for instance) says no, > they were working on a pile, not bombs. They miscalculated the amount > of fissionable material necessary and so thought they could not Germany was clearly interested in developing nuclear power for military purposes. However, as stated, the project didn't get very far. The Allies went to a lot of trouble to disrupt a source of heavy water. Before the war even ended, an American specialist team went into Germany to get German scientists and their records. See "Now it can be told" by Gen. Leslie Groves. Japan was also working on a nuclear weapon, although their project was extremely limited in size and basically just lab research. When nuclear fission was discovered and announced in January 1939, scientists worldwide knew of the potential for extremely powerful weapons and began to think about the issues involved. We are fortunate that making a nuclear weapon is not easy at all. This is why 60 years later so few nations have them. Making the fuel is very difficult as well is detonation. Of course, one can't help but wonder what would've happened if the U.S. had the bomb a year later, say August 1944. The Allies still face high losses slogging through Europe to Germany at that point, and a great many losses in the Pacific against Japan. Thousands, perhaps millions of enemy civilians and soldiers would also die. The shock of a single bomb doing the work of a huge fleet of conventional bombers would've been the shock to end the war. ------------------------------ From: grant.gibson@us.fujitsu.com Subject: Employment Opportunity - System Engineering Date: 11 Aug 2005 14:01:22 -0700 Organization: http://groups.google.com SYSTEM ENGINEERING Job Description: Work as a senior member of an R&D System Engineering team that defines product requirements and architectures for a new Fiber to the Prem (FTTP) product. Skills and Abilities: * Prior System Engineering experience is required. * Ability to write product requirements and define product architectures based on ITU, Telcordia, and other industry standards. * Must be a team player that can work independently with little or no supervision. In depth knowledge and product implementation experience in 1 or more of the following technologies is required: * VOICE: VOIP-H.248, MGCP, GR-303, GR-909, echo cancellation, MOS, soft switch, Custom, Local, Area Switching Service (CLASS) * VIDEO: MPEG2, MPEG4, Video on Demand (VOD) Multicast, IPTV, MOCA * GPON: G.984, FTTP, GR-909, GR-57 CORE * HFC/Cable Systems: DOCSIS, OpenCable, CableHome, Residential COAX distribution system design * IP transport and switching: SIP, DNS, DHCP, IGMP, NAT, IPSEC, RTSP Knowledge / Experience in the following preferred but not required: * Residential Gateway / Home Networking * Ethernet, Layer 2 switching, VLAN, Q in Q, MPLS, pseudowire (Martini specs) * Metro Ethernet Forum (MEF) specifications, QOS * Carrier Tariffs, SLA's, RFI's, RFQ's Education: BS / MS Electrical Engineering or Computer Science Years of Experience: 10+ years of Industry Experience Location: Pearl River, NY Applicants should email their resume in MS Word format along with their salary requirements to: grant.gibson@us.fujitsu.com ------------------------------ TELECOM Digest is an electronic journal devoted mostly to telecomm- unications topics. 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