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TELECOM Digest Fri, 1 Apr 2005 21:30:00 EST Volume 24 : Issue 140
Inside This Issue: Editor: Patrick A. Townson
Telecom Update #475, April 1, 2005 (John Riddell)
Protecting Teens Online (Monty Solomon)
Verizon's Pitch Could Signal Local Cable War (Monty Solomon)
Exclusive: SBC Comments on the Vonage E-911 Issue (Jack Decker)
Qwest Raises Offer For MCI (Telecom dailyLead from USTA)
Microsoft Drops Teen Blaster Writer's $500,000 Fine (Lisa Minter)
Re: Blackboards vs. Whiteboards (DevilsPGD)
Re: Blackboards vs. Whiteboards (Henry)
Re: Blackboards vs. Whiteboards (Richard Kaszeta)
Re: Blackboards vs. Whiteboards (Lisa Hancock)
Re: Blackboards vs. Whiteboards (Neal McLain)
Re: GSM-900 (jason)
Re: Every Ten Days (Dave Garland)
Re: Every Ten Days (Choreboy)
Re: Sprint PCS Vision Added to Open Relay DataBase (Dave Garland)
Re: Sprint PCS Vision Added to Open Relay DataBase (jmeissen@aracnet)
Does Your Computer Look Like This? (Patrick Townson)
Last Laugh! Spammer With a Toll Free Number (Steve Shlichter)
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Subject: Telecom Update #475, April 1, 2005
Date: Fri, 1 Apr 2005 15:32:14 -0500
From: John Riddell <jriddell@angustel.ca>
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IN THIS ISSUE:
** Bell Begins IP Telephony Rollout
** Telus Says Shaw Breaks Local Phone Rules
** Telecom Review Members Selected?
** Nortel Hires New Technology Officer
** Entourage Technicians on Strike
** Satellite Carrier Distributes OneConnect VoIP
** Call-Net Wants Database Charges Slashed
** Yak Joins Peering Alliance
** Telus Wants Winback Ban Lifted
** CRTC Toughens Rules for Telco Service to Competitors
** Qwest Still Trying to Buy MCI
** Financial Results
Cygnal Technologies
SR Telecom
WaveRider
** Report -- Cablecos to Get 11% of Home Phones
** CRTC Sets New Rules for 900 and 976
** New IXPL Routes Deregulated
** One-Day Conference to Examine WiMAX
** CIRA to Hold Annual Meeting
BELL BEGINS IP TELEPHONY ROLLOUT: Following several months of
technical trials, Bell Canada's broadband IP telephone
service, Digital Voice, is now available to consumers in
Quebec City, Trois-Rivieres, and Sherbrooke. Pricing depends
on which unlimited long distance plan the customer selects:
$38 for province-wide, $40 for Canada-wide, and $45 for
Canada-U.S. There is no contract or activation fee, and the
first month is free.
** The CRTC is expected to rule this spring on whether=20
incumbent telcos must file tariffs for this type of=20
service.
TELUS SAYS SHAW BREAKS LOCAL PHONE RULES: Telus says Shaw is
not complying with its obligations as a local phone service
carrier, as set out in Decision 97-8. The telco wants the
CRTC to order Shaw to stop offering local phone service until
it can show it has met all requirements.
** Telus says Shaw deliberately launched local phone service
in Calgary before it could provide equal access to all
long distance carriers and comply with industry
arrangements for transferring customers.
www.crtc.gc.ca/PartVII/eng/2005/8622/t66_200503418.htm
TELECOM REVIEW MEMBERS SELECTED? Today's Toronto Star reports
industry speculation that the members of the panel to review
Canadian telecom policy will be: Gerri Sinclair, former head
of Microsoft's MSN.ca; Hank Intven, former Executive Director
telecom at the CRTC, now a partner at McCarthy Tetrault; and
Andre Tremblay, former CEO of Microcell Telecommunications.
(see Telecom Update #470)
NORTEL HIRES NEW TECHNOLOGY OFFICER: Gary Kunis, who was
Cisco's Chief Science Officer until 2002, has been named
Chief Technology Officer of Nortel Networks. Nortel's current
CTO, Brian McFadden, has been appointed Chief Research
Officer. Both appointments are effective Monday, April 4.
** Nortel will hold a combined 2004/2005 annual shareholders
meeting in Toronto June 29.
ENTOURAGE TECHNICIANS ON STRIKE: 1,400 technicians employed
by Entourage Technology Solutions, the company that does
residential repair and installation for Bell Canada, went on
strike March 24. An Ontario provincial mediator has invited
Bell and the Communications Energy and Paperworkers Union to
return to negotiations on April 4.
** Bell Canada recently announced plans to buy the 57% of
Entourage it doesn't own, and operate it as a wholly owned
subsidiary. (See Telecom Update #470)
SATELLITE CARRIER DISTRIBUTES ONECONNECT VoIP: RamTelecom, an
Ottawa-based satellite services provider, has begun offering
OneConnect's hosted IP telephony service across Canada, using
its LinkStar platform.
CALL-NET WANTS DATABASE CHARGES SLASHED: Call-Net says Bell Canada
charges competitors exorbitant fees to update its database when
customers request blocking of collect or bill-to-third-party
calls. The current fee was set in 2000: Call-Net argues costs have
plummeted since then, and only a 15% margin should be charged.
** Furthermore, Bell automatically charges this fee when
numbers are ported to Call-Net, even though no additional
database change is necessary. This accounts for 2/3 of the
fees Bell has charged Call-Net for the service, amounting to
"millions of dollars ... over the past six years."
www.crtc.gc.ca/PartVII/eng/2005/8622/c25_200502858.htm
YAK JOINS PEERING ALLIANCE: Yak Communications, a VoIP provider in
Canada, is among the six initial members of XConnect, a new
international VoIP peering alliance that offers IP-based
interconnection and VoIP phone number lookup services.
TELUS WANTS WINBACK BAN LIFTED: Telus has asked the CRTC to
eliminate, in Calgary and anywhere else Shaw offers phone
service, the current rules preventing ILECs from attempting
to win back local customers for 12 months after they choose a
competitor's service.
** In Telus' view, "cable entry changes everything" and the reasons
for the current rules no longer apply.
www.crtc.gc.ca/PartVII/eng/2005/8622/t66_200503393.htm
CRTC TOUGHENS RULES FOR TELCO SERVICE TO COMPETITORS: CRTC Decision
2005-20 sets 14 Quality of Service indicators that the major incumbent
telcos must meet for services they provide to competitors, such as
clearing service repair calls. If any indicator is missed, the ILEC
must pay a rebate, up to a maximum of 5% of the competitor's payments
for the period if all indicators are missed.
** The Commission says that the indicators are a minimum
acceptable level of service, and that smaller penalties
have proven to be insufficient to motivate the ILECs to
meet required standards.
www.crtc.gc.ca/archive/ENG/Decisions/2005/dt2005-20.htm
QWEST STILL TRYING TO BUY MCI: The Verizon-MCI-Qwest saga
continues. Despite repeated decisions by MCI's Board to accept a
buyout offer from Verizon, Qwest is still pitching, and MCI agreed to
meet with it again after the Denver-based telco has raised its offer
to US$8.9 billion, $1.4 billion more than Verizon's.
FINANCIAL RESULTS: The following results are for 2004:
** Cygnal Technologies reports revenues of $140 million, down
5% from 2003. EBITDA was nil, and the net loss of $0.8
million was slightly less than in 2003.
** SR Telecom had revenues of $124 million, down 3% from
2003, but fourth-quarter sales were down 40% from a year
earlier. The net loss for 2004 doubled to $86 million. The
company says it is experiencing "uncertainty associated
with...refinancing issues."
** WaveRider Communications had revenues of $9.5 million, down 27%
from 2003. The net loss of $6.3 million was up 24%.
REPORT -- CABLECOS TO GET 11% OF HOME PHONES: The latest
Convergence Consulting Group report on "The Battle for the
North American Couch Potato" predicts that Canadian cable TV
companies will capture 11% of the residential telephone
market by the end of 2007.
www.convergenceonline.com
CRTC SETS NEW RULES FOR 900 AND 976: CRTC Telecom Decision 2005-19
establishes new consumer safeguards for 1-900 and 1-976
services. Content providers must disclose all charges at the beginning
of the call, and cannot link toll-free calls to billable 900
services. Telcos must offer 900 call-blocking with no initial set-up
charge, and must waive all reasonably disputed charges for first-time
disputes.
www.crtc.gc.ca/archive/ENG/Decisions/2005/dt2005-19.htm
NEW IXPL ROUTES DEREGULATED: The CRTC has added several new
interexchange private line routes to those on which the incumbent
telcos no longer need to file tariffs, because competitors also serve
those routes.
www.crtc.gc.ca/archive/ENG/Decisions/2005/dt2005-18.htm
ONE-DAY CONFERENCE TO EXAMINE WiMAX: The Canadian Wireless
Telecommunications Association's will hold a one-day conference on
WiMAX technology in Toronto on April 13. Conference program details
are available at:
www.cwta.ca/CWTASite/english/conference/WiMAX.html
CIRA TO HOLD ANNUAL MEETING: The Canadian Internet
Registration Authority will hold its 2005 annual general
meeting in Toronto and online on April 28, 2005, noon to 3pm.
To pre-register, visit www.cira.ca/en/agm/2005/agm-registration.html.
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Date: Fri, 1 Apr 2005 10:11:04 -0500
From: Monty Solomon <monty@roscom.com>
Subject: Protecting Teens Online
Pew Internet Report
54% of parents with teenagers use internet filters - a big jump from 2000
WASHINGTON, March 16 -- More than half of American families with
teenagers use filters to limit access to potentially harmful online
content -- a 65% increase from the number of those who used filters in
2000. But big majorities of both teens and parents believe that teens
do things on the internet that their parents would not approve of.
...
http://www.pewinternet.org/PPF/r/100/press_release.asp
http://www.pewinternet.org/PPF/r/152/report_display.asp
http://www.pewinternet.org/report_display.asp?r=152
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Date: Fri, 1 Apr 2005 10:32:32 -0500
From: Monty Solomon <monty@roscom.com>
Subject: Verizon's Pitch Could Signal Local Cable War
By Steven Rosenberg, Globe Staff | March 31, 2005
Coming soon to northern Massachusetts: Cable competition between
Comcast and Verizon.
Verizon, the voice, wireless, and data telecommunications company, has
begun installing a fiber-optic network that it hopes will attract
cable television subscribers in Lynn, Lynnfield, Topsfield, Nahant,
Swampscott, and West Newbury. The network will also provide phone
service and Internet service up to 7.5 times faster than Comcast's
entry-level package.
Verizon's announcement marks the first time a company has offered to
build a separate cable television system in more than one community
north of Boston. Currently Wakefield is the only community north of
Boston where more than one cable company operates. RCN has been
competing with Comcast there for several years.
http://www.boston.com/business/technology/articles/2005/03/31/verizons_pitch_could_signal_local_cable_war/
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From: Jack Decker <jack-yahoogroups@withheld on request>
Date: Fri, 01 Apr 2005 11:28:07 -0500
Subject: Exclusive: SBC Comments on the Vonage E-911 Issue
http://blogs.zdnet.com/ip-telephony/index.php?p=328
-Posted by Russell Shaw @ 8:55 am
In a previous post today, I surmised why SBC seems to be reluctant to
work with Vonage to devise E-911 solutions.
Now, SBC has their say. Spokesperson Wes Warnock just emailed me to
clarify their position on this issue:
"First, SBC recognizes that there are no shortcuts when it comes to
public safety. That said, SBC does not own the 9-1-1 system. Public
safety agencies do.
"Vonage needs to take yes for an answer. We have 9-1-1 solutions in
place for VoIP providers today. Vonage appears more concerned about
finding ways to provide E9-1-1 on the cheap."
Full story at:
http://blogs.zdnet.com/ip-telephony/index.php?p=328
How to Distribute VoIP Throughout a Home:
http://michigantelephone.mi.org/distribute.html
If you live in Michigan, subscribe to the MI-Telecom group:
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/MI-Telecom/
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Date: Fri, 1 Apr 2005 12:19:19 EST
From: Telecom dailyLead from USTA <usta@dailylead.com>
Subject: Qwest Raises Offer For MCI
Telecom dailyLead from USTA
April 1, 2005
http://www.dailylead.com/latestIssue.jsp?i=20521&l=2017006
TODAY'S HEADLINES
NEWS OF THE DAY
* Qwest raises offer for MCI
BUSINESS & INDUSTRY WATCH
* Time Warner testing mobile phone service in Kansas City
* SBC picks Scientific Atlanta for video rollout
* Stealthy startup seeks to shake up core routing market
* Nortel taps a new CTO
* A chat with Avaya's head honcho
USTA SPOTLIGHT
* At SUPERCOMM: Register today for the IP Video Conference
EMERGING TECHNOLOGIES
* BellSouth adds end-to-end class of service to VPN
VOIP DOWNLOAD
* ISPs dialing for dollars
* New modem allows toggling between VoIP, SIP networks
* Quebec's VoIP market gets more crowded
REGULATORY & LEGISLATIVE
* T-Mobile lobbies for access to UNEs
Follow the link below to read quick summaries of these stories and others.
http://www.dailylead.com/latestIssue.jsp?i=20521&l=2017006
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Date: 01 Apr 2005 10:17:05 -0800
From: Lisa Minter <lisa_minter2001@yahoo.com>
Subject: Microsoft Drops Teen Blaster Writer's $500,000 Fine
SEATTLE (Reuters) - Jeffrey Lee Parson, the teen convicted of
infecting 48,000 computers with a variant of the destructive Blaster
worm, will not have to pay $500,000 in restitution to Microsoft Corp.
the world's largest software maker said on Wednesday.
Instead, the Minnesota teen will have to perform 225 hours of
community service in addition to a year and half in prison and an
earlier order to perform 100 hours of community service, once the
final sentence is signed by Judge Marsha Pechman of the U.S. District
Court in Seattle. He also will be placed under supervision for three
years following the sentence.
Microsoft, which released Parson from his financial obligation in a
legal agreement signed by both parties earlier this week, said it was
satisfied with the final sentence.
"Mr. Parson's additional community service will have a stronger impact
on him in serving his sentence," Tim Cranton, senior attorney at
Microsoft, said in an e-mailed statement.
Parson pleaded guilty last year to creating a variant of the worm,
which infected computers in mid-2003 and targeted computers at
Microsoft. Parson said he created his "B" or "teekids" variant of the
Blaster worm and used it to access 50 computers which he then used to
launch a broader attack on more than 48,000 computers.
Blaster and its variants are self-replicating Internet worms that bore
through a security hole in Windows, Microsoft's operating system which
is found on more than 90 percent of the world's personal computers.
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From: DevilsPGD <ihatespam@crazyhat.net>
Subject: Re: Blackboards vs. Whiteboards
Date: Thu, 31 Mar 2005 20:26:27 -0700
Organization: Disorganized
In message <telecom24.139.7@telecom-digest.org> T. Sean Weintz
<strap@hanh-ct.org> wrote:
>> Lastly, markers have that weird chemical smell.
> And teenagers can sniff them ... Happens when you give them glue,
> paint, correction fluid ... It will happen with markers.
All the more reason to switch to whiteboards. Darwin's theories cease
to function properly when you sink to the lowest common denominator.
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From: henry999@eircom.net (Henry)
Subject: Re: Blackboards vs. Whiteboards
Date: Fri, 1 Apr 2005 08:29:29 +0200
Organization: Elisa Internet customer
John Hines <jbhines@newsguy.com> wrote:
> White reflects light, so it would brighten up a room.
Also, coloured markers on a whiteboard are more visually effective than
coloured chalk on a black- or greenboard.
Cheers,
Henry
------------------------------
From: Richard Kaszeta <rich@kaszeta.org>
Subject: Re: Blackboards vrs. Whiteboards
Date: 01 Apr 2005 07:40:16 -0600
Organization: University of MN ME Dept
Chris Farrar <cfarrar1307@rogers.com> writes:
> Well, blackboards do generate chalk dust. And the way kids seem to
> have alergies to almost everything under the sun, and parents that
> will file contingency lawsuits if someone looks at their kids funny, I
> wonder if it is to head off lawsiuts that the chalk dust is causing
> Johnny's asthma to act up.
As a frequent user of both types of boards in the past (teaching
college classes), I can say that you also get dust from whiteboards,
and it's the nasty grimy powder from the dry-erase markets.
I don't like whiteboards anyways, since as a lefty they are very
difficult to use; if my hand even lightly glances over what I just
wrote, it wipes off, whereas chalk is fairly tolerant.
That, and I've never gotten woozy from a chalkboard, whereas an
afternoon spent entirely around whiteboards with uncapped markers will
give you a pretty good buzz.
Richard W Kaszeta
rich@kaszeta.org
http://www.kaszeta.org/rich
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From: hancock4@bbs.cpcn.com
Subject: Re: Blackboards vs. Whiteboards
Date: 1 Apr 2005 08:08:16 -0800
Organization: http://groups.google.com
Barry Margolin wrote:
> This web site mentions chalk dust as a common trigger of asthma
> attacks in children:
What I don't understand is that blackboards have been around for
ages but asthma seems to be growing among kids. Given that, I
wonder if chalkdust is really the cause.
Another poster complained this was off-topic. This newsgroup
tends to examine a variety of issues regarding all _communication_,
not just telecom.
BTW, I've seen electronic whiteboards that transmit the writings or
produce a hardcopy, though they don't seem to get much use.
Also, I must admit whiteboards can double as a projection screen,
instead of having a separate screen. With the decrease of price in
computer projectors and ease of products like PowerPoint (which I
personally dislike), perhaps writings will be pre-done by computer
rather than written on the fly. (There's also the older transparency
overhead projector that's been around for a long time.)
However, I have always found it easier to follow and take notes of a
traditional lecture where the teacher writes on a blackboard as he
goes along, rather than showing an entire frame all at once (and that
disappears for the next slide).
[TELECOM Digest Editor's Note: When I first reviewed this subject in
preparing the issue of the Digest a few days ago, my first thought was
that Lisa was referring to the 'whiteboard' concept which is common
in certain chat programs for computer: the screen is divided in two
parts with half given over to a whiteboard on which the chat participants
can 'doodle' or draw things for the other participants in the chat.
PAT]
------------------------------
Date: Fri, 01 Apr 2005 11:15:34 -0600
From: Neal McLain <nmclain@annsgarden.com>
Subject: Re: Blackboards vs. Whiteboards
Dale Farmer <dale@cybercom.net> wrote:
> That this has nothing to do with telecom ...
Unless it's an electronic whiteboard.
http://tinyurl.com/3u8xe
Neal McLain
[TELECOM Digest Editor's Note: Well, see my other message in this
issue on this topic. That's what I first thought Lisa was going to
discuss, given the popularity of computers in schools these days and
a teacher being able to display things at various student workstations
around the room on the computer. PAT]
------------------------------
From: Jason <cheanglong@gmail.com>
Subject: Re: GSM-900
Date: 1 Apr 2005 09:02:14 -0800
Organization: http://groups.google.com
But since we transmit in x freq, then the receiver must tune to x feq
in order to receive the signal right? Why transmit at x freq and
receive at y freq?
Or I have misunderstood. Kindly enlighthen.
Thank you,
Jason
[TELECOM Digest Editor's Note: Because both microphones and
loudspeakers basically tend to do the same thing. Have you ever
plugged a microphone in to a 'speaker jack' or a speaker into
a 'microphone jack'? They can do each other's jobs quite well,
since, after all, each of them has something inside which tends to
'vibrate' to sound waves. If you ever had a microphone too close
to a speaker, or a telephone too close to a radio (during a call
in show you were talking on) you hear a squeal, or 'feedback', the
noise caused by the sound waves you or someone is producing going
around and around. Microphones not only 'hear' the principal sound
being given to them, they also 'hear' the amplified sound of the
original sound coming back to go around again. Changing the
frequencies eliminates a lot of that problem. My explanation is
probably not the best, but I hope it gives you the idea. PAT]
------------------------------
From: Dave Garland <dave.garland@wizinfo.com>
Subject: Re: Every Ten Days
Date: Thu, 31 Mar 2005 21:00:28 -0600
Organization: Wizard Information
It was a dark and stormy night when Choreboy
<choreboyREMOVE@localnet.com> wrote:
> March 9, somebody from 877 467 3277 called. I answered on the second
> ring and they hung up. They did it again March 19 and March 29.
Large telemarketing operations sometimes use dialers that call
numbers, and when there is an answer shunt the call to an available
human telemarketer. If all the telemarketers are busy (on the phone,
on break, whatever), you get a few seconds of dead air, then it hangs
up.
This is an efficient use of the (probably minimum-wage) telemarketers,
as they don't waste time dialing, waiting while it rings, getting
answering machines, etc. The efficiency, of course, comes at the
expense of the victims like you.
------------------------------
From: Choreboy <choreboyREMOVE@localnet.com>
Subject: Re: Every Ten Days
Date: Fri, 01 Apr 2005 11:29:17 -0500
Organization: Posted via Supernews, http://www.supernews.com
Choreboy wrote:
> March 9, somebody from 877 467 3277 called. I answered on the second
> ring and they hung up. They did it again March 19 and March 29.
> A search engine turned up a coed 3,000 miles from here whose blog
> reported the same thing in November:
> " ... omg someone called me and then hung up ... here I got their
> number it's 1-877-467-3277 lol so if you wanna call and bitch at them
> do so."
> If she was annoyed that somebody didn't apologize for misdialing, it's
> hard to imagine that instead of dialing back immediately, she would
> have thought it over and asked those who saw her blog to harass the
> caller. It's easier to believe that because she has a blog, the
> company offered her a commission for anyone who called in her name.
> I suspect that people all over the country are receiving these hang-up
> so some will call back to bitch because if these calls are logged,
> their names can be sold on a list of people who, according to
> somebody's interpretation of the law, are fair game for telemarketers.
> I hesitate to call the toll-free number, but I don't want to keep
> running to answer the phone for a company that intends to hang up on
> me. What should I do?
> Choreboy
> [TELECOM Digest Editor's Note: That telephone number 1-877-467-3277
> belongs to 'Sears Home Improvement Products'. PAT]
Thank you. How did you find out?
It seems strange that they've hung up on me every time they called,
and the California blogger reported the same thing. Could dialing
that number establish a "business relationship" with the telemarketer?
Would it be safer to complain by some other channel?
[TELECOM Digest Editor's Note: The way I found out was by using a
phone line *not associated with myself* letting it ring until a woman
answered (I did it twice to make sure that 877-467-3277 was answered
'Sears Home Improvement Products' both times) then I chose to belch in
a rather noisy, obscene manner each time before disconnecting.
Considering the dump I live in, which is likely as not to blow down or
away in a Kansas tornado sometime, I did not see where Home
Improvements could be of any use, at least not if _I_ had to pay for
them, which is what, I suspect, the woman at 877-467-3277 had in mind
for me. PAT]
------------------------------
From: Dave Garland <dave.garland@wizinfo.com>
Subject: Re: Sprint PCS Vision Added to Open Relay DataBase
Date: Thu, 31 Mar 2005 21:05:46 -0600
Organization: Wizard Information
It was a dark and stormy night when Eric Friedebach
<friedebach@yahoo.com> wrote:
> It seems that Sprint has been added to the Open Relay DataBase...
> Has anyone here had this happen to their ISP? How long did it take to
> get it resolved?
Every now and again, one of my ISP's mail servers will find its way
onto a RBL (realtime blackhole list) such as that. Usually they get
it resolved in a couple of hours. But my ISP is pretty proactive
about stomping on spammers and people with open relays. Maybe if the
RBL proprietors thought they were lax, it might take a bit longer to
get off. (And every RBL has its own criteria, one or two have
reputations of being very slow to unlist.)
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From: jmeissen@aracnet.com
Subject: Re: Sprint PCS Vision Added to Open Relay DataBase
Date: 1 Apr 2005 16:22:38 GMT
Organization: http://extra.newsguy.com
In article <telecom24.138.7@telecom-digest.org>,
Eric Friedebach <friedebach@yahoo.com> wrote:
> It seems that Sprint has been added to the Open Relay DataBase
> <www.ordb.org> by mistake somehow. Sprint has no idea how this
> happened, and they can't tell me when this will be resolved.
Riiiigghht. From the ORDB web pages, "stores IP-addresses of verified
open SMTP relays." The verification is done by a series of automated
tests. They also attempt to notify the postmaster at the listed site
when they become listed, and removal is as easy as requesting to be
retested.
Frankly, I wouldn't believe anything a Sprint customer service rep
tells me. It's their job to make you believe that any problem with
service is not theirs.
John Meissen jmeissen@aracnet.com
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From: Patrick Townson <ptownson@cableone.net>
Subject: Does Your Computer Look Like This?
Date: Fri, 1 Apr 2005 18:02:41 -0600
In 1954, the well-known Popular Electronics Magazine in connection
with the Rand Corporation put together an artist's conception of what
computers would look like in fifty years, in 2004. Look at it here.
http://www.mountainwings.com/past/5082.htm
This is _not_ an April Fool's joke.
PAT
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From: shlichter1@aol.com <shlichter1@aol.com>
Subject: Spammer With a Toll Free Number
Date: 1 Apr 2005 16:38:12 -0800
Organization: http://groups.google.com
Sounds like they want my credit card of SS number to ripe me off. From
the ringback tone it appears to be an off shore system.
Everyone call and see about claiming your prizes.
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(c) 2005 I Kill Spammers, Inc. A Rot in Hell Company.
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I actually have some decent news in regards to the $500 shopping spree
and Global Travel or Chevrolet / Lexus contest. I have an address,
claim number, and further details for you. Since all prizes are well
over $500, I will need a few moments of your time to cover all related
lottery-type information from procuring your prizes due to any tax
issues on them.
Sincere congratulations!
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Sender:
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