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TELECOM Digest Fri, 10 Jun 2005 19:54:00 EDT Volume 24 : Issue 261
Inside This Issue: Editor: Patrick A. Townson
Telecom Update #485, June 10, 2005 (Angus TeleManagement Group)
Bellsouth Caller ID (Choreboy)
Altigen Workgroup Outbound caller ID (citius21j@yahoo.com)
Nortel's President Resigns (Telecom dailyLead from USTA)
US Robotics 005605 Modem and VOIP (colin@nomailspam.com)
Can Verizon Phone Be Used With Bell Mobility in Canada? (aqabbas)
Access Personal Contacts, Notes Through Text Messaging (Phil)
Re: 'Phone Tapping' Modem Traffic ? (mc)
Re: 'Phone Tapping' Modem Traffic ? (Robert Bonomi)
Re: Verizon's Voice Mailboxes Now Give 'Shout Out' to Verizon (Joseph)
Re: Cannot Cancel AT&T Service After Moving to Vonage (Danny Burstein)
Re: Can You Disable Text Messaging? (Isaiah Beard)
Re: MCI Now Charging Extra on Payphones When Using Phone Card! (Levine)
Re: Why There Are Questions About GoDaddy (T. Sean Weintz)
Re: Digest New Sponsorship (T. Sean Weintz)
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IN THIS ISSUE:
** Policy Review Asks 106 Questions
** Nortel President, CTO Resign
** Cogeco Enters Local Phone Business
** Some VoIP Providers Get 9-1-1 Extension
** RIM's Patent Settlement Stalls
** Consortium Wants 5-1-1 for Weather & Travel Info
** Bell Announces Global VoIP Trial
** Nortel Offers Unified Applications Platform
** Sierra Gives Up on Smartphone
** Building Access Rules Include Utelcos
** Rogers Extends Ultra-Lite to Newfoundland
** PIAC Wants Price Cap Amendments
** Telus and IEEE Sponsor Student Contest
** Bell Buys Western ERP Integrator
** Call Genie Names New CEO
** Allstream's Macdonald on Medical Leave
** CIRA Warns Against Password Fraud
** Orion Holds Research Summit
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POLICY REVIEW ASKS 106 QUESTIONS: The Telecom Policy Review
Committee's consultation paper, released on Monday, invites comments
on a broad range of issues in order "not to prejudge or prematurely
eliminate areas of interest and potential reform."
** "Canada has generally been well served by the policy and
regulatory framework that evolved over the last century,"
says the paper, but asks, "Should changes be made [to this
framework] to better equip Canada to reap future benefits
from developments in telecommunications and ICT as these
become more powerful enablers of our social and economic
lives?"
** 106 specific questions are organized in seven sections:
the changing telecom environment, the regulatory
framework, regulatory institutions, Canada's connectivity
agenda, making the most of technology, other issues, and
implementation.
** First-round submissions are due August 15; comments on
the submissions are to be made by September 15. The panel
hopes to make its recommendations before the end of 2005.
www.telecomreview.ca/epic/internet/intprp-gecrt.nsf/en/h_rx00015e.html
NORTEL PRESIDENT, CTO RESIGN: Newly recruited President and CTO Gary
Daichendt has resigned from Nortel Networks as a result of what CEO
Bill Owens terms "divergent management styles and ... business views."
CTO Gary Kunis, who previously worked with Daichendt in Cisco Systems
and joined Nortel following Daichendt's appointment, has also left the
company.
COGECO ENTERS LOCAL PHONE BUSINESS: On June 8, Cogeco Cable launched
digital telephone service in Burlington and Oakville, Ontario. The
company says it will extend service to most of the cities it serves by
December 2006.
** Service is $44.99 for customers who also take Cogeco High
Speed Internet and cable TV; $49.95 for those who take
only Internet.
** Included: unlimited Canada and U.S. long distance; voice
mail and four other features; 4-1-1, 6-1-1, and 9-1-1; and
eight-hour battery back up.
SOME VOIP PROVIDERS GET 9-1-1 EXTENSION: In response to applications
by Vonage, SaskTel, BananaTel, MTS Allstream, Primus, and Globility,
the CRTC has given these providers until August 17 to ensure that
their nomadic VoIP 9-1-1 calls are routed to the correct emergency
center. (See Telecom Update #482)
www.crtc.gc.ca/archive/ENG/Letters/2005/lt050527.htm
RIM'S PATENT SETTLEMENT STALLS: Research In Motion says it has reached
an impasse in efforts to finalize its patent licensing agreement with
NTP Inc. and is taking court action to enforce the settlement. (See
Telecom Update #473) NTP says it will now ask for a court injunction
blocking BlackBerry sales in the U.S.
CONSORTIUM WANTS 5-1-1 FOR WEATHER & TRAVEL INFO: The Canada 511
Consortium, consisting of Environment Canada, Transport Canada,
Canadian Urban Transit Association, Transportation Association of
Canada, the Intelligent Transportation Systems Society of Canada, all
ten provincial governments, and the Yukon Territorial government, has
asked the CRTC to assign the 5-1-1 as a telephone number for the free
delivery of weather and travel information to the public.
www.crtc.gc.ca/archive/ENG/Notices/2005/pt2005-5.htm
BELL ANNOUNCES GLOBAL VoIP TRIAL: Bell Canada has begun trials of
Global Voice over Internet Protocol, which provides flat-rate
intra-company international long distance service over a virtual
private IP network. International connectivity is from BT Infonet.
NORTEL OFFERS UNIFIED APPLICATIONS PLATFORM: Nortel Networks has
announced its new Applications Center, which provides a open standards
and SIP-based platform for contact center, speech recognition, unified
messaging, and multimedia collaboration tools. Also announced:
** New releases of Nortel's Contact Center Suite (formerly
Symposium), CallPilot Unified Messaging, and CS 1000
IP-PBX.
** IP Phone 2007, Nortel's first full colour screen phone.
** Nortel's new Multimedia Office Client, which provides
multimedia enhancement of Microsoft Office Outlook.
SIERRA GIVES UP ON SMARTPHONE: Sierra Wireless says it will sell or
shut down its Voq Professional Phone business in order to focus on its
core PC card business. Voq, a competitor of BlackBerry and Treo
smartphones, secured a $9.5 million federal government investment but
sold only an estimated 4,000 units. (See Telecom Update #403, 427)
BUILDING ACCESS RULES INCLUDE UTELCOS: In response to a 2003
application, the CRTC has extended the multi-dwelling unit access
agreement guidelines set in Telecom Decision 2003-45 to include
members of the Coalition of Hydro Telecom Service Providers. (See
Telecom Update #402)
www.crtc.gc.ca/archive/ENG/Decisions/2005/dt2005-33.htm
ROGERS EXTENDS ULTRA-LITE TO NEWFOUNDLAND: Rogers Cable has begun
offering its Hi-Speed Internet Ultra-Lite service in Newfoundland. The
service offers speeds of up to 128 Kbps download and 64 Kbps upload
for $19.95 per month.
PIAC WANTS PRICE CAP AMENDMENTS: Responding to the CRTC's proposal to
extend the current price cap regime for two years (see Telecom Update
#481), the Public Interest Advocacy Centre says that current consumer
price levels are too high, and has asked for an extended process to
review them. The CRTC has postponed the comment deadline to June 20,
but says its proposal "does not contemplate a detailed review of any
aspect" of the current regime.
www.crtc.gc.ca/PartVII/eng/2005/8678/c12_200505729.htm#4a
TELUS AND IEEE SPONSOR STUDENT CONTEST: Telus and the Institute of
Electrical and Electronics Engineers have initiated an annual contest
for Information Computing and Telecommunications projects submitted by
undergraduate engineering or technology students. The IEEE Telus
Innovation Award features $20,000 in cash prizes.
www.ieee.ca/students/telus_award/index.htm
BELL BUYS WESTERN ERP INTEGRATOR: Bell Canada has acquired
Winnipeg-based CSB Systems, an Enterprise Resource Planning (ERP)
systems integrator that specializes in Microsoft mid- market ERP
software products Navision and Syspro. CSB will become part of the
recently-formed Bell Business Solutions organization.
CALL GENIE NAMES NEW CEO: Call Genie, a Calgary-based supplier of
voice directory technology, management, and support services, has
named Michael Durance, a VP of Toshiba's telecom division, as Chief
Executive Officer.
ALLSTREAM'S MACDONALD ON MEDICAL LEAVE: John McDonald, President of
MTS's Allstream division, began medical leave on June 10 for
undisclosed reasons. MTS announced that CEO Bill Fraser will be
overseeing Allstream until MacDonald returns.
CIRA WARNS AGAINST PASSWORD FRAUD: The Canadian Internet Registration
Authority warns against fake email messages purporting be from CIRA,
which ask dot-ca domain name holders for their CIRA user account
number or password. Do not share this information with anyone, CIRA
says.
ORION HOLDS RESEARCH SUMMIT: The Ontario Research and Innovation
Optical Network (ORION), which provides high bandwidth connectivity to
Ontario universities and research institutions, is holding its 2005
summit in Toronto June 13 and 14. Registration is open to the public,
at $295 for the two-day event.
www.orion.on.ca/events/ontariorandesummit.html
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From: Choreboy <choreboyREMOVE@localnet.com>
Subject: Bellsouth Caller ID
Date: Fri, 10 Jun 2005 13:45:43 -0400
Organization: Posted via Supernews, http://www.supernews.com
Caller ID won't show names for some cellphone callers. I decided to
ask Bellsouth if their Caller ID would show names of cellphone callers
with any cellphone carriers, and if so, what carriers.
Bellsouth loves calling customers for telemarketing but doesn't like
having customers call Customer Service. I decided to try email. I
was redirected to a page telling me I wouldn't be allowed on unless I
downloaded Netscape or Explorer. Some sites won't work very well with
some browsers, but this is the first time a website wouldn't allow me
on except with specified browsers.
Netscape 7 is unacceptable for Mac OS9 because Netscape dropped
support and left it full of serious bugs. I happened to have Explorer
but prefer two newer browsers that are more versatile and
standards-compliant. Bellsouth expected me to do a 15 MB download
before I could email them. It's not a customer-friendly company.
As they'd warned, Bellsouth made me wait 48 hours. The answer was
that whether Caller ID showed a name for a cellphone caller would
depend on what carrier the caller was using.
So Bellsouth won't tell me what cellphone carriers provide names for
their Caller ID. Is this information available anywhere?
------------------------------
From: citius21j@yahoo.com
Subject: Altigen Workgroup Outbound Caller ID
Date: 10 Jun 2005 11:20:29 -0700
Hi,
Could someone please help me with this. We are using the ALTIGEN
SYSTEM We have 2 workgroups set up for two separate businesses we are
running. I have entered two different transmitted CID numbers for
them but they dont seem to be displayed when an agent logged into the
workgroup is making an outbound call. It seems to pull up the
transmitted CID number for the agent. Please guide me as how to get
the different business number show up when the agent is making
outbound call from the workgroup.
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Date: Fri, 10 Jun 2005 12:35:39 EDT
From: Telecom dailyLead from USTA <usta@dailylead.com>
Subject: Nortel's President Resigns
Telecom dailyLead from USTA
June 10, 2005
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Subject: US Robotics 005605 Modem and VOIP
From: colin@nomailspam.com
Date: Fri, 10 Jun 2005 15:40:08 -0500
I have a US Robotics 005605 (aka Model 0525) 56k Voice Faxmodem. The
last time I used it was several years ago with a Win 98 OS. Having
converted to Win 2000 pro, I downloaded the USB firmware flash program
for this model from the US Robotics support site.
http://www.usr.com/support/product-template.asp?prod=5605
The problem is that I'm not sure what driver to use. There's a USB
driver but I can't get a dialtone from my Sipora 2000 VOIP modem with
it. The OS recognizes the modem. Is it possible that it doesn't
recognize VOIP connections?
US Robotics tech support states the following:
"In Control Panel, double-click Modems and remove extra modem entries"
Does that also mean I should remove these options from the Advanced tab?
Microsoft H.323 TAPI Service Provider
Microsoft Multicast Conference TAPI Service Provider
NDIS Proxy TAPI Service Provider
TAPI Kernel-Mode Service Provider
Unimodem 5 Service Provider
I'm going to try using the serial cable now. If anyone has experience
with VOIP and analog modems, please contribute!
------------------------------
From: aqabbas@yahoo.com
Subject: Can Verizon Phone be Used With Bell Mobility in Canada?
Date: 10 Jun 2005 15:09:40 -0700
Can a Verizon phone be used with Bell Mobility in Canada? I know they
both use CDMA. I am specifialy interested in the Kyocera 7135.
------------------------------
From: phil <philippevannuys@gmail.com>
Subject: Access Personal Contacts, Notes, Through Text Messaging
Date: 10 Jun 2005 15:10:58 -0700
Navin Communications Inc. developed a new service which allows you to
access your Contacts, Calendar, Notes, ... through text messaging.
The service is still in BETA and can be used for free at this moment.
Try it out at www.telixo.com
Phil
------------------------------
From: mc <mc_no_spam@uga.edu>
Subject: Re: 'Phone Tapping' Modem Traffic ?
Date: Fri, 10 Jun 2005 15:38:14 -0400
Organization: Speed Factory (http://www.speedfactory.net)
<jg@earthlink.net> wrote in message
news:telecom24.260.5@telecom-digest.org:
> Hi,
> I believe my 'voice line' is being tapped [the line feeds through the
> 'opponents' switchboard].
> How difficult is it for them to 'decode' my modem [to ISP] traffic ?
> I'm guessing/hoping that my modem has to 'synchronise' with the ISP's
> in analog mode, so it's difficult for a '3rd' party to listen ?
I'm not sure about current modems. With early modem technology (1200
baud and below), eavesdropping was easy.
------------------------------
From: bonomi@host122.r-bonomi.com (Robert Bonomi)
Subject: Re: 'Phone Tapping' Modem Traffic ?
Date: Fri, 10 Jun 2005 19:40:27 -0000
Organization: Widgets, Inc.
In article <telecom24.260.5@telecom-digest.org>, <jg@earthlink.net> wrote:
> Hi,
> I believe my 'voice line' is being tapped [the line feeds through the
> 'opponents' switchboard].
> How difficult is it for them to 'decode' my modem [to ISP] traffic ?
> I'm guessing/hoping that my modem has to 'synchronise' with the ISP's
> in analog mode, so it's difficult for a '3rd' party to listen ?
> Is this right ?
> Thanks for any info.
Short answer: "it depends".
With old 'Bell 103" type modems, 'copying' the line communication was
comparatively trivial with nothing more than an off-the-shelf modem.
With 'Bell 202' type stuff, it was even simpler -- they worked that
way automatically.
Bell 212 type stuff required some _very_ minor hardware tweaking to
turn an off-the-shelf unit into a 'tap'.
Above 2400 baud, you need some "somewhat specialized" equipment.
Nothing terribly exotic, but you have to know 'where to look'.
Generally impractical to modify 'retail, off-the-shelf' modems to the
purpose.
------------------------------
From: Joseph <JoeOfSeattle@yahoo.com>
Subject: Re: Verizon's Voice Mailboxes Now Give 'Shout Out' to Verizon
Date: Fri, 10 Jun 2005 09:18:34 -0700
Reply-To: JoeOfSeattle@yahoo.com
On Thu, 9 Jun 2005 15:21:15 -0400, Monty Solomon <monty@roscom.com>
wrote:
> Starting today, Verizon voice-messaging customers in New York City and
> New England can add a feature that sends a text message to any Verizon
> Wireless short text messaging-capable phone with an alert that a new
> voice message has been left on the customer's landline phone.
> - http://finance.lycos.com/home/news/story.asp?story=49739949
> [TELECOM Digest Editor's Note: What is supposed to make that so
> exceptional? Cingular Wireless has always had an icon on the display
> screen indicating voice message waiting, and I have always had my
> phone set to make three chirps when that icon is turned on. PAT]
I had a private voicemail service that did this. Unfortunately they
went bust.
As to Pat's comment, perhaps you didn't notice that this was to notify
you on your cellphone when you have a message on your *landline*
phone. Most all cellphones get an indication of a message left in
your cellphone voicemail box either o_o or some other icon or if not
an icon some send an actual text message to your handset saying "you
have a voicemail dial 123 to retrieve" and also will have an audible
sound to alert you that you have waiting messages.
------------------------------
From: Danny Burstein <dannyb@panix.com>
Subject: Re: Cannot Cancel My AT&T Service After Moving to Vonage
Date: Fri, 10 Jun 2005 18:54:29 UTC
Organization: PANIX Public Access Internet and UNIX, NYC
In <telecom24.260.17@telecom-digest.org> johnspilker@msn.com writes:
> They are charging us a monthly fee that amounts to $8 a month with
> taxes. I did send a registered letter to AT&T legal department and got
> a simple form letter that told me to contact Qwest.
[ snip of the usuals problems ]
Once again, in most states sending off a letter to the public
service//utilities commission (and it never hurts to add the AG) gets
results for straightforward and (relatively low cost) matters like
this.
I personally did, in fact, do this with AT&T service here in
NYC. About a week after I dropped my letter in the mail box I got back
a standard form letter from the PSC in ALbany, NY, and a couple of
days later I got a "we've fixed it" note from AT&T. Which they did.
(Other people have reported to me similar effectiveness courrtesy of
web-page writeups, but I prefer paper. This gives me my own hard copy
to refer to).
Note that this was a couple of years ago prior to the latest rounds of
corporate shuffles, but the process should probably still work. Again,
that's _most_ states. Some are pretty useless.
_____________________________________________________
Knowledge may be power, but communications is the key
dannyb@panix.com
[to foil spammers, my address has been double rot-13 encoded]
------------------------------
From: Isaiah Beard <sacredpoet@sacredpoet.com>
Subject: Re: Can You Disable Text Messaging?
Date: Fri, 10 Jun 2005 16:05:51 -0400
Organization: Posted via Supernews, http://www.supernews.com
jon@earthlink.net wrote:
>> It is, but can be inhibited if need be. I have to say, SMS seems to
>> be GSM's achilles' heel. A lot of signalling functions on GSM appear
>> to be handled by thinly vieled SMS messages, stuff that would be
>> handled on a more formal level in CDMA through the paging channel.
> Are there on-line specs for GSM and/or CDMA ?
I'm sure there are. Google is your friend. :)
>> I'm willing to bet that T-Mobile is unwilling to fully disable SMS
>> on an account because in many markets, they still use it for voicemail
>> and other notifications.
> Do they send the voicemail 'digitally compressed' [eg. simulated] ?
> What is the average bits/sec which they need ?
You misunderstand. I was referring to voicemail *notification*. As
in, the voicemail icon on your phone? In CDMA, a flag is set on your
handset via the paging channel. On T-Mobile and older generation GSM
networks, the flag is not sent (though that is starting to change on
T-Mobile, slowly). Instead, you get an explicit SMS message that
reads something like "you have 1 unread voice mail message."
E-mail fudged to thwart spammers.
Transpose the c's and a's in my e-mail address to reply.
------------------------------
Date: 10 Jun 2005 21:35:05 -0000
From: John Levine <johnl@iecc.com>
Subject: Re: MCI Now Charging Extra on Payphones When Using Phone Card!
Organization: I.E.C.C., Trumansburg NY USA
> You can blame our own Federal Communications Commission for caving-in
> to payphone owners and others involved in the industry for raising
> the limit on these surcharges.
Yes. In a few areas I see payphone providers with a few grains of
sense who are pricing their calls to be competitive, e.g., 10 cpm for
a lot of international calls on VZ phones in New York. The rest are
in a suicidal circle of higher prices leading to less use leading to
yet higher prices.
> [TELECOM Digest Editor's Note: But I have to wonder what was wrong
> with the old 'Separations and Settlements' process AT&T used for
> about ninety years.
Nothing, so long as all the pay phones belonged to the ILEC and the
long distance rates were high enough to pay for a lot of manual work.
In a world where there's thousands of COCOT owners and the real cpm
for domestic calls is a penny a minute, it's a problem.
R's,
John
[TELECOM Digest Editor's Note: There was a fellow when I lived in
Chicago, who owned a bunch of COCOTS and he deliberatly priced
his _less_ than Ameritech. When Ameritech went to 30 cents per call
several years ago, he put signs on all his COCOTS saying 'this phone
still just 25 cents" and he offered long distance to anywhere for
just _one dollar_ for 3 minutes and some small amount of overtime,
I think maybe 10 seconds. He really raked in money on those phones of
his. PAT]
------------------------------
From: T. Sean Weintz <strap@hanh-ct.org>
Subject: Re: Why There Are Questions About GoDaddy
Date: Fri, 10 Jun 2005 17:41:25 -0400
Organization: Posted via Supernews, http://www.supernews.com
PAT wrote:
> [TELECOM Digest Editor's Note: Seems like an awfully convoluted way
> of running your business, IMO.
Well, professional criminals tend to have to do things in convoluted
ways if they want to avoid getting caught. This goes for all type of
criminals, from hitmen to conmen to spammers.
> So my response would be to kill the domain name of the server, chop
> off the registrar's head, and burn down the company hosting the
> server.
YES! Easy enough for the first two steps, but burning down the company
hosting the server will require a visa to get into Russia, China, or
some other country where US laws generally don't stick.
> Fair enough? As one writer here yesterday pointed out, the ISPs
> could cure a huge amount of the problem (but I would say give the
> registrars some part of the job also) if they gave a Good God Damn,
> which many of them do not, such as MCI. And don't forget, MCI uses
> their employee Vint Cerf as their front man/mouthpiece with ICANN,
> truly God's Gift to Netters everywhere.
Agreed. ISP's do NOT do anywhere NEAR enough to ensure they don't have
spammers on their networks. However in all fairness it is not always
easy for them to catch. Especially for tier one providers such as MCI.
> And the small business people who run local ISP operations who _do_
> care and _do_ attempt to check out new customers are treated like
> imbeciles, the same as your Esteemed Moderator. PAT]
Who treats local ISPs that do care like imbeciles? Did I miss something
here?
[TELECOM Digest Editor's Note: Exactly how do you define a 'tier one
provider'? What makes 'tier one' different than 'tier two' or 'tier
three' for example? Is it the amount of money a provider has to spend
on connectivity and bandwidth? If that is the case, then why don't
some of the 'tier one' providers spend at least a little money on
customer service and investigations, etc? An imbecile is anyone who
dares to suggest to the old-school netters that things _could_ and
_should_ be better regards spam/scam, and refuses to listen to the
old-school guys as they rationalize why it is impossible. To make
yourself politically incorrect around here, suggest any course of
action other than (1) more filtration, (2) faster processing speed
or (3) get out of our playground and totally quit computing to any
of the old-school guys. I dare say you will get not one but several
25-50 K-byte or larger messages explaining the error of your ways. PAT]
------------------------------
From: T. Sean Weintz <strap@hanh-ct.org>
Subject: Re: Digest New Sponsorship
Date: Fri, 10 Jun 2005 18:05:35 -0400
Organization: Posted via Supernews, http://www.supernews.com
TELECOM Digest Editor wrote:
> I am pleased to welcome a new sponsor to the TELECOM Digest as of
> today. Main Resource http://www.MainResource.com has signed on
> to serve readers here. I will let Alisa Meredith explain about
> their products:
> http://www.MainResource.com - Buy Refurbished Comdial, Executone,
> Inter-tel, Isoetec, Premier and Toshiba telecom equipment on-line
> or by phone. Also offering unused PCS Digital systems. All our
> refurbished equipment and our repairs are covered by a one-year warranty.
> Also at http://www.MyHeadsets.com - Buy GN Netcom, Inter-tel,
> Plantronics and VXI headsets; you can search by brand or type.
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> You can see Ms. Meredith's ad on our home page,
> http://telecom-digest.org in the far right hand column.
> I hope all readers will stop in to say hello and review the products
> offered at Main Resource. The shop is coincidentally located in the
> State of Maine, 74 Evergreen Drive, Portland, ME 04103.
Awsome. Very nice experience to go to a telecom website and instantly
see a picture of a phone that is identical to the one sitting next to my
monitor (an Inter-Tel 4500 executive keyset, for any who care to know).
[TELECOM Digest Editor's Note: I guess Ms. Meredith sells those things
after they are refurbished, and I suspect a lot cheaper than when they
were new. Thanks for checking out http://www.mainresource.com and
considering her when you need telecom equipment. And don't forget, for
whatever energy it takes for moving your mouse a bit and clicking
a couple times, you can also feed a dog or a cat in an animal shelter
with no other obligations at http://theanimalrescuesite.com . PAT]
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