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TELECOM Digest Fri, 6 May 2005 15:00:00 EST Volume 24 : Issue 200
Inside This Issue: Editor: Patrick A. Townson
Americans Face Stricter ID Checks (Lisa Minter)
Sprint, Intel Announce WiMAX Partnership (Telecom dailyLead from USTA)
BellSouth Gives VoIP Operators Some 911 Help (Jack Decker)
SBC Pushes Ahead With Video Despite Franchise Laws (Jack Decker)
FCC Rejects SBC Petition on New Internet Services (Jack Decker)
Nickelodeon and Verizon Wireless Launch Nick Mobile on V CAST (Solomon)
Hazardous Things, Those Cell Phones (Charles G Gray)
Google Trying to Patent News Ranking by Quality (Lisa Minter)
Re: Forward Fax to Email (LB@notmine.com)
Re: A Plan to Offshore ... Just 3 Miles Out (Gene S. Berkowitz)
Re: Here's how Vonage-Verizon E-911 Will Work (Barry Margolin)
Re: Here's how Vonage-Verizon E-911 Will Work (DevilsPGD)
Re: Here's how Vonage-Verizon E-911 Will Work (John Levine)
Re: Who Gets to See the E-mail of the Deceased? (Justin Time)
Re: Who Gets to See the E-mail of the Deceased? (Lisa Hancock)
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Date: Fri, 6 May 2005 11:50:10 -0400
From: Lisa Minter <lisa_minter2001@yahoo.com>
Subject: Americans Face Stricter ID Checks
http://www.csmonitor.com/2005/0506/p01s04-usgn.html
By: Peter Grier Staff writer of The Christian Science Monitor
(WASHINGTON)From driver's licenses, to passports, to plane tickets,
the paperwork necessary to enter and move about America may soon be
subject to more restrictive rules -- all in the name of homeland
security.
In some cases (licenses) the paperwork may be difficult to get. In
others (passports) it may have to be proffered more often. These
changes, added together, may have the biggest effect on Americans'
routines of any made for security's sake since the immediate aftermath
of Sept. 11, 2001.
Some analysts say that the changes are more oriented toward
controlling illegal immigration than fighting terrorism. Others argue
that those two efforts are inextricably linked -- and that the US has
to start somewhere, given the number of undocumented people that cross
the nation's borders every year.
"Unless we discourage people from entering the US, our border security
problem is unsolvable," says James Jay Carafano, senior fellow for
national security and homeland security at the Heritage Foundation.
The prospective change that may affect the most people is probably the
move to make it more difficult to obtain driver's licenses.
Historically, the rules and regulations surrounding driver
registration have been left to the states, which issue some 70 million
licenses a year. Today, getting one usually requires simply proof of
age, plus a few other basic forms of ID.
Under the terms of the Real ID Act, currently attached to the $81
million emergency spending plan for Iraq and Afghanistan, applicants
for driver licenses would be required to prove that they are in the
country legally. They would also have to provide a valid Social
Security number, home address, and photo identification.
The Real ID measure was attached to the supplemental spending bill
only after weeks of wrangling between House and Senate negotiators. It
could clear both chambers as early as next week.
Not that this tightening is uncontroversial. Far from it -- it has
been decried as everything from a back-door attempt to establish a
national ID card, to a method of making US roads less safe, via
forcing undocumented workers further underground.
It is much more an anti-immigrant move than an antiterrorism one,
according to Juliette Kayyem, a security expert at Harvard's John F.
Kennedy School of Government.
Some of the Sept. 11 hijackers would still have qualified for licenses
under this new rule, Ms. Kayyem points out. There are other homeland
security changes she would set as having higher priority -- such as
getting the FBI a computer system that works.
"In an ideal world, in which information flowed smoothly, I guess the
[licensing change] could have some effect," says Kayyem.
But the driver's licenses might not be the only thing that will soon
take more documents to obtain. The Transportation Security
Administration (TSA) has announced that it will require airlines to
ask for passengers' full names and birth dates when selling tickets.
Ticket-buyers won't actually be required to provide this information.
But if they don't, there will be a much better chance of their being
pulled aside for extra security checks before being allowed to board.
The change should help keep people from being confused with others who
have the same or a similar name and are on terrorist watch lists, said
TSA officials. It will also help them implement Secure Flight, a
computerized passenger screening program set to enter tests this
August.
In addition to all this, new rules proposed by the State Department
and the Department of Homeland Security would eventually require
Americans returning from nearby destinations, such as Canada, Mexico,
and the Caribbean, to proffer their passports upon reentry. Previously,
returning from these destinations did not require such documentation.
Under the rules -- which are now in a comment phase, and have yet to
be adopted -- US travelers coming from the Caribbean and Panama would
need passports beginning next January 1. A similar requirement for
return from Canada and Mexico would be phased in over subsequent
years.
Cruise lines and other modes of travel to the popular warm islands
just south of the US are particularly unhappy about this prospective
change.
In some ways, the total effect of all this tightening is beside the
point, argues Mr. Carafano of the Heritage Foundation.
Requiring ID to get a driver's license might not by itself snag the
next Mohammed Atta. But it is a step the US has to take as it moves
inevitably toward keeping greater track of who is in the country.
"Is digging a hole in the ground going to give you a home to live in?
No," says Carafano. "But you have to dig a hole to lay the foundation."
Among other changes he would recommend is establishment of a simple
method for employers to check whether potential employees have a right
to work in the US.
Kayyem of the JFK School, for her part, thinks making sure police and
fire departments across the nation can talk to each other should be a
high priority homeland security change. The method for distributing
federal homeland security dollars should also do a better job of
steering money where it's truly needed, she says.
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Date: Fri, 6 May 2005 12:31:55 EDT
From: Telecom dailyLead from USTA <usta@dailylead.com>
Subject: Sprint, Intel Announce WiMAX Partnership
Telecom dailyLead from USTA
May 6, 2005
http://www.dailylead.com/latestIssue.jsp?i=21394&l=2017006
TODAY'S HEADLINES
NEWS OF THE DAY
* Sprint, Intel announce WiMAX partnership
BUSINESS & INDUSTRY WATCH
* SBC, AT&T continue with Covad as broadband partner
* Survey: Bundle customers want a more tailored experience
* What's next for BellSouth and Qwest?
* Vonage to raise $200M
* Verizon offers TV service on Cablevision's turf
USTA SPOTLIGHT
* Order Telecommunications Billing Systems Today!
EMERGING TECHNOLOGIES
* Nickelodeon, Weather Channel go wireless
VOIP DOWNLOAD
* VoIP still faces virus, security concerns
* Covad's commercial VoIP business picks up pace
* Study: VoIP closes in fast on traditional telephony
REGULATORY & LEGISLATIVE
* FCC denies SBC's Internet services request
Follow the link below to read quick summaries of these stories and others.
http://www.dailylead.com/latestIssue.jsp?i=21394&l=2017006
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From: Jack Decker <jack-yahoogroups@withheld_on_request>
Date: Fri, 06 May 2005 07:59:26 -0400
Subject: BellSouth Gives VoIP Operators Some 911 Help
By Ben Charny
Staff Writer, CNET News.com
BellSouth is opening up its 911 routers to all Net telephony operators
and nearing a deal to give Vonage access to its emergency calling
infrastructure, the Baby Bell said Thursday.
A day earlier, a spokesman for Verizon Communications, which also owns
a significant portion of the 911 infrastructure, said it signed a pact
with Vonage for the same kind of access.
The two developments highlight rapid changes that will, starting later
this year, allow Vonage and other voice over Internet Protocol (VoIP)
providers to offer a 911 service that accompanies each emergency call
with the person's address and phone number.
Full story at:
http://news.com.com/BellSouth+gives+VoIP+operators+some+911+help/2100-7352_3-5696954.html
How to Distribute VoIP Throughout a Home:
http://michigantelephone.mi.org/distribute.html
If you live in Michigan, subscribe to the MI-Telecom group:
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/MI-Telecom/
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From: Jack Decker <jack-yahoogroups@withheld_on_request>
Date: Fri, 06 May 2005 08:11:13 -0400
Subject: SBC Pushes Ahead With Video Despite Franchise Laws
[COMMENT: Funny how SBC seems to want to have its cake and eat it too.
They argue here "that a new competitor with new technology should not
face old rules", yet in the case of VoIP they seem to have the
opposite idea, that VoIP companies should be burdened with the rules
that currently bind traditional phone companies. I happen to agree
with their argument here, that new competitors with new technology
should NOT face old rules, but wish that SBC would realize the
hypocrisy of arguing one way in one situation and advocating for the
opposite position in another similar situation, just depending on
which argument is most to their benefit.]
http://reuters.com/newsArticle.jhtml?type=technologyNews&storyID=8403855
By Justin Hyde
WASHINGTON (Reuters) - SBC Communications has charted a collision
course with local governments with its plans to launch a video
television service late this year without seeking local franchise
agreements.
SBC, the second-largest U.S. telecommunications company, plans to
offer video to 18 million homes over the next three years, using a
combination of new technology and existing telephone wires, in a plan
it calls "Project Lightspeed."
But it is running into federal and state regulations for cable
television franchises, which can govern everything from where a
company can offer service to how many public-access channels it has to
offer.
SBC is pressing its case with lawmakers and regulators, arguing that a
new competitor with new technology should not face old rules, and that
forging franchises with up to 2,000 small governments would greatly
slow its plans.
Full story at:
http://reuters.com/newsArticle.jhtml?type=technologyNews&storyID=8403855
------------------------------
From: Jack Decker <jack-yahoogroups@withheld_on_request>
Date: Fri, 06 May 2005 11:21:04 -0400
Subject: FCC Rejects SBC Petition on New Internet Services
http://www.reuters.com/newsArticle.jhtml?type=internetNews&storyID=8410141
WASHINGTON (Reuters) - The U.S. Federal Communications Commission on
Thursday denied a petition by SBC Communications Inc. that sought to
exempt new Internet-based services from traditional telephone
regulations.
The SBC petition would have shielded the company and its peers' new
Internet networks from rules that are applied to traditional telephone
networks, like providing competitors access to that infrastructure at
wholesale prices.
The FCC voted 4-0 to reject the petition on procedural grounds,
stating SBC asked the agency to withhold imposing regulations that may
or may not apply to the companies or services.
Additionally, the FCC said the company failed to define what services,
locations and companies it wanted the agency to exempt from the
traditional telephone regulations.
Despite the rejection, FCC Chairman Kevin Martin kept the door open
for possible movement down the road.
Full story at:
http://www.reuters.com/newsArticle.jhtml?type=internetNews&storyID=8410141
------------------------------
Date: Fri, 6 May 2005 01:25:30 -0400
From: Monty Solomon <monty@roscom.com>
Subject: Nickelodeon and Verizon Wireless Launch Nick Mobile on V CAST,
Bringing Kid TV Favorites to Verizon Wireless V CAST Phones
Nick Mobile on V CAST Kicks off with Nick Jr.'s Dora the Explorer,
Blue's Clues, The Backyardigans and LazyTown Music Videos
NEW YORK and BEDMINSTER, N.J., May 5 /PRNewswire/ -- Nickelodeon, the
number-one entertainment brand for kids, and Verizon Wireless, the
nation's leading wireless service provider, announce the launch of
Nick Mobile today, bringing Nickelodeon video content to Verizon
Wireless' V CAST wireless phones. Music videos from Nick Jr. favorites
Dora the Explorer, Blue's Clues, The Backyardigans and LazyTown will
be the first available content on Nick Mobile, with Nickelodeon
television programming scheduled to roll out this summer.
Eight Nick Jr. Videos, each approximately one to three minutes long,
are available at launch on Verizon Wireless' V CAST wireless broadband
multimedia service: The Backyardigans' 'A Pirate Says Arrr' and 'The
Yeti Stomp' LazyTown's 'Bing Bang Song' and 'There's Always a Way'
Blue's Clues' 'Colors' and 'The Planets Song' and Dora the Explorer's
'We Love to Sing' and 'Tenemos Amigos.' Nickelodeon plans to release
three new Nick Jr. videos each week.
- http://finance.lycos.com/home/news/story.asp?story=48919311
------------------------------
Subject: Those Hazardous Dangerous Cell Phones
From: Charles G Gray <graycg@okstate.edu>
Date: Fri, 6 May 2005 08:20:07 -0500
Pat, see the item on the attachment about Sony and dangerous chemicals
used in cell phones. This is probably a much larger threat than any
radiation from the antenna. Note that this material is copyrighted.
I am on their distribution list.
Regards,
Charles G. Gray
Senior Lecturer, Telecommunications
Oklahoma State University - Tulsa
(918)594-8433
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Subject: Telecom Headlines, Friday May 6, 2005
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Date: 06 May 2005 08:13:01 -0700
From: Lisa Minter <lisa_minter2001@yahoo.com>
Subject: Google Trying to Patent News Ranking by Quality
Another bright idea from Google ...
Google trying to patent news ranking by quality
http://story.news.yahoo.com/s/nm/20050506/wr_nm/tech_google_patent_dc
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From: LB@notmine.com
Subject: Re: Forward Fax to Email
Date: Fri, 06 May 2005 05:41:03 -0400
Organization: Optimum Online
DevilsPGD wrote:
> In message <telecom24.197.12@telecom-digest.org> LB@notmine.com wrote:
>> Jeremy wrote:
>>> I currently have a fax number that is widely used by my clients.
>>> Problem is that I get a ton of fax "spam" if you will. I am looking
>>> for the BEST solution to have these faxes forwarded to e-mail, while
>>> keeping my existing fax number since that is the one everyone knows
>>> and uses.
>> Snipped OP for brevity.
>> Uh Pat ...
>> "[TELECOM Digest Editor's Note: Why don't you consider forwarding all
>> of it, _everything_, to email, "
>> It would seem Jeremy is asking how to do just that.
>> How does one forward everything from a fax number to an email address?
> http://www.relayfax.com/ is an example of one product that will do the
> trick.
Costs $180.00
LB
------------------------------
From: Gene S. Berkowitz <first.last@comcast.net>
Subject: Re: A Plan to Offshore ... Just 3 Miles Out
Date: Fri, 6 May 2005 00:30:32 -0400
In article <telecom24.191.3@telecom-digest.org>, monty@roscom.com
says:
> By Hiawatha Bray | April 25, 2005
> Don't start with the pirate gags -- eye patches, pieces of eight,
> Johnny Depp with a cutlass. David Cook and Roger Green have heard them
> all.
> Still, it is hard to resist the analogy. Here we are, with thousands
> of American software engineers clamoring for more work, and these two
> guys have a plan to carry even more jobs offshore. Not to India this
> time, or to China. Just ... offshore. They figure three miles out in
> the Pacific should be far enough.
> Roger Green is a software entrepreneur. David Cook was once a
> supertanker skipper who spent 15 years hauling crude oil through the
> world's sea lanes. Now the two men have announced a remarkable venture
> called SeaCode, a company that plans to hire 600 superb software
> designers from every corner of the world and house them in a luxury
> cruise ship just out of reach of US immigration law -- but close
> enough to bid on multimillion-dollar US software contracts.
> It sounds goofy, but Cook and Green say that since news of their plan
> got out last week, their website's nearly been hammered flat by
> engineers around the world who are eager to sign on. Of course the
> SeaCode concept isn't nearly as popular with Americans worried about
> the loss of jobs to foreign competitors.
> http://www.boston.com/business/technology/articles/2005/04/25/a_plan_to_offshore____just_3_miles_out/
Too bad international waters are 12 miles out, and that an "exclusive
economic zone" extends out 200 miles.
Too bad that a "luxury cruise ship" can only carry fuel and provisions
for about two weeks. Supply ships aren't cheap, nor are port fees
should they decide to dock periodically (and then see how many of
those "superb" coders try to shimmy down the mooring lines). Not to
mention, but the only thing that keeps a cruise ship habitable is a
huge contingent of low-paid menial workers to cook, clean, oil,
scrape, and paint.
A sweatshop is a sweatshop, no matter where it's anchored.
Let's hope they get WiMax working, because it's a long way to stretch
a T1 line.
... and then there's that laid off, disgruntled engineer in that Zodiac
packed with explosives ...
--Gene
------------------------------
From: Barry Margolin <barmar@alum.mit.edu>
Subject: Re: Here's how Vonage-Verizon E-911 Will Work
Organization: Symantec
Date: Thu, 05 May 2005 20:56:09 -0400
In article <telecom24.198.14@telecom-digest.org>, Justin Time
<a_user2000@yahoo.com> wrote:
> While the process documented mirrors the process for traditional
> landline phones, it doesn't address what happens when the VoIP user
> takes their phone someplace else and then calls 9-1-1. Which center
> is called? The one for their home of record or the one serving the
> hotel/motel/grandma's house?
There's been a long thread this week on the NANOG (North American
Network Operators Group) mailing list regarding the technology that
would be needed to get this right.
Until that technology is developed, I'd expect it to be based on the
location that the customer provided when they registered.
Barry Margolin, barmar@alum.mit.edu
Arlington, MA
*** PLEASE post questions in newsgroups, not directly to me ***
------------------------------
From: DevilsPGD <spamsucks@crazyhat.net>
Subject: Re: Here's how Vonage-Verizon E-911 Will Work
Date: Thu, 05 May 2005 21:32:36 -0600
Organization: Disorganized
In message <telecom24.198.14@telecom-digest.org> Justin Time
<a_user2000@yahoo.com> wrote:
> While the process documented mirrors the process for traditional
> landline phones, it doesn't address what happens when the VoIP user
> takes their phone someplace else and then calls 9-1-1. Which center
> is called? The one for their home of record or the one serving the
> hotel/motel/grandma's house?
The one of record, of course.
However, if they can get a quick and easy way to update your address
(preferably with scheduled changes in advance -- So that I can enter
my travel itinerary in advance), it should smooth the whole "VoIP
adapter isn't at home today" problem.
------------------------------
Date: 5 May 2005 20:39:22 -0000
From: John Levine <johnl@iecc.com>
Subject: Re: Here's how Vonage-Verizon E-911 Will Work
Organization: I.E.C.C., Trumansburg NY USA
> While the process documented mirrors the process for traditional
> landline phones, it doesn't address what happens when the VoIP user
> takes their phone someplace else and then calls 9-1-1. Which center
> is called? The one for their home of record or the one serving the
> hotel/motel/grandma's house?
What kind of nitwit would go to all of the effort of booting up a VoIP
phone in those circumstances rather than using the POTS phone next to
the bed?
The VoIP E911 issue only really matters for people using VoIP as a
primary home phone, and it is my distinct impression that those phones
rarely move.
R's,
John
------------------------------
From: Justin Time <a_user2000@yahoo.com>
Subject: Re: Who Gets to See the E-mail of the Deceased?
Date: 6 May 2005 05:24:04 -0700
Organization: http://groups.google.com
Lisa Hancock stated:
> e-mail should be treated no differently than any other personal
> belongings and they revert to the next of kin or recipients specified
> in a will.
> This really should be a no-brainer, and the parents should not have
> had to go court to get what was rightfully theirs. "
The underlying question behind this is who owns the email. Both
private companies and governments have been at issues with their
employees over this since email became the prevalent means of
communication. Courts have ruled that if you are using equipment
provided by your employer, then the messages that are composed, reside
and travel through those systems is the property of the company or
government. Witness the FOIA or Freedom of Information Act requests
governments respond to daily.
The issue that needs to be resolved is if the ownership of the data,
residing on the company's (in this particular case - Yahoo!) belongs to
the sender or is it the property of the equipment provider?
[TELECOM Digest Editor's Note: Ignoring for a minute those situations
where the computer belongs to the company and the worker _should be_
attending to the business of his employer. In those cases I do agree
the computer's output should belong to the employer. I am thinking
now instead of those cases where one has an account with an ISP such
as Yahoo for example: If I am _renting_ the use of the computer then
the computers output should belong to me. Another example might be
I live on a farm and rent or lease a machine to plant my crops. Now
my crops grow and are harvested. Do the crops belong to you since I
rented the machinery from you to do my work? If I am employed on the
farm and work with your tools, then I suppose the crops are yours
also. But not if the machinery, etc is under my exclusive control for
some period of time. PAT]
------------------------------
From: hancock4@bbs.cpcn.com
Subject: Re: Who Gets to See the E-mail of the Deceased?
Date: 6 May 2005 06:56:52 -0700
Organization: http://groups.google.com
Lisa Hancock wrote:
> It doesn't work that well. Your personal effects automatically
> revert to your family or estate unless you explicitly give
> instructions otherwise. This is the way it always worked.
I want to add some additional information.
First, one should have a will prepared by a lawyer that includes
directives for things like personal effects, documents, any
"intellectual property" including stuff on computers. In this way
there is less chance for misunderstanding.
Second, one should have a power-of-attorney document prepared by a
lawyer designating someone you absolutely trust access to your affairs
in the event you become disabled. A lot of people have wills but not
a power-of-attorney, and with today's privacy laws, it can be
difficult for others, esp friends and distant relatives, to provide
care in a medical emergency. In some cases a spouse automatically has
this power, but it is less clear for other relatives. There is also a
Living Will document.
Third, in order to gain access to bank accounts and other privacy
guarded affairs, one needs official documentation. A lawyer can
explain a certified power of attorney (one that is officially filed)
document as well as the estate certificate that specifies someone as
the executor of an estate. Be cautioned that even with these
documents you will have to be patient with institutions. (I had to
wait 90 minutes in a bank before they accepted a power-of-attorney
document I had for someone in my care).
Lawyers do charge to prepare these documents and there are filing
fees, but IMHO it is worth it to smooth things in the future.
------------------------------
From: NOTvalid@surplus4actors.INFO
Subject: Greenzapscam.com
Date: 6 May 2005 10:33:55 -0700
PAT:
When you start getting GreenZap spam, see http://www.greenzapscam.com/
[TELECOM Digest Editor's Note: What, pray tell, is 'greenzapscam'?
Would it be any 'get rich quick' sort of scheme? PAT]
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