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TELECOM Digest Tue, 3 May 2005 00:47:00 EDT Volume 24 : Issue 194
Inside This Issue: Editor: Patrick A. Townson
9/11 Lawsuit Against Motorola Tossed Again (Lisa Minter)
A Megachurch's Leader Says Microsoft Is No Match (Lisa Minter)
Qwest Withdraws Bid After MCI Accepts Verizon Offer (Lisa Minter)
The Good God Google (Monty Solomon)
Google Eyes (Monty Solomon)
Re: Sharpton Wants U.S. FCC to Step in on Violent Radio (Steve Sobol)
Re: Spam Mentioning "242 West 36th Street" (not valid)
Re: How is Weather Channel Data Delivered to Cable Head-End (N Mclain)
Re: How is Weather Channel Data Delivered to Cable Head-End (G Wollman)
Re: Verizon Pulling Plug on Free NYC Wi-Fi (Philip R. Mann)
Re: Will Try to Connect Later? (FrazNor@gmail.com)
Re: Still Waiting for an Answer - Podcasting (Dean M.)
Re: Still Waiting for an Answer (FrazNor@gmail.com)
Re: Still Waiting for an Answer (David B. Horvath)
Re: Who Answers 911? Cell Phones and VoIP Put Responders (T L Simon)
Re: Last Laugh! What's Purchased in Omaha is Useless in Omaha (S Cline)
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Date: Mon, 2 May 2005 18:48:33 PDT
From: Lisa Minter <lisa_minter2001@yahoo.com>
Subject: 9/11 Lawsuit Against Motorola Tossed Again
BY WILLIAM MURPHY
STAFF WRITER
Relatives of a dozen city firefighters who died on Sept. 11 cannot sue
Motorola Inc. and the city for problems with department radios, a
federal appeals court panel ruled Monday.
The three-judge panel of the Second Circuit Court of Appeals ruled
unanimously that the lawsuit was barred by the decision of the
relatives to file claims with the federal Victim Compensation Fund.
In addition to damages, the relatives were hoping that the suit would
reveal evidence to support their contention that the radios were
defective.
The appeals court noted the emotion of the case, but decided it on
strictly procedural grounds.
The law creating the federal compensation fund "balanced the certainty
of no-fault recovery against the relinquishment of one's right to
bring a federal action -- created by the statute -- for injuries
arising from the disaster," the three-judge panel said.
The radios in use that day, which were the subject of the suit, were
Sabre model Motorolas that were put back into service earlier in the
year after a newer Motorola model delivered in 2000, the XTS3500, was
found to have deficiencies. That model was returned to use in 2002.
Copyright (c) 2005, Newsday, Inc.
Visit Newsday on line at http://www.newsday.com
This article originally appeared at:
http://www.nynewsday.com/news/local/manhattan/wtc/nyc-rad0503,0,2464109.story?coll=nyc-homepage-breaking2
NOTE: For more telecom/internet/networking/computer news from the
daily media, check out our feature 'Telecom Digest Extra' each day at
http://telecom-digest.org/td-extra/more-news.html . Hundreds of new
articles daily.
------------------------------
From: Lisa Minter <lisa_minter2001@yahoo.com>
Date: Mon, 02 May 2005 20:32:53 -0500
Subject: A Megachurch's Leader Says Microsoft Is No Match
By SARAH KERSHAW
Ken Hutcherson claims to be the person who forced Microsoft to
withdraw its support of a gay rights bill before the Washington State
Legislature.
http://www.nytimes.com/2005/05/02/national/02minister.html?ex=1115697600&en=86ce1da88060f83f&ei=5070
Copyright 2005 The New York Times Company
NOTE: For more telecom/internet/networking/computer news from the
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From: Lisa Minter <lisa_minter2001@yahoo.com>
Date: Mon, 02 May 2005 20:40:23 -0500
Subject: Qwest Withdraws Bid After MCI Accepts Verizon Offer
By JENNIFER BAYOT
Qwest's decision appears to end the three-month takeover battle with
Verizon for MCI.
http://www.nytimes.com/2005/05/02/business/02cnd-phone.html?ex=1115697600&en=3577f122c9a97c89&ei=5070
Copyright 2005 The New York Times Company
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Date: Mon, 2 May 2005 23:12:05 -0400
From: Monty Solomon <monty@roscom.com>
Subject: The Good God Google
By MATHIEU BALEZ
Special to Globe and Mail Update
Front Lines is a guest viewpoint section offering perspectives on
current issues and events from people working on the front lines of
Canada's technology industry. Mathieu Balez is vice-president and
co-founder of Syllogix Inc., a management science consultancy based in
Montreal.
Google Inc., Silicon Valley's latest garage-to-riches story, is
metamorphosing before our collective eyes into the single most
important company on the planet, if it hasn't claimed that title
already.
And if you haven't been following its (near) weekly parade of new
Web-based software tools, then it's time you took notice: The Internet
... nay, the entire computing experience ... nay, the fundamental way
in which we access and interact with information, is soon to become
radically different.
Whether it be under Google's benevolent technological hegemony or
within its sinister monopolistic grasp, however, remains somewhat
unclear.
http://www.globetechnology.com/servlet/story/RTGAM.20050322.gtflgooglemar22/BNStory/Technology/
------------------------------
Date: Mon, 2 May 2005 23:22:11 -0400
From: Monty Solomon <monty@roscom.com>
Subject: Google Eyes / The Company Everyone Loves Knows More About You
Google Eyes
The company everyone loves knows more about you than you might realize.
BY DAN KENNEDY
Is there a company anywhere within these United States with a better
public image than Google has? We love it. We need it. We use it --
more than 200 million times a day, by some accounts. The unofficial
slogan - "Don't Be Evil" - epitomizes everything we want in a
business relationship. And more often than not, Google lives up to
those words.
But there is another side to Google, and it's one that the company
would just as soon you not think about. It's what happens each and
every time you look up a piece of information. Maybe an old
boyfriend. A political organization you heard mentioned on television
the night before. A possible vacation spot. Perhaps you're a student
trying to track down a terrorist group's web site for a paper you're
writing. Or a church elder who likes to look at hard-core pornography.
You might be seeking information on how to grow your own marijuana.
Who knows?
Google knows. According to Lauren Weinstein, an internet activist and
privacy expert based in southern California, Google keeps track of
every search that's made, as well as the internet location of the
computer from which the search is taking place -- and then it stores
that information for possible future use. Moreover, he said, it would
not be terribly difficult to trace those searches to the person who
made them. That's you and me.
http://www.fwweekly.com/issues/2005-02-02/feature.asp
------------------------------
From: Steve Sobol <sjsobol@JustThe.net>
Subject: Re: Sharpton Wants U.S. FCC to Step in on Violent Radio
Date: Mon, 02 May 2005 16:33:37 -0700
Organization: Glorb Internet Services, http://www.glorb.com
Lisa Minter wrote:
> Al Sharpton, a community activist and one-time Democratic presidential
> candidate, on Thursday urged the government to step in to stop what he
> said was violence fomented by radio stations.
Al Sharpton is not one to be commenting on this. I recall at least one
major incidence of violence where he was eager to jump in and get some
publicity for himself. I don't think he actually cared about the
victim.
> He noted two incidents, one with Grammy winner Lil' Kim in 2001,
> involving shootings outside a New York hip hop station owned by Emmis
> Communications Corp., Hot 97 FM.
I wish I could comment, but I'd need to know something about the
specific incidents before I could say anything.
JustThe.net - Apple Valley, CA - http://JustThe.net/ - 888.480.4NET (4638)
Steven J. Sobol, Geek In Charge / sjsobol@JustThe.net / PGP: 0xE3AE35ED
"The wisdom of a fool won't set you free"
--New Order, "Bizarre Love Triangle"
------------------------------
From: NOTvalid@surplus4actors.INFO
Subject: Re: Spam Mentioning "242 W. 36th St"
Date: 2 May 2005 20:03:16 -0700
The only messages I left was telling them which payphone I was at and
for them to change their OGM to give correct address.
Tomorrow I will be in midtown Manhattan again, so I will call to let
them know that I am within walking distance of their office. As I get
closer to address they gave I may keep calling until I get correct
address.
------------------------------
Date: Mon, 02 May 2005 21:56:02 -0500
From: Neal McLain <nmclain@annsgarden.com>
Subject: Re: How is Weather Channel Data Delivered
Dan Griffin <dgriffin@webaccess.net> wrote:
> Does anyone know how "The Weather Channel" distributes the regional
> forecast information (as seen during the "local on the 8's" portion)
> to the local cable companies. Is it data in the vertical interval of
> the TV signal, or do they use internet connections (broadband,
> dial-up), or some other communication channel?
The local-weather data is distributed by satellite along with the
primary video signal. It's distributed simultaneously over several
different satellites in different formats; a list of more-or-less
current assignments is at http://www.lyngsat.com/amc10.html (scroll
down to Weather Channel).
Three typical cases:
AMC-ll transponder 13 (3960 MHz, Vertical)
http://www.lyngsat.com/amc11.html
Video is distributed as analog NTSC; audio, local-weather data, and
other metadata are encoded on subcarriers and the combined signal is
encrypted with the VideoCipher II scrambling system. At the headend,
the signal is decrypted with a VideoCipher II decoder and sent to a
so-called "Weather Star", a proprietary (and very expensive)
rack-mounted PC that decodes the local-signal data and inserts it on
cue in place of the default video (maps of various parts of the
country showing rudimentary forecasts) received from the satellite.
If the Weather Star is not used, default video passes through. This
format is now all-but-obsolete, but presumably it's still available
for the benefit of smaller CATV systems and the lodging industry, many
of whom don't use Weather Stars.
AMC-10 transponder 24 (4180 MHz, Horizontal)
http://www.lyngsat.com/amc10.html
Video, audio, local-weather data, and other metadata are multiplexed
into a single data stream which is then encrypted with the DigiCipher
scrambling system. At the headend, the signal is decrypted and sent
to a digital version of the Weather Star. This format is now used by
most CATV systems and many high-end hotels and casinos.
DirecTV 1R/2/4S unknown transponder
http://www.lyngsat.com/dtv101.html
Video, audio, and metadata, along with several other video signals and
their respective audios and metadata, are all multiplexed into a
single data stream which is then encrypted with the DirecTV's
proprietary scrambling system and modulated onto one of DirecTV's
transponders. There is no local-weather data; all DirecTV subscribers
get the default video. Echostar (Dish Network) uses a similar
proprietary scheme. Presumably, Voom did so too before it ceased
operations.
Neal McLain
------------------------------
From: wollman@khavrinen.csail.mit.edu (Garrett Wollman)
Subject: Re: How is Weather Channel Data Delivered to Cable Head-End
Date: Mon, 2 May 2005 23:43:04 UTC
Organization: MIT Computer Science & Artificial Intelligence Laboratory
In article <telecom24.193.7@telecom-digest.org>, Dan Griffin
<dgriffin@webaccess.net> wrote:
> Does anyone know how "The Weather Channel" distributes the regional
> forecast information (as seen during the "local on the 8's" portion)
> to the local cable companies. Is it data in the vertical interval of
> the TV signal, or do they use internet connections (broadband,
> dial-up), or some other communication channel?
None of the above. It's one-way IP over digital satellite (using
multicast IIRC). They have some sort of a backchannel, but I don't
remember what it was. The one box also handles all of the video
(de-)compression. (It's a PC running FreeBSD, for those to whom this
is meaningful, with specialized satellite and video hardware.)
--
Garrett A. Wollman | As the Constitution endures, persons in every
wollman@csail.mit.edu | generation can invoke its principles in their own
Opinions not those | search for greater freedom.
of MIT or CSAIL. | - A. Kennedy, Lawrence v. Texas, 539 U.S. 558 (2003)
------------------------------
From: Philip R. Mann <prmlaw@NOSPAMnyc.rr.com>
Subject: Re: Verizon Pulling Plug on Free NYC Wi-Fi
Date: Mon, 02 May 2005 19:46:32 EDT
Reply-To: Philip R. Mann <prmlaw@NOSPAMnyc.rr.com>
On Sun, 01 May 2005 22:06:59 GMT, Michael D. Sullivan wrote:
>> Anyone know what the reasoning was on this?
>> http://story.news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20050430/ap_on_hi_te/verizon_nyc_wi_fi
> It's pretty clear from the story. They are introducing EV-DO 3G data
> service on the Verizon Wireless network, and operating a free outdoor
> wi-fi network that doesn't produce any revenue isn't exactly going to
> be good for business on their new pay-to-use data network.
Two different concepts. Verizon WiFi was useable only by Verizon DSL
customers; it had nothing to do with VZW.
Also, it was available only in NYC (primarily Manhattan) AFAIK.
------------------------------
From: FrazNor@gmail.com
Subject: Re: Will Try to Connect Later?
Date: 2 May 2005 17:42:38 -0700
Organization: http://groups.google.com
A telemarketing computer could not find an available droid to talk to
you.
Fear not, the computer will call you again.
------------------------------
Date: Mon, 2 May 2005 17:15:38 PDT
From: Dean M. <cjmebox-telecomdigest@yahoo.com>
Subject: Re: Still Waiting For an Answer - Podcasting
Dear Pat. It seems it is its own thing; i.e. less an old something
disguised as a new something and more a really new something.
From wikipedia:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Podcasting
Podcasting is a way of publishing sound files to the Internet,
allowing users to subscribe to a feed and receive new audio files
automatically. Podcasting is distinct from other types of audio
content delivery because it uses the RSS protocol. This technique has
enabled many producers to create self-published, syndicated radio
shows.
Users subscribe to podcasts using "podcatching" software (also called
"aggregator" software) which periodically checks for and downloads new
content. It can then sync the content to the user's portable music
player, hence the portmanteau of Apple's "iPod" and
"broadcasting". Podcasting does not require an iPod, however; any
digital audio player or computer with the appropriate software can
play podcasts.
------------------------------
From: FrazNor@gmail.com
Subject: Re: Still Waiting for an Answer
Date: 2 May 2005 18:04:53 -0700
Organization: http://groups.google.com
It seems that podcasting is simply sticking the file into your Ipod or
.MP3 player and then 'casting it your ear.
I did this years ago with a 32mb .mp3 player.
Now it seems radio stations are officiialy going along with this by
making some of their programs avail for d/l. WNYC in NYC I tik is one.
------------------------------
Date: Mon, 02 May 2005 22:24:08 -0400
From: David B. Horvath, CCP <dhorvath@withheld_on_request>
Subject: Re: Still Waiting for an Answer
On Mon, 2 May 2005 17:12:51 EDT, ptownson@massis.lcs.mit.edu (TELECOM
Digest Editor) wrote:
> A week or so ago here, I asked a question about the distinction -- if
> any -- between 'podcasting' and audio/video 'streaming' which is a
> technique which has been on the net for a long time.
> No one has yet replied! Is 'podcasting' just a new name for an old
> technique? Is it thus named because the (rather specialized) computers
> which are used for receiving 'podcasts' do not typically do any other
> functions like 'normal' computers? Is it because 'podcasters' often
> times do not have any 'regular, over-the-air' type broadcasts to
> accompany their computerized streaming presentations?
> Can anyone answer these questions, or is 'podcasting' just much ado
> about nothing new?
PLEASE remove my email address, too much SPAM as it is.
Podcasting is the process of creating audio files that will be downloaded
into iPods and listened to at the convenience of the downloader. It isn't
much different from downloading a WAV to a Windows PC and listening to it
on a laptop during a long flight.
Actually, the big difference is the iPod is a lot smaller than a
laptop and the batteries should last longer.
For streaming, you have to have connectivity for the entire length of
the artifact (1 hour for an hour long show). With the WAV/podcast, you
only need to be connected long enough to download the file.
- David
[TELECOM Digest Editor's Note: But, if I download the entire file to
whatever system I intended to use to listen, then iPod='streaming' in
that case, doesn't it? And if I were so inclined, I could use a
search engine to go around all over the net looking for .wav files,
download them all as found to my jillion GB hard drive and play them
off as desired. Apparently, if I understand your message, podcast is
a way of doing that same thing, but 'more effeciently' and 'quicker'?
PAT]
------------------------------
From: tls@panix.com (Thor Lancelot Simon)
Subject: Re: Who Answers 911? Cell Phones and VoIP Put Responders to Test
Date: Mon, 2 May 2005 23:04:49 UTC
Organization: Public Access Networks Corp.
Reply-To: tls@rek.tjls.com
In article <telecom24.193.13@telecom-digest.org>,
<hancock4@bbs.cpcn.com> wrote:
> Jack Decker wrote:
>> Cell phones have been around a LOT longer than VoIP, yet to the best
>> of my knowledge no state attorney general has ever sued a cell phone
>> company over the way they handle 911 calls.
> But individuals have sued cellular carriers over problems reaching
> emergency aid from the cell phones.
> [TELECOM Digest Editor's Note: But the _original_ cell phone carriers
> were the telcos (and still mostly are).
Not exactly. AMPS licenses were granted to *two* carriers in every
market: one "wireline" (incumbent LEC) telephone company, and one
independent carrier. So it is only right to say that *half of* the
original cell phone carriers were the telcos.
Thor Lancelot Simon tls@rek.tjls.com
"The inconsistency is startling, though admittedly, if consistency is
to be abandoned or transcended, there is no problem." - Noam Chomsky
[TELECOM Digest Editor's Note: You are correct. The 'A' side was
the 'competitor' and the 'B' side was the wireline incumbent. Now,
let's examine those roles as they were played out in two metropolitan
areas, Chicago and St. Louis, circa 1982-85.
In Chicago, 'A' was (still is?) "Cellular One", a brand name used by
various carriers, in this instance Southwestern Bell. 'B' was
Ameritech Mobile Services, back then a division of Illinois Bell. So,
Southwestern Bell 'competed with' Illinois Bell in Chicago.
Now go to St. Louis, and the roles were switched: 'A' was the
'competitor', Ameritech Mobile; and 'B' was the established wireline
incumbent, in this instance d/b/a/ 'Southwestern Bell Mobility'.
Move a bit west in Missouri/Kansas around KCMO; lo and behold, the
incumbent on the 'B' side was United Telephone Company, a cousin to
the Bells, and on the 'A' side was "Cellular One", but this time the
Dobson outfit d/b/a.
So, at least in Chicago/St. Louis (and wherever else) it was telco
versus telco. "Cellular One" you see, at least in those days was just
a brand name used by various companies, as often as not telcos who
were _not_ allowed to market telephony under their own name in that
area. No way, in those days at least, Southwestern Bell would have
ever been allowed to 'move into or take over' the Chicago market,
which was Illinois Bell (and soon to be) Ameritech.
And telcos do not sue other telcos which is what I said all along ...
It is okay for telcos to gang up on VOIP, and VOIP to retaliate, just
as back in the 1970s AT&T and MCI were constantly threatening to (or
actually) suing one another. An organization called USITA (United
States Independent Telephone Association) started back about 1890 as
a defense thing to protect the independent telcos who were in the
same position as VOIP is now. Bell was going to kick their asses!
USITA was formed to help them defend themselves. But how times change!
In 1982 as divestiture was getting underway, guess who the honored
guest and principal speaker was at the USITA convention that year?
None other than Charles Brown, AT&T chairman. After 80-some years,
you see, they all got to be bossum buddies. Thirty years ago, it was
the same thing with MCI/Sprint versus AT&T. Now, they tolerate each
other. Now 'Independent' is an obsolete word in telecom, so for a
few years now USITA has been simply USTA (United States Telephone
Association.) We publish their newsletter here each day.
Reminds me of my two cats: Missy and Callie (the domestic long hair
and the calico.) Missy was here first and absolutely hated Callie
for a couple months; was always slapping her around and stealing
her food, and chasing Callie out of the common litter box they both
use. That's how AT&T is: they were here first; hate and despise any
newcomers. But when cell phones first started in the 1980's, it was
still telco versus telco, not fifty percent as you claim. PAT]
------------------------------
Date: Mon, 02 May 2005 20:11:51 -0400
From: Stanley Cline <sc1@roamer1.org>
Reply-To: sc1@roamer1.org
Organization: Roamer1 Communications
Subject: Re: Last Laugh! What's Purchased in Omaha is Useless in Omaha
John Mayson wrote:
> http://www.theomahachannel.com/news/4431759/detail.html
> "Some cell phones sold this week at area a Target stores won't work in
> Omaha. The mistake was discovered after a KETV NewsWatch 7 viewer
> called 7 Can Help."
Per the article, the phones in question are T-Mobile prepaid phones.
T-Mobile does have some native coverage in Omaha per the Personal
Coverage Check tool on their own web site, but for some odd reason
doesn't sell service there and has no local numbers available. (There
are some other places, largely in the Midwest, where the same holds
true -- Quincy, IL comes to mind.) A T-Mobile To Go would work just
fine in Omaha, although with somewhat limited coverage; it looks like
the coverage that's there (just like in Quincy) was built out largely
as a license-save measure and/or to keep people from other markets
from roaming on other carriers.
--
Stanley Cline // Telco Boi // sc1 at roamer1 dot org // www.roamer1.org
"it seems like all you ever buy is Abercrombie and cell phones" --a friend
[TELECOM Digest Editor's Note: Hello Stan! Been a long time since I
saw you here in the Digest. Write more often, won't you? Don't be
such a stranger! PAT]
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