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TELECOM Digest     Fri, 15 Apr 2005 16:53:00 EDT    Volume 24 : Issue 165

Inside This Issue:                             Editor: Patrick A. Townson

    Skype Adds New Services for Internet Phoning (Lisa Minter)
    Telecom Update (Canada) #477, April 15, 2005 (John Riddell)
    FCC to TV/Radio Stations: Identify 3rd Party VNRs (Danny Burstein)
    Verizon to Carry Starz Movie Channels (Telecom dailyLead from USTA)
    Re: Cell Phone Wearing Out? (ron@oakes.net)
    Re: Cell Phone Wearing Out? (GlowingBlueMist)
    Re: Why Must a Cordless Phone be Away From Electronics (Hudson Leighton)
    Re: Is RocketVoIP Deceiving Customers Regarding Unlimited (Isaiah Beard)
    Re: Getting Serious About the War on Spam (Danny Burstein)
    Re: Bell Operating Company Employees/Retirees (sbctech)

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Date: 15 Apr 2005 12:40:03 -0700
From: Lisa Minter <lisa_minter2001@yahoo.com>
Subject: Skype Adds New Services for Internet Phoning


Skype, the fast-growing Internet telephony company, launched on Friday
a voice mail and phone access service in eight countries including the
United States, stepping up competitive pressure on incumbent
operators.

Skype, whose software allows people to make free phone calls over the
Internet, said users could now get up to three phone numbers which
will allow them to be reached by phone from any ordinary handset,
fixed or mobile.

Previously Skype users could only be reached from a computer connected
to the Internet.  "This makes Skype much more ubiquitous," Skype Chief
Executive and co-founder Niklas Zennstrom told Reuters.

Skype, which launched its Internet software only 20 months ago and
never advertised it once, counts 34 million registered users -- a
little more than the population of Canada.

The company's growth is driven largely by the global migration of
consumers toward Internet-routed communications which cost
significantly less than cable, satellite and radio telephony.
Internet-based telephony was, until recently, mainly used by
corporations.

Skype said its Internet telephony software passed the mark of 100
million downloads on Friday.

The company said its new voice mail and call-in service, called
SkypeIn, would cost 10 euros ($13) for three months or 30 euros ($39)
for 12 months. Voice mail only costs 5 euros ($7) for three months and
15 euros ($19) for a year.

"The new services represent an important new source of revenue for the
company," Zennstrom said.

The Luxembourg-based business said its existing pre-pay service which
enables users to make calls from their computer to ordinary phones at
low prices around the world, already counted 1.2 million registered
users.

The company, however, declined to say how much revenue the pre-pay
service, called SkpeOut, had generated since it was launched in August
2004.

Zennstrom said he expected about half those subscribing to SkypeOut
would want to get the new SkypeIn service.

Skype said subscribers to SkypeIn would be able to get a personal
phone number in the United States, Hong Kong, Britain, France, Sweden,
Norway, Finland or Denmark.

However, in some countries such as France, an address will
be needed to obtain a phone number.

"Anyone may call the user at their SkypeIn number wherever the user
travels, providing huge cost savings compared to mobile roaming rates
and flexibility for Skype users to receive calls at home, at the
office, hotel or anywhere," the Luxemburg-based company said in a
statement.

Skype said it was seeking to roll out its new SkypeIn service in other
countries soon. The company announced in February an agreement with
Motorola to preload Skype software on Motorola handsets, boosting its
access to the wireless market.

Zennstrom said he was expecting the first Skype pre-loaded handsets --
designed by i-Mate, a small Dubai based company, to come to market as
early as this month but he did not say in what countries.

Zennstrom co-founded Kazaa, the computer peer-to-peer file-sharing
software that enabled millions to download music from the Internet for
free and caused much pain to record companies.

Skype now threatens to do the same to incumbent telecom operators.

Copyright 2005 Reuters Limited.

NOTE: For more telecom/internet/networking/computer news from the
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Subject: Telecom Update (Canada) #477, April 15, 2005
Date: Fri, 15 Apr 2005 15:17:18 -0400
From: John Riddell <jriddell@angustel.ca>


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IN THIS ISSUE:

** Ottawa Announces Telecom Review Panel
** Rogers, Bell to Launch Cellphone TV
** Two New CRTC Commissioners Named
** Businesses Urged to Begin 10-Digit Conversion
** Bell Offers Accelerated Dialup
** Aurora Cable to Launch Phone Service
** Global Telecom Spending Up 9.4%
** CRTC Okays Bell "Dry Copper" DSL Offering
** Telus-Shaw Dispute on Hold Until VoIP Decision
** Cisco Buys Server Switch Maker
** Verizon Gets 13% of MCI
** European Businesses Offered Flat-Rate IP Calling
** Nortel to Miss 1Q Reports Deadline
** RIM Lines Up Suppliers in Israel
** Telecom Coalition Launches Website
** Cogeco Revenue, Profit Rise
** Shaw Net Income Up 87%
** Wireless Industry Leaders to Address Calgary Conference

OTTAWA ANNOUNCES TELECOM REVIEW PANEL: Industry Minister
David Emerson this week confirmed the appointment of a
three-person Telecom Policy Review Panel, to report by the
end of 2005. As we reported in Telecom Update #475, the
panel members are Gerri Sinclair, former head of Microsoft's
MSN.ca; Hank Intven, former Executive Director Telecom at the
CRTC, now a partner at McCarthy Tetrault; and Andre Tremblay,
former CEO of Microcell Telecommunications.

** The panel has been asked to make recommendations that
will improve Canada's competitiveness, including the telecom
regulatory framework, access to advanced telecom services
(including high-speed connectivity), and adoption of
information and communications technology.

** The panel will receive submissions from interested
parties, hold public consultation, and commission reports on
some specific issues.

** Industry Canada says it is already addressing several
policy issues that can be fixed in the shorter term,
including telemarketing, wireless number portability, and
giving the CRTC fining authority.

www.ic.gc.ca/cmb/welcomeic.nsf/261ce500dfcd7259852564820068dc6d/85256a5d
006b972085256fe0005b8149!OpenDocument

ROGERS, BELL TO LAUNCH CELLPHONE TV: Rogers Wireless and
Bell Mobility are preparing to launch television service
over their cellular networks. Both will use MobiTV, a Java
application that has already been deployed by some U.S.
cellular carriers.

** Rogers Mobile Television will offer eight to ten channels
by the end of June for a promotional price of $9 a month plus
data charges.

** Bell says it will launch in early May with about a dozen
channels for $10 a month plus data charges.

TWO NEW CRTC COMMISSIONERS NAMED: Heritage Minister Liza
Frulla this week announced the appointment of two new CRTC
commissioners: Elizabeth Duncan, an accountant and former
cable industry executive in Nova Scotia, and Helen Ray del
Val, a former senior counsel with BC Tel. They will represent
the Atlantic and Pacific regions, respectively.

www.news.gc.ca/cfmx/CCP/view/en/index.cfm?articleid=3D137559

** Denis Carmel, CRTC Director General Communications, will
be leaving the Commission staff this spring or summer to take
a post elsewhere in the civil service. He will stay at the
CRTC until a replacement is named.

BUSINESSES URGED TO BEGIN 10-DIGIT CONVERSION: Ten-digit
local dialing will officially begin in Area Codes 519, 613,
450, 514, and 819 in June 2006, but a coalition of carriers
in the affected areas says that in most cases 10-digit dialing
works now. They are urging businesses to begin reprogramming
equipment now. See www.dial10.ca for details.

BELL OFFERS ACCELERATED DIALUP: Bell Canada now offers a
free service, Dial-Up Accelerator, that it says makes dialup
access speeds up to five times faster. The technology is from
Waterloo, Ontario-based SlipStream Data.

AURORA CABLE TO LAUNCH PHONE SERVICE: Aurora Cable Internet
plans to provide "full-service standard-feature" phone
service by July 1 in its serving area north of Toronto.
Aurora will resell PSTN local loops provided by FCI Broadband
and is also working with FCI to develop a Voice over IP
service.

GLOBAL TELECOM SPENDING UP 9.4%: Dublin-based Research and
Markets says that worldwide telecommunications revenue
totaled US$2.1 trillion in 2004, up 9.4% from 2003. The U.S.
market accounted for over one-third of global telecom
spending.

CRTC OKAYS BELL "DRY COPPER" DSL OFFERING: In Telecom Order
2005-144, the CRTC approves an amendment to Bell Canada's
Gateway Access tariff that will allow competitors to use Bell
unbundled loops to provide high-speed access to end customers
who don't subscribe to any voice service over the loop. Bell
says it has had "many requests for this capability."

www.crtc.gc.ca/archive/ENG/Orders/2005/o2005-144.htm

TELUS-SHAW DISPUTE ON HOLD UNTIL VOIP DECISION: The CRTC says
that it will deal with Telus's complaint against Shaw (that
the cableco's telephone service does not comply with its CLEC
obligations -- see Telecom Update #475) after the Commission
releases its VoIP decision, due by May 12.

CISCO BUYS SERVER SWITCH MAKER: Cisco Systems has agreed to
buy Topspin Communications, a five-year-old maker of high-
performance "server fabric switches" used in grid computing,
for US$250 million in cash and share options. When the deal
is completed, Topspin will become part of Cisco's Data
Center, Switching, and Wireless Technology Group.

VERIZON GETS 13% OF MCI: Verizon Communications has purchased
the 13.4% stake in MCI held by Mexican billionaire Carlos
Slim Helu, paying $2 more per share than it is offering other
MCI shareholders in a public takeover bid. Verizon has also
filed a registration statement confirming its plan to buy all
of the long distance carrier for US$7.6 billion.

EUROPEAN BUSINESSES OFFERED FLAT-RATE IP CALLING: Colt
Telecom Group plc has launched IP telephony service for
businesses in Austria, Belgium, France, Denmark, Germany,
Ireland, Italy, Netherlands, Portugal, Spain, Sweden,
Switzerland, and UK. It offers unlimited local, national, and
international calls within those countries for a flat rate of
24.50 euros per user, per month.

NORTEL TO MISS 1Q REPORTS DEADLINE: Nortel Networks says it
will file its first-quarter financial report by the end of
May, missing the deadline set by Canadian and U.S. security
regulators. The 2004 annual report is to be filed in April.

RIM LINES UP SUPPLIERS IN ISRAEL: Continuing its run of
BlackBerry marketing agreements, Research In Motion announced
deals April 14 with Cellcom Israel and Partner
Communications, which together have 4.7 million subscribers
in Israel.

TELECOM COALITION LAUNCHES WEBSITE: The Coalition for
Competitive Telecommunications has launched a website to
provide information on its policy initiatives and activities.

** The site provides details on the previously announced
Business Telecom Networking Dinners the Coalition will hold
in conjunction the 2005 Canadian Telecom Summit (May 30) and
the Telemanagement Live 2005 conference and trade show (October 18).

www.telecomcoalition.ca

COGECO REVENUE, PROFIT RISE: Cogeco Cable reports sales for
the three months ending February 28 of $55.3 million, 9.7%
more than a year earlier. Net income was $5.6 million, up
from $0.6 million. Cogeco added a net 12,781 Internet
customers.

** CEO Louis Audet says Cogeco's forthcoming Internet phone
service will not match Videotron's pricing ($16-$30 a month),
which he calls "needlessly low."

SHAW NET INCOME UP 87%: Shaw Communications' profit for the
three months ended February 28 was $32.1 million, an 87%
increase over the same period a year ago. Service revenue of
$550 million was up 7.1%. Shaw gained 32,539 Internet
customers, a 3% increase.

WIRELESS INDUSTRY LEADERS TO ADDRESS CALGARY CONFERENCE:
Wireless Communications 2005, to be held in Calgary May
17-18, will feature addresses by noted U.S. analyst Andrew
Seybold and executives of Virgin Mobile Canada, Vonage
Canada, Rogers Wireless, and Research In Motion. For
information: www.wirelessconnections2005.com.

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From: Danny Burstein <dannyb@panix.com>
Subject: FCC to TV/Radio Stations: Identify 3rd Party VNRs
Date: Fri, 15 Apr 2005 17:57:14 UTC
Organization: PANIX Public Access Internet and UNIX, NYC


(VNR = Video News Release)

This came to a head in the past few weeks when various folk got all
upset about the Bush associates producing video clips which tv
stations ran as "news" without identifying the source.

Despite people suddenly discovering this annoyance, VNRs have actually
been around for decades. You think that five minute clip about car
safety (prominently showing a specific car's side impact airbags ...)
was put together by your local station? Hah. I laugh at your kung fu.

Now that they were jogged, the FCC sent a reminder to stations that
they're supposed to identify the producers/distributers ...

"With this Public Notice, the Commission reminds broadcast licensees
and cable operators that air VNRs, as well as all entities and
individuals involved in the production and provision of the material
at issue here, of their respective disclosure responsibilities under
the Commission's sponsorship identification rules ...

http://hraunfoss.fcc.gov/edocs_public/attachmatch/FCC-05-84A1.txt [a]
http://hraunfoss.fcc.gov/edocs_public/attachmatch/FCC-05-84A1.doc [b]
http://hraunfoss.fcc.gov/edocs_public/attachmatch/FCC-05-84A1.pdf [c]

[a] messed up ascii
[b] Word
[c] pdf

(most FCC material is available all three ways. URLs are
identical except for the trailing extension)

_____________________________________________________
Knowledge may be power, but communications is the key
		     dannyb@panix.com 
[to foil spammers, my address has been double rot-13 encoded]

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Date: Fri, 15 Apr 2005 13:13:56 EDT
From: Telecom dailyLead from USTA <usta@dailylead.com>
Subject: Verizon to Carry Starz Movie Channels


Telecom dailyLead from USTA
April 15, 2005
http://www.dailylead.com/latestIssue.jsp?i=20835&l=2017006

		TODAY'S HEADLINES
	
NEWS OF THE DAY
* Verizon to carry Starz movie channels
BUSINESS & INDUSTRY WATCH
* P. Diddy sees gold in mobile phone music
* Comcast's Internet service experiences technical problems
USTA SPOTLIGHT 
* SUPERCOMM: TIA's and USTA's premiere event
EMERGING TECHNOLOGIES
* Sorting out the Wi-Fi shuffle
* MSOs embrace faster modem technology
VOIP DOWNLOAD
* VeriSign targets financial companies with new VoIP service
* VoIP challenges regulators
* VoIP facilitates recording phone calls
* Vonage in marketing deal to sell VoIP to college students
REGULATORY & LEGISLATIVE
* California PUC backs off VoIP appeal
* Florida Senate OKs municipal telecom networks

Follow the link below to read quick summaries of these stories and others.
http://www.dailylead.com/latestIssue.jsp?i=20835&l=2017006

Legal and Privacy information at http://www.dailylead.com/about/privacy_legal.jsp

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From: ron@oakes.net
Subject: Re: Cell Phone Wearing Out?
Date: 15 Apr 2005 11:33:41 -0700
Organization: http://groups.google.com


Choreboy wrote:

> A relative complained to Verizon that she had trouble making calls on
> a trip through Georgia.  Her phone is six years old.  The saleswoman
> gave the phone to a technician who a said the transmitter was wearing
> out and she needed to buy a new phone.  The saleswoman offered her a
> choice of second-hand phones.

One possibility is that the six-year-old phone is an analog (AMPS)
only phone.  Six years ago, 1999, CDMA was just starting to roll out
and relatively few manufacturer had phones out (Qualcomm, Sony and
towards the end of the year Motorola and Samsung, IIRC).  Right now
Verizon Wireless is in the process of reducing their analog coverage
to the minimum that they can get away with in preparation to shutting
down the analog system once they are allowed.

Therefore, it is possible that the trouble making calls was that the
area being visited had poor analog coverage, but Choreboy's relative's
home area still as good analog coverage.

If this is case the technician still made an incorrect statement;
either due to ignorance, or because of some policy that blames analog
coverage woes on the phone rather than a business decision.

If the phone is an analog only phone, upgrading it will eventually
become a necessity as the FCC is eventually going to allow the
carriers to turn analog off.

Ron Oakes

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From: GlowingBlueMist <ljm012@invalid.com>
Subject: Re: Cell Phone Wearing Out?
Date: Fri, 15 Apr 2005 13:36:21 -0500
Organization: Octanews


Choreboy <choreboyREMOVE@localnet.com> wrote in message 
news:telecom24.163.4@telecom-digest.org:

> A relative complained to Verizon that she had trouble making calls on
> a trip through Georgia.  Her phone is six years old.  The saleswoman
> gave the phone to a technician who a said the transmitter was wearing
> out and she needed to buy a new phone.  The saleswoman offered her a
> choice of second-hand phones.

> In this area the phone works as well as ever, so my relative decided
> not to replace it until she takes another long trip.

> Do cellphone transmitters normally get weak as they age?  Wouldn't
> that cause a problem in normal use?  My neighbor has two relatives who
> switched providers because both found Verizon's coverage unsatisfactory
> on trips through Georgia.  Does it sound as if Verizon is conning my
> relative?

> [TELECOM Digest Editor's Note: At first blush, I would say your
> relative got a con job. The cellphone transmitter has no idea where it
> is at; its job is just to radiate RF. If the phone works okay at your
> house, it should work as well in Georgia; I cannot imagine that Georgia
> has cellphone towers any further apart than cellphone towers are in
> your area of the country, and all that should really matter in the
> case of a 'transmitter getting weak from age' is how far it has to
> look for a tower. If it can find a tower, that should end the problem
> of 'old age'. PAT]

As the cell phone continues to work just fine in her local area I
agree totally that there most likely was nothing wrong with the phone
itself.

I would be  more inclined to suspect that either she  was out of range
of cell towers during parts of the trip or due to the age of the phone
hers  might have  an analog  style transmitter  versus a  digital one.
Quite  a few  of the  new towers  being built  only support  the newer
digital style phone  as they can support more than one  call at a time
in the same bandwidth a single analog phone call would use.

If she likes her present phone and does not want to "upgrade" she
might want to consider purchasing a TracPhone or other type of prepaid
phone for traveling.  The model I use will first try to make a digital
connection and then switch to analog if that is all that is available,
making it compatible with the older towers as well as the new ones.

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Date: Fri, 15 Apr 2005 12:54:58 -0500
From: hudsonl@skypoint.com (Hudson Leighton)
Subject: Re: Why Must a Cordless Phone be Away From Electronic Devices?
Organization: MRRP


In article <telecom24.158.9@telecom-digest.org>, GlowingBlueMist
<nobody@invalid.com> wrote:

> <curious@nospam.com> wrote in message
> news:telecom24.157.7@telecom-digest.org:

>> I just got a 900 MHz DSS cordless phone, and I had the perfect spot
>> for it, right on top of my tower computer case.  But then I noticed
>> that the manual says that the base unit must be placed away from all
>> electronic equipment, including PCs, stereos, TVs, and microwaves.
>> What is the reasoning for this?  Could the magnetic fields generated
>> by the speakers in the phone cause any problems?

> Usually the problem is nothing more than radio frequency
> interferrence.  Much like you get if you take a portable radio and get
> it too close to your computer or monitor.

> I have run into some cases where routers or even computers rebooted
> when a portable phone transmitter is placed too close to them due to
> the RFI.

I know of several server rooms that do not allow any cordless phones,
cellphones, bluetooth, etc. in the room, you can't even bring them in
if they are turned off, one room has old Ma Bell 2500 phone on very
long cords for you to use of you need to talk to tech support while
working on a machine.

-Hudson

--
http://www.skypoint.com/~hudsonl

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From: Isaiah Beard <sacredpoet@sacredpoet.com>
Subject: Re: Is RocketVoIP Deceiving Customers Regarding "Unlimited" VoIP
Date: Fri, 15 Apr 2005 15:11:28 -0400
Organization: Posted via Supernews, http://www.supernews.com


Jack Decker wrote:

> A disturbing post just appeared on BroadbandReports.com -- I have
> removed references to RocketVoIP from the Resources for Michigan
> Telephone Users web site until and unless this issue is resolved.

> "Hi all ... I have a problem with RocketVoip (www.rocketvoip.com) They
> said their service is unlimited ($24.95) and suddenly they sent me an
> email about a week ago, telling me that I'm not qualified as a
> residential user and they asked me to switch to business plan. Please
> read the attached email. ..."

> http://www.broadbandreports.com/forum/remark,13170575

FWIW, Packet8 does the same thing to it's customers:

http://www.broadbandreports.com/forum/remark,12942543

It's unfortuante that these guys are redefining the word "unlimited."

E-mail fudged to thwart spammers.
Transpose the c's and a's in my e-mail address to reply.

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From: Danny Burstein <dannyb@panix.com>
Subject: Re: Getting Serious About the War on Spam
Date: Fri, 15 Apr 2005 19:25:48 UTC
Organization: PANIX Public Access Internet and UNIX, NYC


In <telecom24.164.1@telecom-digest.org> Lisa Minter <lisa_minter2001@yahoo.com> writes:

[ lots snipped ]

> http://www.csmonitor.com/2005/0414/p02s01-usju.html

> (RALEIGH, N.C.) From the outside, it was just another middle-class
> tract house with a fountain in the front yard. Inside, it was anything
> but homey. Instead of family pictures on the mantle, computer servers
> were stacked in closets, 12 high-speed wires snaked into the house,
> and monitors were stacked on top of one another.

> From here, Jeremy Jaynes, a Raleigh businessman who rose to No. 8 on
> a list of "spam kingpins," broke the nation's toughest spam law by
> churning out more than 100,000 unsolicited e-mails a month. In fact,
> he was moving closer to 10 million a day. 

Ok, this guy contracted for high speed internet connectivity from someone 
or another.

Why did anyone else accept any packets from this organization?

Let the spammer continue to pay the local company. And let the two of
them send all the garbage they want to each other. There's no
requirement (barring a few unique circumstances) for anyone else to
answer the doorbell when they ring.

_____________________________________________________
Knowledge may be power, but communications is the key
		     dannyb@panix.com 
[to foil spammers, my address has been double rot-13 encoded]

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From: sbctech <ka2daniels@aol.com>
Subject: Re: Bell Operating Company Employees/Retirees
Date: 15 Apr 2005 11:28:13 -0700


PAT,

We would like to thank you for your support. Yes, our ranks have
suffered along with many other telecommunications brothers and
sisters.  The sbceic.com website is our effort to stay in touch and
stay informed.

We enjoy Telecom Digest, keep up the good work.

The sbceic community


[TELECOM Digest Editor's Note: You are quite welcome. I am wondering
if I should add you to our page of telecom links, where it will be
permanently noted by interested parties. In your wildest imagination,
did you ever think, 25 years ago, telecommunications would change as
much as it has? I know I didn't think so.  PAT]  

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